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  • SteveL
    SteveL Club Member Posts: 12,311 ✭✭✭
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    edited September 2016 #332

    i think i would rather have a child cycle towards me ,knowing i'm there ,than going in the same direction  wobbling about in front of me and then realise i'm there and panic and could fall off..................

    Personally I prefer them going the same way. If in front I am happy to follow at a safe distance. Or if behind, and they run into the back, they are likely to do far less damage to themselves at circa 7.5 ft per second, than 22.

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  • JVB66
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    edited September 2016 #334

    Perhaps one-way systems add to the hazard. If there were two way traffic, would people be more circumspect?

    Agreed ..... same reasoning that in some places ALL road sign have been removed to create a free for all, which makes us all think a bit more

    ...no road signs, lines (white nor yellow), nor roundabouts etc in Poundbury....a bit wierd the first time....

    ..But then Charlie Boy is watching ,and the way its "planned" there are curtain twitchers in most propertiesWink

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  • Oneputt
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    edited September 2016 #336

    If you are reversed to the peg, and your van faces the road your most certainly looking out onto the front of your van due to the way the layout is configured.  During the day there are very few curtains closed so no idea where the curtain twitcher syndrome
    comes from!

    Two way system certainly not a runner as roads too narrow

  • SteveL
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    edited September 2016 #337

    If you are reversed to the peg, and your van faces the road your most certainly looking out onto the front of your van due to the way the layout is configured. 
    During the day there are very few curtains closed so no idea where the curtain twitcher syndrome comes from!

    Two way system certainly not a runner as roads too narrow

    During the eight years we had our previous van the curtains never came out of the loops, except to be cleaned. Same with the current van. It is very difficult to twitch the blinds on our van as they fit all round.

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2016 #338

    If you are reversed to the peg, and your van faces the road your most certainly looking out onto the front of your van due to the way the layout is configured.  During the day there are very few curtains closed so no idea where the curtain twitcher syndrome comes from!

    Two way system certainly not a runner as roads too narrow

    ..But if and when the sun shines ,it is better to draw the curtains as the instructions are not to pull the blinds down when hot sunWink .

  • IanH
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    edited September 2016 #339

    Could I ask - why do parents (well, certainly a few that post on here) seem to have such a big problem with taking their kids somewhere suitable to play and to learn how to ride their bikes?

    Why do they see it as necessary for their kids to ride round and round on site roads (which are not play areas) and often at speed and in the wrong direction?

    Is it all too much trouble for you to take them somewhere more suitable?

    Do you ever, for a moment, consider the impact on others? Or is just you that matters?

    I've not yet seen an answer to this.

    Would one of those parents who are happy to send their kids off around the site to play, care to offer a reply?

    So no-one can offer an answer to his then.

    And yet, all will say that they are good parents and their kids are well behaved and under control.

    Apparantly not.......

  • SteveL
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    edited September 2016 #340

     

    ..But if and when the sun shines ,it is better to draw the curtains as the instructions are not to pull the blinds down when hot sunWink .

    Not if they go up rather than down and you leave a section of the fly blind at the top for the heat to escape.

  • IamtheGaitor
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    edited September 2016 #341

    Could I ask - why do parents (well, certainly a few that post on here) seem to have such a big problem with taking their kids somewhere suitable to play and to learn how to ride their bikes?

    Why do they see it as necessary for their kids to ride round and round on site roads (which are not play areas) and often at speed and in the wrong direction?

    Is it all too much trouble for you to take them somewhere more suitable?

    Do you ever, for a moment, consider the impact on others? Or is just you that matters?

    I've not yet seen an answer to this.

    Would one of those parents who are happy to send their kids off around the site to play, care to offer a reply?

    So no-one can offer an answer to his then.

    And yet, all will say that they are good parents and their kids are well behaved and under control.

    Apparantly not.......

    Our kids learned to ride their bikes on our street - which is a culdesac - as did the rest of their group and as do the next generation who are out on their bikes at this very moment outside the house.  They did take their bikes caravanning with us and they
    did go off riding round the site.  As far as I know they didnt cause any problems - at least no one ever came and said they did.

    I dont have any problem with children on bikes provided they follow basic rules of good manners and courtesy.  Children are allowed to enjoy themselves on site just the same as adults are as long as it doesnt impact on other people.  They like to be out
    an about, on bikes or whatever, socialising with other children and a site is (relatively) a safe place for them to do that.  If and when we do take children with us we would allow them - once they got to an appropriate age - to go off round the site on their
    bikes expecting them to be respectful of others.  I think the majority of parents/grandparents are the same and it is usually fine for everyone.  Occasionally there is a problem - like occasionally adults enjoying themselves causes a problem, but mostly it
    is fine. 

  • IanH
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    edited September 2016 #342

    But the site roads are not a play area....

  • toowetforcamping
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    edited September 2016 #343

    Great post Bmb

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2016 #344

    But the site roads are not a play area....

    But it's better that the roads, and as a car driver I can't see why you can't cut them some slack.

  • EasyT
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    edited September 2016 #345

    what do you expect of these 'irresponcible parents'? That they velco their kids to their sides? 

    I consider that on some sites letting a 4 or 5 year old cycle out of sight is reckless. As far as I am aware that was the approx age of the two children who died and the drivers were exonerated

  • IamtheGaitor
    IamtheGaitor Forum Participant Posts: 529
    edited September 2016 #346

    But the site roads are not a play area....

    The whole of a caravan site is - IMO - a recreational area. Places such as centre parcs dont allow vehicles onsite specifically so that people can cycle freely and safely. I wouldnt like to see the CC go down this route but I think that would be fairer than
    stopping children cycling on site roads. I think the CC has got the balance fairly close to right at the moment allowing cars onsite at 5mph but also welcoming  cycling for both adults and children.  Play areas are very different - they are not suitable for
    cycling in anyway due to size and surfacing.

    Many times we have seen a small child on stabiisers at the start of the weekend on site and off them by the end - lovely to see :-)

  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited September 2016 #347

    I disagree. With large motorhomes, heavy vehicles towing large caravans around and people busy looking for somewhere to pitch, this is not a recreation area by any stretch.

    Use the bike to get on and off site, by all means. But still follow the usual rules of the road and don't treat them as play areas. Just take them to somewhere suitable for that....is it really too much trouble to spend time with your kids?

  • huskydog
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    edited September 2016 #348

    I disagree. With large motorhomes, heavy vehicles towing large caravans around and people busy looking for somewhere to pitch, this is not a recreation area by any stretch.

    Use the bike to get on and off site, by all means. But still follow the usual rules of the road and don't treat them as play areas. Just take them to somewhere suitable for that....is it really too much trouble to spend time with your kids?

    Maybe some kids don't want to spend time with their parentsSurprised

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  • kaenergas
    kaenergas Forum Participant Posts: 171
    edited September 2016 #350

    If I am driving on site and come across some children cycling I stop the car and wait till it's clear or ask them to move onto the grass. If driving at site speed upto 5 miles per hour i don't see an issue with children on site cycling. As adult responsible
    caravaners it's us who should be aware of potential incidents and drive and act accordingly. IMHO

  • chris23
    chris23 Forum Participant Posts: 38
    edited September 2016 #351

    I stopped my car as a child was biking the wrong way down the one way system and it didn't stop him from crashing into my car!

  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited September 2016 #352

    So again, why do parents have such a big problem with taking their kids somewhere suitable to play and ride bikes?

  • eurortraveller
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    edited September 2016 #353

    So again, why do parents have such a big problem with taking their kids somewhere suitable to play and ride bikes?

    They don't have a problem. They take them to a campsite. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2016 #354

    So again, why do parents have such a big problem with taking their kids somewhere suitable to play and ride bikes?

    They don't have a problem. They take them to a campsite. 

    Exactly eurot 

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2016 #355

    So again, why do parents have such a big problem with taking their kids somewhere suitable to play and ride bikes?

    They don't have a problem. They take them to a campsite. 

    ...So that others can ,  at times, have a "problem"

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2016 #356

    So again, why do parents have such a big problem with taking their kids somewhere suitable to play and ride bikes?

    They don't have a problem. They take them to a campsite. 

    ...So that others can ,  at times, have a "problem"

    I think that on the whole, they're in the minority

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2016 #357

    So again, why do parents have such a big problem with taking their kids somewhere suitable to play and ride bikes?

    They don't have a problem. They take them to a campsite. 

    ...So that others can ,  at times, have a "problem"

    I think that on the whole, they're in the minority

    ...As are most that things do not suit

  • IanH
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    edited September 2016 #358

    So again, why do parents have such a big problem with taking their kids somewhere suitable to play and ride bikes?

    They don't have a problem. They take them to a campsite. 

    You misunderstand.......I meant, why don't the parents take them somewhere suitable to play and ride bikes. Obviously a caravan site isn't suitable.

    Or are you saying that it's too much trouble for parents to take their kids anywhere after they arrive on a site? I realise it would mean foregoing a few drinks, but surely not too much trouble.....is it?

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  • toowetforcamping
    toowetforcamping Forum Participant Posts: 42
    edited September 2016 #360

    I'm definitely in Group 1

  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited September 2016 #361

    I'm definitely in Group 1

    You think a campsite is a playground and it's perfectly fine to send small children (unsupervised) to ride the wrong way, against heavy, dangerous traffic??