Pitching Instruction
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Currently at Burrs Country park where a large 12m Motorhome arrived yesterday. They must have made prior arrangements as max length is 9m and a suitable pitch was reserved to accommodate them. However, on arrival they pitched at the very edge of the pitch
with the land between them and the caravan next door being a triangle shape when the rear slide out was deployed it was almost touching the guy next doors car.The warden asked them to move to the correct position last night. This was ignored and a further request was made this morning.
You would think if dispensation had been granted to allow you on the site a special provisions made you would bend over backwards to ensure you complied with the rules.
If I was the warden, the next request would be met with sorry no can do.
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you are right Stewart -one spoils it for many - shame on them for being so selfish!
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It is difficult to understand why some people cannot pitch correctly when the verbal and written instructions are clearly given.
We were at Melrose a couple of years back, the site was almost full, everyone correctl pitched. We noticed when we came bach for lunch that a couple had arrived and taken the last pitch and proceeded to pitch with their van all the way to the LH edge and
started to put up a porch awning.Their neighbours had presumably said nothing, which I thought strange, and they themselves had obviously failed to take in what they had been told, or to notice that only they had pitched differently to everyone else.
They must eventually have realised as they were in the process of moving!
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Hope somebody can help here. What diagram of website can I look at that clearly lays down the correct acceptable procedure?
Thanks in anticipation.
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Yes i feel so privaliged that caravan owners let me belong to their club
,some caravaner's even talk to me 
...After being in both camps at times, I can understand the frustration of m/van owners ,but after the last trip to the "dark side"I now realise why we came back to the Caravan club but i will still "talk"to the as we found out, lesser types
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I'm with Harry & Ian. We vary rarely use CC sites, mainly CL's but after being a member for over 25 years upon entering CC reception & booking in I am always told how to pitch, mostly by the little model. However, when re-entering reception & joining the queue to advise the pitch number we are on, the people in front neverseem to be advised how to pitch to the post. Amazing.
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In reply to IanH comment about wardens getting a rocket up them. I am the unfortunate person that lost my caravan at a CC site in May this year. For a good job, the site was well spaced out. This has been done due too Hook-up points being withdrawn. The
nearest caravans too the fire were well away, but it could have been a very different story indeed. This is why the spacings are now wider on all CC sites. So my point being, it is definately important that members site their vans the correct way, and as per
instructions from the wardens. Doing what we would like to do, could cause a nasty accident. It is not nice seeing the damage that a caravan fire can do in 30 minutes, total wreck. I rest my case.0 -
Sorry to hear about your horrid event BillandMargaret, personally I think all pitches should carry the required spacing so that assuming you pitch within the square area of your pitch you can pitch how you like. This would mean the wardens wouldnt have
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In reply to IanH comment about wardens getting a rocket up them. I am the unfortunate person that lost my caravan at a CC site in May this year. For a good job, the site was well spaced out. This has been done due too Hook-up points being withdrawn. The
nearest caravans too the fire were well away, but it could have been a very different story indeed. This is why the spacings are now wider on all CC sites. So my point being, it is definately important that members site their vans the correct way, and as per
instructions from the wardens. Doing what we would like to do, could cause a nasty accident. It is not nice seeing the damage that a caravan fire can do in 30 minutes, total wreck. I rest my case.Bill
Sorry to hear of your awful accident and firstly may I say I hope you and your wife are ok. It's good of you to come on here and highlight it with regards to this post.
What you are saying is exactly the reason I wrote this post. Pitching is very important but if wardens don't carry out their duties in maintaining the rule then they are not doing their job. Likewise if members pitch how they think and against the rules
then they too are adding to the risk.Hope things have been sorted out for you. Perhaps if you can bear to, maybe you could start a new thread with your thoughts on the experience would be welcomed by members.
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Hope somebody can help here. What diagram of website can I look at that clearly lays down the correct acceptable procedure?
Thanks in anticipation.
As far as I know, they are available on each site plan. These are available as pdf's on the site details page. This example for Cirencester shows the two different pitching layouts, due to the difference in size of the pitches. See here
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Hope somebody can help here. What diagram of website can I look at that clearly lays down the correct acceptable procedure?
Thanks in anticipation.
As far as I know, they are available on each site plan. These are available as pdf's on the site details page. This example for Cirencester shows the two different pitching layouts, due to the difference in size of the pitches.
See hereWrite your comments here...Thanks SteveL. It seems that pegs can be left, centre or middle depending on the site - is that correct?
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Hope somebody can help here. What diagram of website can I look at that clearly lays down the correct acceptable procedure?
Thanks in anticipation.
As far as I know, they are available on each site plan. These are available as pdf's on the site details page. This example for Cirencester shows the two different pitching layouts, due to the difference in size of the pitches.
See hereWrite your comments here...Thanks SteveL. It seems that pegs can be left, centre or middle depending on the site - is that correct?
Ideally, on an awning pitch they will either be on the left, as on the narrow pitches at Cirencester, with your car across the front. On the more common wider pitches the peg really needs to be about 3 metres from the left, giving you room to park your car
and service your Aqua roll etc. That would give you about 5.5 metres to the right of the peg, for caravan and awning. Unfortunately due to fire regs, the peg is not always in the ideal position and either the car or awning ends up being a bit tight.0 -
This example for Cirencester shows the two different pitching layouts
There are actually 4 different accepted pitching methods to encompass nose in/nose out pitching - both of which are fully acceptable to the CC despite what some wardens and members would like you to think. I have a picture of these given me by a
warden a while back - but I cant post pictures on here - sorry.0 -
I used to complain when the wardens insisted that you pitched centre to the peg ,when I complained that I could not see the peg if it was behind my caravan ,l was told that's what your wife/partner is for by the female warden at hunters moon site and had
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bmbonanza. The whole idea of sticking too the correct pitch marker is exactly my point. You cannot have individuals just parking within your pitching area. This would lead to certain parts of your outfit being closer to another persons outfit. I agree with
IanH and harryb, the wardens should make sure that we ALL park in the correct place. If you had seen the devastation that a Caravan fire can do, I bet you would not like it on your conscious if it had turned out very differently. As the fire officer said,
caravans can be replaced, lives cannot. Fortuneately we were with the CC 5* Super Insurance, it has taken about 2 months to get it all sorted out. Got our new van early August and now back on the road again. Myself & OH, would not like other people to go through
what we have been through this last 3 months. Common sense must prevail in this matter.In reply to harryb request ref starting a new thread on this matter, I would consider it OK. It is a bit awkward trying to put down what our thoughts were at the time. I am going back too the scene of the fire in 2 weeks time, and will have a chat with the
wardens on this subject. We both feel that serious items like this should be brought up at the Annual Wardens Meeting. I am sure that the Management of the Club are taking this very seriously indeed. If you have not been subjected to this kind of situation
or that of losing your outfit in a crash, then every body reacts differently.Thank you all for your kind thoughts.
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Are some still confused by the old idea of pitching caravan centre to the peg and, the peg being, in some instances, centre to the pitch. In both these instances we should pitch corner of van, the 'new' idea, to peg regardless of where the peg is placed on the pitch as in the diagram at Cirencester?
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It must be difficult to be corrected when pitching incorrectly if , in doing so, no fire breaks are contravened at the time of the setting down . However, imagine a free for all where no guidance at all is offered to the novice or the seasoned! Maybe it should be get it wrong and expect to be asked to move! In addition it must be difficult when you stay for many nights and your ' possibly incorrect' pitching can have a detrimental effect on your future neighbours. Just pitch as guided and instructed as this, I think, is the best, simplest and fairest way for all.
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bmbonanza. The whole idea of sticking too the correct pitch marker is exactly my point. You cannot have individuals just parking within your pitching area
I appreciate this and we are never more than a couple of inches off the peg. However I still think it would be better to define a pitch as a rectangle and then make the gap between that rectangle and the next one sufficient so that you wherever you
were within it you would have sufficient space.The spacing does not address the concern that you may be 6m from the caravan next to you sideways, but far less from the one that is behind you on the next row.
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On our site we explain to each arrival, very briefly, how to pitch. If we did not and then had to ask somebody to move the first retort we would get is "well nobody told me when I arrived".
Please be assured we have people who have been members for years who when challanged claim they did not know the speed limit, what the different colour pegs represent or the correct way to pitch.
If somebody does pitch significantly differently we will point out that they have done so but will only ask them to move if as a result they are contravening the fire spacing regulations or causing inconvenience to another member. Please do not assume they remain there because the warden has failed to do his job!
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To allow 'pitch how you like' would require a minimum of 6m spacing on all sides of a pitch. On, I would imagine, all CC sites that would reduce the no. of pitches quite significantly, not to mention the costs involved. The impact on availability of pitches
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The only way to ensure correct spacing is to do what the other club do and have a warden accompany each arrival to their pitch. We find this irritating sometimes as some insist on inch perfect pitching but this prevents the problem of breaching fire regulations.
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On our site we explain to each arrival, very briefly, how to pitch. If we did not and then had to ask somebody to move the first retort we would get is "well nobody told me when I arrived".
Please be assured we have people who have been members for years who when challanged claim they did not know the speed limit, what the different colour pegs represent or the correct way to pitch.
If somebody does pitch significantly differently we will point out that they have done so but will only ask them to move if as a result they are contravening the fire spacing regulations or causing inconvenience to another member. Please do not assume they
remain there because the warden has failed to do his job!A very sensible post. Are we not directed to ask if we want to pitch differently to the norm prior to doing so? That way we at least will have the definative answer and guidance before putting corner steadies down and awning up. On occasions mind this may
prompt that which you don't want to hear and you can't then plead ignorance.0 -
In reply to IanH comment about wardens getting a rocket up them. I am the unfortunate person that lost my caravan at a CC site in May this year. For a good job, the site was well spaced out. This has been done due too Hook-up points being withdrawn. The
nearest caravans too the fire were well away, but it could have been a very different story indeed. This is why the spacings are now wider on all CC sites. So my point being, it is definately important that members site their vans the correct way, and as per
instructions from the wardens. Doing what we would like to do, could cause a nasty accident. It is not nice seeing the damage that a caravan fire can do in 30 minutes, total wreck. I rest my case.Hello Bill and Margaret - I'm really sorry to hear about your loss. It must have been an awful experience and one that not many of us can even imaging, I'm sure. I hope that you are both alright now and getting over the experience.
The actual incident that I was referring to was at Broadway in about July / August this year, so maybe there have been two incidents this year?
If so, that certainly puts into perspective the comments we often get along the lines of "Yeah, but how many caravan fires are there?" Well, one is too many, two is far, far too many.
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Hope somebody can help here. What diagram of website can I look at that clearly lays down the correct acceptable procedure?
Thanks in anticipation.
As far as I know, they are available on each site plan. These are available as pdf's on the site details page. This example for Cirencester shows the two different pitching layouts, due to the difference in size of the pitches.
See hereWell, it can't be any clearer than that, can it?
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Possibly could be and there lies the importance of asking first! Take for example RVs, cavarans and fifth wheelers with side outs, continental builds, those micro caravans and camper vans with awnings out the back, trailer tents etc. All may need wardens discretion/guidance, call it what you will, to fit them on with fire breaks maintained.
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We had ten days on the Kendal site. On arrival we were given clear instructions about pitching with the peg to the offside of the caravan. We were pitched on an open gravelled area. During our stay we had five different sets of neighbours. Not one pitched
correctly, but all to their advantage and our disadvantage. The worst pitched with the peg to their nearside. Another had the peg central to the van. The only one I was able to speak to before they had set up was pitching about three feet over to our side.
The woman gave me a right mouthfull but the man agreed with me and moved over. Afterwards I wished I hadn't bothered.0 -
That is the problem, Rovinmad.
You point out that someone is doing something wrong and they try to turn it into you doing something wrong and it could spoil your holiday.
That's why the wardens must really get on and enforce these rules, not simply explain them from the 'safety' of their office.
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Hope somebody can help here. What diagram of website can I look at that clearly lays down the correct acceptable procedure?
Thanks in anticipation.
As far as I know, they are available on each site plan. These are available as pdf's on the site details page. This example for Cirencester shows the two different pitching layouts, due to the difference in size of the pitches.
See hereWell, it can't be any clearer than that, can it?
Write your comments here...Thanks Ian.
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