Pitching on club sites

carmscampers
carmscampers Forum Participant Posts: 3
edited October 2016 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

I noticed another discussion about the instruction to reverse onto pitch with the offside against the peg and wondered if anyone knows the reason for this.  I thought it might be to avoid having awnings together on adjoining pitches - a way of ensuring a
safe distance.  The only problem with this is that  many motorhomes have the door on the offside and therefore this won't work.  We've just returned home from a short trip and thought I would post the question to see if it is for safety or just to maintain
spacing - and yes we did pitch as instructed!

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  • IanH
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    edited October 2016 #2

    The important thing is to pitch as the instructions provided by the warden on arrival at the site (and on tne CC web site).

    As you stand looking at the front of the pitch, it needs to be Car / Caravan / Awning.

    Obviously, some don't have all three components, but the order should be the same.

    As you say, some continental units have the door on the 'opposite' side. Not a problem, but obviously if they want to put an awning up, they would need to put the caravan the opposite way round i.e. nose in.

    Hope that helps.

  • Kerry Watkins
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    edited October 2016 #3

    We have a hobby caravan with the door on the opposite side to the British vans. We have never had a problem when pitching and using the awning. If you reverse the van into position the awning goes where the car would park and vice versa. Simples

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2016 #4

    Carms, you can pitch either way round and it has been clarified on here by staff several times. If you reverse onto the pitch your offside rear corner must be to the peg. If you drive in, your nearside front corner should be to the peg. Unfortunately, many
    people, including some wardens, don't fully understand what is permitted.

    The reason for parking to the peg is to maintain a safe distance of 6m between facing walls of caravans/MHs. Within that 6m your car/awning, if you have either, will be placed and the distance between your car/awning and that of your neighbour should be
    3m.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #5

    Carms, you can pitch either way round and it has been clarified on here by staff several times. If you reverse onto the pitch your offside rear corner must be to the peg. If you drive in, your nearside front corner should be to the peg. Unfortunately, many
    people, including some wardens, don't fully understand what is permitted.

    The reason for parking to the peg is to maintain a safe distance of 6m between facing walls of caravans/MHs. Within that 6m your car/awning, if you have either, will be placed and the distance between your car/awning and that of your neighbour should be
    3m.

    Most do understand howeverWinking

  • Navigateur
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    edited October 2016 #6

    Many 'vans are pitched nose in so the occupants can enjoy the view. Two out of three 'vans shown on your membership card are nose in.

  • mickysf
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    edited October 2016 #7

    It can be site specific and even pitch specific from what I've seen. Some of the more natural sites have the combinations on certain pitches in slightly different arrangements. Some times the car goes at the front, or to the awning side or, occasionally on a very few pitches the whole arrangement is sideways. Always the peg there to help get the distances right mind!

    On many sites, on NA pitches, the car goes on the caravan door side too.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2016 #8

    Just to add the awning is on your door side no matter if you reverse in or have a continental caravan. There are four pitching diagrams held by the warden (ask for them) that show British van nose in/reverse with awning on door side. Continental van nose
    in/reverse with awning on door side. There are a few sites where you have to revserse in (Sandringham is one) but most allow the four I have described. You'll see all four variations on club sites, usually where there is a good view in one direction.

  • Kennine
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    edited October 2016 #9

    The correct way of pitching ( unless told otherwise by the on-site staff ) is :- The caravan to the peg, the car parked one side with the awning on the other. 

    You can go in either nose first or rear first, whichever gives you the best view from your lounge windows. 

    Makes absolutely no differerence if the caravan has the door on the nearside or the offside, so long as the Caravan has been properly pitched to the post. With the car and awning  on either side of the van.

    It's really quite straightforward.

    K  Smile

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  • IanH
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    edited October 2016 #11

    Of course you can put the caravan either way round - it's up to you (and there may be specific site rules).

    But you must follow the instructions of the warden - which they give to you upon arrival - car / caravan / awning.

    Of course, if you have an awning, this could determine which way round you have to pitch the caravan (unless you fancy having the awning on the non-door side).

    Reference has been made to '4 pitching diagrams'. These appear to be something that one warden once had on one site. They don't apear anywhere in the Club handbook, on the Club web site or at any of the Club sites we've been to.

    Car / Caravan /  Awning - it's very clear and is shown o the site details for most sites on the Club web site.

  • SteveL
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    edited October 2016 #12

    As has been stated it is all about maintaining distances, so it matters not on which side the awning is put. If the 3 metre distance between ancillary equipment is maintained if a car is parked there, it will also be maintained with an awning In the same position. In the case of non awning pitches, to maintain distances the car may need to be parked either on the door or other side and on some sites, such as Old Hartley, on a separate parking area.

  • mickysf
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    edited October 2016 #13

    From the Club guidance and rules

    4b. The Site Staff will advise you where your outfit should go in relation to the marker.
    If you wish to pitch in any other way please ask the Site Staff.

    c. To avoid the spread of fire, there must be at least 6 metres spacing between facing walls of adjacent caravans, motorhomes or trailer tents and a minimum clear space of 3 metres between adjoining outfits in any direction.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #14

    I pitch nose in or nose out to suit us. Not a problem

  • IanH
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    edited October 2016 #15

    From the Club guidance and rules

    4b. The Site Staff will advise you where your outfit should go in relation to the marker. If you wish to pitch in any other way please ask the Site Staff.

    c. To avoid the spread of fire, there must be at least 6 metres spacing between facing walls of adjacent caravans, motorhomes or trailer tents and a minimum clear space of 3 metres between adjoining outfits in any direction.

    Exactly so. They do that by giving you a pitching diagram (it's on the site plan that they give you). 

    It usually shows car / caravan / awning.

  • JillwithaJay
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    edited October 2016 #16

    But still some folks can't manage it and reckon they weren't told when booking in. 

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  • mickysf
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    edited October 2016 #17

    From the Club guidance and rules

    4b. The Site Staff will advise you where your outfit should go in relation to the marker. If you wish to pitch in any other way please ask the Site Staff.

    c. To avoid the spread of fire, there must be at least 6 metres spacing between facing walls of adjacent caravans, motorhomes or trailer tents and a minimum clear space of 3 metres between adjoining outfits in any direction.

    Exactly so. They do that by giving you a pitching diagram (it's on the site plan that they give you). 

    It usually shows car / caravan / awning.

    Exactly so!   Usually it will be car/caravan/awning but other configurations are possible. 

    But even after the usual and the unusual, 'if you wish to pitch in an other way, please ask the site staff'.

    It's all in the rules and guidance!

  • SteveL
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    edited October 2016 #18

     

    Exactly so. They do that by giving you a pitching diagram (it's on the site plan that they give you). 

    It usually shows car / caravan / awning.

    However, you are allowed to go nose in or out on most sites, so in the case of nose in this drawing should be inverted. Therefore the sequence would be awning, caravan car. Also seemed to work at Abbey Wood, where due to location there was a high proportion of continental vans. A significant number had backed in, so pitched awning, van, car. However both 6m and 3m spacings were maintained.

  • KjellNN
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    edited October 2016 #19

    Looking at your pitch from the road, your van should always sit just to the right of the marker peg.

    This works for any type of pitch.

  • Navigateur
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    edited October 2016 #20

    The position of the car is not considered when measuring the 6 meter minimum gap between facing sides of habitation. Neither are guy ropes.

    Therefore only the caravan and awning should be reversed, and then it is the corner of the awning that is to be to the peg.  Were the corner of the van to be on the peg, then the awning is projecting into the 6 meter safety space.

  • moulesy
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    edited October 2016 #21

    Looking at your pitch from the road, your van should always sit just to the right of the marker peg.

    This works for any type of pitch.

    Very succinctly summarised Knell. It works whether you're backed onto your pitch or nosed in and should preserve the spacing requirements.

    More often than not folk pitch nose in to make the best of any view available (we've done it twice, once at Troutbeck Head and once at Exebridge Lakeside) so your neighbours would probably be doing the same. Just occasionally you might end up with two awnings/canopies
    facing each other, but it's not a major problem in most cases.

  • Wildwood
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    edited October 2016 #22

    The position of the post is to maintain the required fire sdafety spacing. the 6m figure really has to be a minimum as was proved by the recent fire at Broadway. The spacing seems to have prevented the fire spreading but the units either side of the fire
    were still badly damaged so even 6m looks borderline.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited October 2016 #23

    Of course you can put the caravan either way round - it's up to you (and there may be specific site rules).

    But you must follow the instructions of the warden - which they give to you upon arrival - car / caravan / awning.

    Of course, if you have an awning, this could determine which way round you have to pitch the caravan (unless you fancy having the awning on the non-door side).

    Now you're being silly.

  • IanH
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    edited October 2016 #24

    From the Club guidance and rules

    4b. The Site Staff will advise you where your outfit should go in relation to the marker. If you wish to pitch in any other way please ask the Site Staff.

    c. To avoid the spread of fire, there must be at least 6 metres spacing between facing walls of adjacent caravans, motorhomes or trailer tents and a minimum clear space of 3 metres between adjoining outfits in any direction.

    Exactly so. They do that by giving you a pitching diagram (it's on the site plan that they give you). 

    It usually shows car / caravan / awning.

    Exactly so!   Usually it will be car/caravan/awning but other configurations are possible. 

    But even after the usual and the unusual, 'if you wish to pitch in an other way, please ask the site staff'.

    It's all in the rules and guidance!

    Other configurations are not normally possible -  the diagram that the warden gives you, telling you how to pitch, is very clear  and should be followed for the benefit of fellow members. I'm surprised that you appear to encourage people to break Club rules,
    Micky.

    I said 'usually' because I am aware that the odd site has slightly different rules. Cirencester, for example, has a lot of unacceptably narrow pitches, so they show an alternative layout where the car is in front of the caravan. Still caravan / awning (when
    looking from the road) however. 

    I can only assume that those who appear to break the site rules (based on their posts on here) have obtained
    specific permission from the wardens to do so?

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #25

    From the Club guidance and rules

    4b. The Site Staff will advise you where your outfit should go in relation to the marker. If you wish to pitch in any other way please ask the Site Staff.

    c. To avoid the spread of fire, there must be at least 6 metres spacing between facing walls of adjacent caravans, motorhomes or trailer tents and a minimum clear space of 3 metres between adjoining outfits in any direction.

    Exactly so. They do that by giving you a pitching diagram (it's on the site plan that they give you). 

    It usually shows car / caravan / awning.

    Exactly so!   Usually it will be car/caravan/awning but other configurations are possible. 

    But even after the usual and the unusual, 'if you wish to pitch in an other way, please ask the site staff'.

    It's all in the rules and guidance!

    Other configurations are not normally possible -  the diagram that the warden gives you, telling you how to pitch, is very clear  and should be followed for the benefit of fellow members. I'm surprised that you appear to encourage people to break Club rules,
    Micky.

    I said 'usually' because I am aware that the odd site has slightly different rules. Cirencester, for example, has a lot of unacceptably narrow pitches, so they show an alternative layout where the car is in front of the caravan. Still caravan / awning (when
    looking from the road) however. 

    I can only assume that those who appear to break the site rules (based on their posts on here) have obtained
    specific permission from the wardens to do so?

    ROFL

  • SteveL
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    edited October 2016 #26

    I said 'usually' because I am aware that the odd site has slightly different rules. Cirencester, for example, has a lot of unacceptably narrow pitches, so they show an alternative layout where the car is in front of the caravan.
    Still caravan / awning (when looking from the road) however. 

     

    It would be difficult to do it any other way on those pitches, as the peg is on the extreme left.

  • IanH
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    edited October 2016 #27

    I take it that you ignore Club rules and pitching instructions and see them as a joke then, ET?

    Rather disrespectful of your fellow members, I would say.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #28

    I take it that you ignore Club rules and pitching instructions and see them as a joke then, ET?

    Rather disrespectful of your fellow members, I would say.

    I am sure Ian that you are well aware that nose in or nose out are both acceptable on 99% of CC sites but choose to ignore the fact.

     

    Alan

  • KjellNN
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    edited October 2016 #29

    We were at High Onn recently, we had trouble with our battery, the warden came and helped us move the van onto the pitch, nose first.  He reckoned it was a good idea to face the view.

    At Trewethett Farm, all the vans face the view, wardens seem fine with it.

    Then there is Bunree.

    As long as you park the van where it ought to be, to maintain a safe spacing,  we have never found a warden who was bothered which way round it was.

    How do you survive continental sites Ian......no rules, people pitching  how they like on most sites?

  • IanH
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    edited October 2016 #30

    I take it that you ignore Club rules and pitching instructions and see them as a joke then, ET?

    Rather disrespectful of your fellow members, I would say.

    I am sure Ian that you are well aware that nose in or nose out are both acceptable on 99% of CC sites but choose to ignore the fact.

     

    Alan

    As I've said at least twice that nose in or out is acceptable, I don't understand your post.

    If you don't have an awning and therefore go either way in, then it would seem that we don't have a different opinion on this matter and I apologise for saying that you ignore the rules, if that is the case.

  • mickysf
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    edited October 2016 #31

    The rule (4b) specifically tells us/invites us to ask if we wish to pitch differently! And therefore asking the wardens about the possibility is encouraged! It is those who do so without seeking guidance first and just do as they please who break the rules not those of us who ask about the possibility and are the rule abiders.