Pitching on club sites

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  • rayjsj
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    edited October 2016 #92

    At least on Club sites there ARE rules, on many during peak season (especially in France and Spain) many pitches are virtually adjacent, and Aires can be even worse. Not all I admit but many.  I find the Clubs rules reassuring. If a little hazy in some areas,
    and downright stupid in others (no washing of caravans or cars on site, no mops or j cloths in toilet blocks).

    Perhaps reviving some of the old rules, like everyone having a full fire bucket nr the drawbar of the caravan. Might help ?

  • Tammygirl
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    edited October 2016 #93

    Funny you should mention sites in Spain and France (where IanH) has just returned from, how I wonder does he get on there where  as you say it can be a couple of feet between outfits sometimes just a hedge (cause they don't burn do they)

    I think CC sites do a reasonably good job in keeping spaces between outfits, if you see something that YOU think breeches the rules then all you have to do is mention it to the warden, who will I'm sure take a look and deal with it (if needed) 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2016 #94

    Yellowcraig has pitches where you can pitch sideways on to the peg! Marvellous site Yellowcraig, parts of it, the grass pitches are just like Club Sites used to be, and they have provided some hard standing bits as well for those who like straight lines
    and little pegs! Everyone coped while we were there, something to suit everyone!Happy

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #95

    Alan, i think Ian means that folk dont sleep in the car....?

    I know but chose to ignore that as not part of the rules. 

    It would be better if there was 6m rather than3m between all adjoining outfits but that isn't about to happen

  • Kennine
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    edited October 2016 #96

    If customers are using awnings for sleeping and cooking. Would it not be more safe to have at least a 6 mtr gap between that awning and the neighbouring van.??

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #97

    If customers are using awnings for sleeping and cooking. Would it not be more safe to have at least a 6 mtr gap between that awning and the neighbouring van.??

    Whether awning is used for cooking or sleeping or not a 6m seperation would be preferable IMO. However that is unlikely to happen

  • moulesy
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    edited October 2016 #98

    6m separation would undoubtedly be preferable but hardly practical, I suppose given that it would involve a reduction in pitch availablility and subsequent increase in price.

    But is there a need? How do sites like Perran Sands in Cornwall get away with packing them in like sardines? And what about continental sites such as the one we saw a few years back at Lake Garda where without too much effort you could easily open the window and shake hands with your neighbour (or even give them a goodnight kiss?!!) Undecided. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #99

    6m separation would undoubtedly be preferable but hardly practical, I suppose given that it would involve a reduction in pitch availablility and subsequent increase in price.

     And what about continental sites such as the one we saw a few years back at Lake Garda where without too much effort you could easily open the window and shake hands with your neighbour (or even give them a goodnight kiss?!!)

    Undecided. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

    I like to be friendly but not quite that friendly!

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  • IanH
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    edited October 2016 #101

    BB - Yes, I assume the reason that cars are not included in the 6 metre rule is because people don't live or sleep in them.

    People do live, sleep, cook, store gas etc in awnings and that's why they need to be 6 metres apart.

    Logical.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #102

    But of course they aren't 6m apart

  • IanH
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    edited October 2016 #103

    But they are if pitched correctly.......something that's likely to be more energetically enforced, in view of the (at least) two caravan fires on Club sites this year.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #104

    The awning nay be 6m from the adjacent caravan but not from the adjacent parked car Ian. Sorry if I misunderstood

     

    Alan

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2016 #105

    OMG!!! While walking the mutt passed Burrs this afternoon, I could see an outfit parked awning/caravan nose in/ car and the next pitch was space/caravan reversed to peg /car!!!

    Must write to head office!!! Innocent

  • Tammygirl
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    edited October 2016 #106

    OMG!!! While walking the mutt passed Burrs this afternoon, I could see an outfit parked awning/caravan nose in/ car and the next pitch was space/caravan reversed to peg /car!!!

    Must write to head office!!! Innocent

    ... Must have been a rebel Wink

  • rayjsj
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    edited October 2016 #107

    But they are if pitched correctly.......something that's likely to be more energetically enforced, in view of the (at least) two caravan fires on Club sites this year.

    Write your comments here...I think that the existing rules prevented any spread of the fires, they are working fine, Car/Caravan/ awning  or  Awning/Caravan/Car  both work and are allowed under the rules.  As is a motorhome nose in,  

  • IanH
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    edited October 2016 #108

    But they are if pitched correctly.......something that's likely to be more energetically enforced, in view of the (at least) two caravan fires on Club sites this year.

    Write your comments here...I think that the existing rules prevented any spread of the fires, they are working fine, Car/Caravan/ awning  or  Awning/Caravan/Car  both work and are allowed under the rules.  As is a motorhome nose in,  

    Which rule or pitching diagram are you referring to? I haven't seen any diagram in the Club handbook, the Club website or the one handed to you by the warden on arrival, that shows awning / caravan / car.

  • Wildwood
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    edited October 2016 #109

    But they are if pitched correctly.......something that's likely to be more energetically enforced, in view of the (at least) two caravan fires on Club sites this year.

    Write your comments here...I think that the existing rules prevented any spread of the fires, they are working fine, Car/Caravan/ awning  or  Awning/Caravan/Car  both work and are allowed under the rules.  As is a motorhome nose in,  

    Which rule or pitching diagram are you referring to? I haven't seen any diagram in the Club handbook, the Club website or the one handed to you by the warden on arrival, that shows awning / caravan / car.

    There used to be s diwgram but not sure when it was abandonded. The models in the reception seem to be the current format.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #110

    But they are if pitched correctly.......something that's likely to be more energetically enforced, in view of the (at least) two caravan fires on Club sites this year.

    Write your comments here...I think that the existing rules prevented any spread of the fires, they are working fine, Car/Caravan/ awning  or  Awning/Caravan/Car  both work and are allowed under the rules.  As is a motorhome nose in,  

    Which rule or pitching diagram are you referring to? I haven't seen any diagram in the Club handbook, the Club website or the one handed to you by the warden on arrival, that shows awning / caravan / car.

    Ask the Club

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2016 #111

    I think someone (was it Nav) decribed it quite well some time ago. About the fire loading betwwenq car and awning.(fire loading is a measurement used by fire-fighters and other firesafety professionals to determine the potential severity of a fire in a given space. It describes the amount of combustible material  and the amount of heat this can generate) An awning is made of flame retartdent material and has a low fire loading. It could easily be put out. Cars has a far far higher fire loading. All that petrol, paint, plastic... A car is far more danagerous than an awning. Which ever way you pitch, car van awning, or awning van car, you will have at least 3m between car and awning or awning and awning. Why a 3m gap between car and awning is considered OK when a car is far more dangerous, but not a 3m gap between awnings?  

  • IanH
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    edited October 2016 #112

    But they are if pitched correctly.......something that's likely to be more energetically enforced, in view of the (at least) two caravan fires on Club sites this year.

    Write your comments here...I think that the existing rules prevented any spread of the fires, they are working fine, Car/Caravan/ awning  or  Awning/Caravan/Car  both work and are allowed under the rules.  As is a motorhome nose in,  

    Which rule or pitching diagram are you referring to? I haven't seen any diagram in the Club handbook, the Club website or the one handed to you by the warden on arrival, that shows awning / caravan / car.

    Ask the Club

    No need to......the directions from the CC and the wardens on arrival are clear.......car / caravan / awning.

  • Wildwood
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    edited October 2016 #113

    I think someone (was it Nav) decribed it quite well some time ago. About the fire loading betwwenq car and awning.(fire loading is a measurement used by fire-fighters and other firesafety professionals to determine the
    potential severity of a fire in a given space. It describes the amount of combustible material  and the amount of heat this can generate) An awning is made of flame retartdent material and has
    a low fire loading. It could easily be put out. Cars has a far far higher fire loading. All that petrol, paint, plastic... A car is far more danagerous than an awning. Which ever way you pitch, car van awning, or awning van car, you will have at least 3m between
    car and awning or awning and awning. Why a 3m gap between car and awning is considered OK when a car is far more dangerous, but not a 3m gap between awnings?  

    Some people have enough problem understanding the current rules. If you complicate them further you will have chaos.