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  • Randomcamper
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    edited November 2016 #242

    Sorry, the last few posts have lost me.....

    The club don't really seem to have a site that close to Shrewsbury but taking a pitch at Lady Margarets in Chirk, not too far away, for tonight for two adults & a dog (not a serviced pitch but I am sure tonight you would get a HS) ---- £17.

    Morris Leisure - 10.60+ 7.80x2 + 3 (for a HS service pitch) +1.50 for dog = £30.70.

    Always difficult to make a direct comparison and it obviously depends whether you actually want to visit Chirk or Shrewsbury....

    But the Club appears too cheap to me ......Wink

    Edit - I notice there is a bit of a discount for club members, but still dearer than a club site- Is that the point being made...?

  • SteveL
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    edited November 2016 #243

    this no doubt true but its the actual difference in price in peak that is also interesting. Wile club sites are at most about £30 per night in peak, non club sites can be as high as £40+ per night. Non club sites subsidise non peak by very high prices in peak.

    Although to be even handed I have to point out that CC sites can be very expensive if there are four adults. Quite a few commercials charge for the pitch and up to 6 people. Chatsworth for instance would be 53.60 in peak £58.50 for a service pitch. However, CC sites will normally work out better value for a family of 4 with children, although Chatsworth is still fairly pricey at £44.40 and £49.30. Prices are for 2017.

  • compass362
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    edited November 2016 #244

    Pricing.....the bottom line  , it's the price people are prepared to pay for an item / service  , that in their opinion is value for the money being asked.

    CC prices are no different from any other price ,  if you are prepared to pay for a certain site , on a certain date for a number of days , that's your choice.

    If that's not acceptable to you , your lifestyle or your wallet the choice is a really simple one .

    So let's cut the waffle & just get on with booking the holidays we want & not be bothered by members that think differently or think they always know better

  • huskydog
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    edited November 2016 #245

    Right then ,iv'e just compaired the CC site at Crossways and the C&CC site at Morton (the other side of the railway line)

    Crossways 7 nights from the 2nd Sep 2017, 2 adults £165.20

    Morton 7 nights from 2nd Sep 2017, 2 adults £210.00

    Now the CC may be cheaper, but in my opinon the C&CC site is better,so you have to choose site over cost , i know which i would choose...................

  • Tambo2
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    edited November 2016 #246

    New to club, don't understand booking rules. Do we have to book for next year in December, or is this for popular sites.

  • MichaelT
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    edited November 2016 #247

    New to club, don't understand booking rules. Do we have to book for next year in December, or is this for popular sites.

    Write your comments here...yes you are best to book every weekend for 2017 when the booking opens in december plus any whole weeks you want to avoid dissapointment.  If you do not need them due to poor weather or inclination its fine you can just cancel within 72 hours with no penalty.  Thats what we do anyway....

    No really if you have specific needs at aspecific sites particualrly popular ones like York or Bristol then book them as soona s you can otherwise thre is normally availability somewhere even if its not your first choice.

  • peedee
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    edited November 2016 #248

     

    this no doubt true but its the actual difference in price in peak that is also interesting. Wile club sites are at most about £30 per night in peak, non club sites can be as high as £40+ per night. Non club sites subsidise non peak by very high prices in peak.

    Have you actually checked CS, you could be in for a surprise. Which Morris Leaisure would you like to compare with a similar Club site?

    peedee

  • compass362
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    edited November 2016 #249

    New to club, don't understand booking rules. Do we have to book for next year in December, or is this for popular sites.

    Write your comments here...On December 7 booking are open for 2017 , my advice would be to book everything for the year , full weeks , long weekends , weekends & odd days it's all completely above board , just be aware some sites fill up really quickly .........best
    of luck

  • moulesy
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    edited November 2016 #250

     

    this no doubt true but its the actual difference in price in peak that is also interesting. Wile club sites are at most about £30 per night in peak, non club sites can be as high as £40+ per night. Non club sites subsidise non peak by very high prices in
    peak.

    Have you actually checked CS, you could be in for a surprise. Which Morris Leaisure would you like to compare with a similar Club site?

    peedee

    Whilst I accept that individual examples prove nothing, I've just look at Morris Leisue (Llanberis) for a short stay - 4 nights - arriving 18 June. It comes up as £153.60 for 2 adults, 2 dogs, porch awning, HS and EHU. For the same stay Coed - y - Llwyn
    is £84. (I haven't checked high season because we wouldn't be going then!Wink. Use left and right arrows to navigate.
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  • peedee
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    edited November 2016 #251

    Tintent, Yes Lady Margaret does work out cheaper even if you apply the Club discount to Morris Leisure prices but it depends which Club sites you are comparing it with. In all the case I have looked at, Morris Leisure's low seaon price is more expensive than a Club site, which is perhaps why they are currently offering 3 nights for the price of two. This brings the price down to just a pound more per night than Lady Margaret. In many cases Morris Leisure is cheaper or on a par with a Club site in peak season which surprised me.

    One big plus for ML sites is their landscaping, its far better than the Clubs.

    peedee

  • Fisherman
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    edited November 2016 #252

    Having been to their llanberis site-it is miles better than Lady Margaret. We only staid one nght last week. Unkempt pitched, very tired block/Shower pressure virtually nil. Tut/tutting from warden for not booking. 17vans in total;midweek!!

  • Fisherman
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    edited November 2016 #253

    Just in case-one night al LadyMargaret-We foung a better alternative in the Ceiriog Valley/

  • Fisherman
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    edited November 2016 #254

    Morris leisure often make 3 fo2 offer off peak. Thats when we usethem.Wont go into Haven offers but sufficient to  say when weh ave exhausted offe rs we look for reasonable CL

  • Randomcamper
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    edited November 2016 #255

    Thanks Peedee & Fisherman.. I wont actually be going to Lady Margarets as we live quite close and take the dog a walk along the canal there some weekends.....it's a nice area....

    It's interesting about Morris Leisure at Shrewsbury.....we've not yet stayed there but were only talking about it the other evening, it gets good reviews & is apparently handy for the park & ride so we will definitely try it one day soon. It seems that it
    is not cheaper then than a club site in the examples quoted, and the pricing structure is obviously more complicated than the club's, hardly the damning indictment of club prices some would have you believe....??

  • Fisherman
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    edited November 2016 #256

    Returning to Dunnet Bay pricing   Is this why so any M/H wild camp in Northern Scotland. I can get a days fishing at Loch Watten (Superb) and free O/n camping fpr £5,just by asking. Many other placesI stay at. 

  • tigerfish
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    edited November 2016 #257

    Crikey!  Just been looking back through the various Posts!

    In the past 24 hours there have been 10 pages on this subject so at 10 posts per page, - 100 posts in 24 Hours! So much for an unimportant subject according to some!

    Ah well, 

    TF

  • peedee
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    edited November 2016 #258

    the pricing structure is obviously more complicated than the club's, hardly the damning indictment of club prices some would have you believe....??

    Far from it Tintent. Morris Leisure's pricing sturcture is much simpler. All their sites are the same price and they only have two bands, high and low season. The price of children is fixed at £2.50 whatever the time of year. They do charge for awnings and dogs  but again the price does not vary with season.

    peedee

  • N1805
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    edited November 2016 #259

    New to club, don't understand booking rules. Do we have to book for next year in December, or is this for popular sites.

    I understand there are timed slots for the 1st day the bookings go live. Head office staff will be able to give you correct info by phone/email if you can't find the info on club together. I know I've seen it somewhere on club together or in the magazine
    but don't remember where.

  • Randomcamper
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    edited November 2016 #260

    the pricing structure is obviously more complicated than the club's, hardly the damning indictment of club prices some would have you believe....??

    Far from it Tintent. Morris Leisure's pricing sturcture is much simpler. All their sites are the same price and they only have two bands, high and low season. The price of children is fixed at £2.50 whatever the time of year.
    They do charge for awnings and dogs  but again the price does not vary with season.

    peedee

    Write your comments here... And trailers (which I tow behind my motorhome) and day visitors. And a 3 for 2 pricing structure, what if I want to go for 1,2,4, 5 nights etc..? I'm sorry but you have failed to convince me.

    Dont get me wrong, I dont want to pay a penny more than I have to for my hobby, but as yet absolutely no convincing evidence that CC sites are overpriced relative to commercial sites...

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2016 #261

    During the first hour when booking opens you seem to be timed out after each booking and then queue to get back on line. A good idea to my mind. It took me about 50 mins last year to book around 18 sites. The rest were AS sites. I did cancel one of my bookings
    this year as we were stopping off on the CC site towards Carlisle on our way to Scotland. In the event we decided to call in on an old friend who has a place further North but also one close to Dumfries and another friend was staying with her. We stayed at
    Penpont Floors. Not a site I could recommend but for us it was ideak as only a few miles from friend's house and we were out from 10am until around 11pm each day. 

    I book all my sites early even though I don't need to. Simply because, for me it is more convenient and also I want particular sites and never know if a local event will make a site popular at any time. We stayed at Culloden im May and that was full due
    to a cycling event.

  • IanH
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    edited November 2016 #262

    Well, some interesting posts since I last looked in......and also, of course, some very predictable posts from the ostriches.

    The usual comments that sites just across the Channel cannot possibly be compared with their direct equivalent in the UK (typically from those who are a little too too timid to make the short crossing) and, of course, the usual comments from those who would
    see no wrong if the CC doubled its prices.

    As I've said before, this unbounded support for everything CC will do nothing except encourage them to keep up their current practice of year on year increases of 5% plus. So basically......these huge increases are your fault, I'm afraid.

    The paradox in all this is that those unswerving fans of everything CC will be the reason that the CC has to give up their sites within the next 5 -10 years.

    Whilst there is a possibility that this will change them from their current 'minimal status' there is of course the danger that you are helping to remove any price competition (albeit limited, in the CC's case) for caravan sites.

    Think on that!

     

  • fur ball
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    edited November 2016 #263

    After 27 pages it's clear that if you search hard enough you can find examples of cheaper and more expensive site fees in comparison. I didn't use the cc as much last year and it will probably be the same this year.  Some of that is because the other clubs
    year round  booking system and some is because we as a family were out priced on a site we would have usually spent 6-8weekends at. The site won't miss us its full nearly all the time. It's a choice we have made due to the increases last year but that's not
    to say it's not value for money just not value to us. I think the cc could be fairer to families by perhaps having a maximum nightly fee, after all a caravans fridge, lighting, TV etc cost the same whether there's one in the van or six so maybe when a family
    got to say thirty five pounds it doesn't increase anymore. Overall I think it is good value, but like anything you need to consider the facts and shop around, everybody has a different standard and a price they put on that. 

  • Wildwood
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    edited November 2016 #264

    the pricing structure is obviously more complicated than the club's, hardly the damning indictment of club prices some would have you believe....??

    Far from it Tintent. Morris Leisure's pricing sturcture is much simpler. All their sites are the same price and they only have two bands, high and low season. The price of children is fixed at £2.50 whatever the time of year.
    They do charge for awnings and dogs  but again the price does not vary with season.

    peedee

    Write your comments here... And trailers (which I tow behind my motorhome) and day visitors. And a 3 for 2 pricing structure, what if I want to go for 1,2,4, 5 nights etc..? I'm sorry but you have failed to convince me.

    Dont get me wrong, I dont want to pay a penny more than I have to for my hobby, but as yet absolutely no convincing evidence that CC sites are overpriced relative to commercial sites...

    Practical Caravan do cover sites in regions with prices and generally the clubs pricing seems to be just above average. There are usually some real bargains and some expensive but generally the club are somewhere in the mix and neither top or bottom.

  • compass362
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    edited November 2016 #265

    Well, some interesting posts since I last looked in......and also, of course, some very predictable posts from the ostriches.

    The usual comments that sites just across the Channel cannot possibly be compared with their direct equivalent in the UK (typically from those who are a little too too timid to make the short crossing) and, of course, the usual comments from those who would see no wrong if the CC doubled its prices.

    As I've said before, this unbounded support for everything CC will do nothing except encourage them to keep up their current practice of year on year increases of 5% plus. So basically......these huge increases are your fault, I'm afraid.

    The paradox in all this is that those unswerving fans of everything CC will be the reason that the CC has to give up their sites within the next 5 -10 years.

    Whilst there is a possibility that this will change them from their current 'minimal status' there is of course the danger that you are helping to remove any price competition (albeit limited, in the CC's case) for caravan sites.

    Think on that!

     

    Write your comments here...This is just a load of tosh & really quite predictable from people who think they know what's best for everyone.........think on that , do you really think any of your pathetic moaning is going change members minds about what price they are willing to pay for their holidays......jog on

  • moulesy
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    edited November 2016 #266

    I see no incentive for the club to change its pricing policies whilst its harshest critics (on here, anyway) continue to pay up and use them anyway! So whose fault are these perceived 5% price increases really?

    Undecided. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2016 #267

    I see no incentive for the club to change its pricing policies whilst its harshest critics (on here, anyway) continue to pay up and use them anyway! So whose fault are these perceived 5% price increases really?

    Undecided. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2016 #268

    Well, some interesting posts since I last looked in......and also, of course, some very predictable posts from the ostriches.

    The usual comments that sites just across the Channel cannot possibly be compared with their direct equivalent in the UK (typically from those who are a little too too timid to make the short crossing) and, of course, the usual comments from those who would
    see no wrong if the CC doubled its prices.

    As I've said before, this unbounded support for everything CC will do nothing except encourage them to keep up their current practice of year on year increases of 5% plus. So basically......these huge increases are your fault, I'm afraid.

    The paradox in all this is that those unswerving fans of everything CC will be the reason that the CC has to give up their sites within the next 5 -10 years.

    Whilst there is a possibility that this will change them from their current 'minimal status' there is of course the danger that you are helping to remove any price competition (albeit limited, in the CC's case) for caravan sites.

    Think on that!

     

    Write your comments here...This is just a load of tosh & really quite predictable from people who think they know what's best for everyone.........think on that , do you really think any of your pathetic moaning is going change members minds about what
    price they are willing to pay for their holidays......jog on

    +1 

  • peedee
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    edited November 2016 #269

    Far from it Tintent. Morris Leisure's pricing sturcture is much simpler. All their sites are the same price and they only have two bands, high and low season. The price of children is fixed at £2.50 whatever the time of year.
    They do charge for awnings and dogs  but again the price does not vary with season.

    peedee

    Write your comments here... And trailers (which I tow behind my motorhome) and day visitors. And a 3 for 2 pricing structure, what if I want to go for 1,2,4, 5 nights etc..? I'm sorry but you have failed to convince me.

    Dont get me wrong, I dont want to pay a penny more than I have to for my hobby, but as yet absolutely no convincing evidence that CC sites are overpriced relative to commercial sites...

    Ok Tintent I acknowledge you have different requirements, so do those with children. The price of extras can make a difference to the price paid and those without children, trailers, extra cars, dogs and no awning will obviously find sites which charge for
    these cheaper.  The fact you remain unconvinced that commercial sites can be cheaper than a Club site is of no consequence to me. At least by presenting some facts, we get away from the wild unfounded points of view and a sensible debate can be had.

    I think Furball summed it up nicely in his post when he said,

    After 27 pages it's clear that if you search hard enough you can find examples of cheaper and more expensive site fees in comparison.


    I’ll add to this, it can also depend on ones personal circumstances and making sure there is a like for like comparison. At the end of the day it is down to individual choice.

    peedee

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  • madhouse4
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    edited November 2016 #271

    To be fair my original post was questioning what the prices would be, as some sitess for next year are already getting booked up, I don't mind waiting till the 7th to book, but it's nice to have an idea how CC and private sites compare so we can make an
    informed decision, now the prices have been released we can make a decision, With 2 children I like to make the money stretch as far as possible!