Have the club adopted a new approach to speeding

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  • Solobay
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    edited August 2016 #36

    This is a matter of common sense. One site we go to on a regular basis I've seen the warden stopping cars and having a quite word, no big speed gun or trap - simple common sense.

    Equally a lot of the bigger engined and especially diesel cars struggle to stay constantly below 5mph

    As longs as done carefully and safely whats the problem

     

    Theres situations wher i think 2mph is unsafe!

  • Briang
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    This is a matter of common sense. One site we go to on a regular basis I've seen the warden stopping cars and having a quite word, no big speed gun or trap - simple common sense.

    Equally a lot of the bigger engined and especially diesel cars struggle to stay constantly below 5mph

    As longs as done carefully and safely whats the problem

     

    Theres situations wher i think 2mph is unsafe!

    My Land riser which is a big vehicle ticks over at under 5mph quite happily

     

  • IamtheGaitor
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    edited August 2016 #38

    This is a matter of common sense. One site we go to on a regular basis I've seen the warden stopping cars and having a quite word, no big speed gun or trap - simple common sense.

    Equally a lot of the bigger engined and especially diesel cars struggle to stay constantly below 5mph

    As longs as done carefully and safely whats the problem

     

    Theres situations wher i think 2mph is unsafe!

    My Land riser which is a big vehicle ticks over at under 5mph quite happily

     

    Yep, so does my 4.2l Land cruiser. I harrow fields at 5mph for hours so pottering around a caravan site is no problem..

  • anothersunrise
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    edited August 2016 #39

    There is a site in the Midlands that puts the registration numbers of any speeding cars on the board. So I've been told.  

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    An alternative is the way is the C&CC help people to site their vans. A warden, usually on a bike, asks you to follow behind, points out available pitches (you've prebooked a type of pitch beforehand.) Then you choose the pitch you want and that's usually it. No panic speed driving round and round the site, some good contact with the warden along the way and site questions answered etc.

  • IamtheGaitor
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     We always walk even on a site in Croatia where it was nearly a kilometre back to the reception. 

    Where do you leave your car and caravan whilst you are looking round David?

    I like this idea I just cant see it working on most of the CC sites I have been to due mainly to lack of space at reception.

    We usually know which pitches we like on sites we have visited before, or which ones look good on the plan for sites we havent visited, so this would be fine for us.

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  • JVB66
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    edited August 2016 #44

    As I have said many times.  All new arrivals should given a reserved marker and be made to
    walk around the site to chose their pitch.  No two or three laps, no lap of honour and no speeding, and all mobility buggies should be fitted with a speed limiter before being allowed on site.  

    Good idea but not practical - with some of the more rambling sites some members might be literally hours walking round to choose a pitch whilst their caravan is clogging up the entry road.

    Then you have the scenario where Mr Smith puts his reserved on pitch 10. Mr Bean then arrives, fancies pitch 10, has a quick shuftie round to see if anyone is looking then whips off Mr Smith's marker and pops his own in place, sticking Mr Smith on pitch
    9 and hoping he will put it down to a senior moment. 

    Would the reserved markers be unique to each member? If not there would be the problem of whose marker it was  too.

    I love your positive thinking BMB but I also wonder why it works so well on many continental sites Undecided.



    ..Out of the thousands of continental sites what is "many?) maybe its to keep the dust down when on a searchWink

  • JohnM20
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    edited August 2016 #45

    On one site in France we were taken around the available pitches in a golf buggy by one of the wardens and then made our choice back at reception.

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2016 #46

    On one site in France we were taken around the available pitches in a golf buggy by one of the wardens and then made our choice back at reception.

    ...When nearly full they do/did that at Hillhead on our last visit 

  • IamtheGaitor
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    I dont recall a site yet even club sites where there is nowhere to park for a short time, outside the toilet block has often been
    convenient.

    OK for one car and van but if everyone did this there just wouldnt be space.  Our outfit takes up 42 feet on its own - as do many others - if you get 6 or 7 of those parked up with people all walking round looking for pitches its going to get fairly tight?

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  • cyberyacht
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    edited August 2016 #49

    Drive on to site

    See empty pitch

    Will van fit

    Park van

    Add beer/wine/tea to taste

  • jeffcc
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    This is a matter of common sense. One site we go to on a regular basis I've seen the warden stopping cars and having a quite word, no big speed gun or trap - simple common sense.

    Equally a lot of the bigger engined and especially diesel cars struggle to stay constantly below 5mph

    As longs as done carefully and safely whats the problem

     

    Theres situations wher i think 2mph is unsafe!

    My Land riser which is a big vehicle ticks over at under 5mph quite happily

     

    Could not agree more i have a twin turbo 3 litre diesel which will go at less than walking pace in first with the cluch fully out and no throttle some people do spout a load of!!!

  • jeffcc
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    edited August 2016 #51

    How about the big Smiley speed indicators? everyone can then see if you are speeding no ifs no buts can't beat a good bit of embarrasment. Oh wait a minute i guess the ones who speed would not care anyway, SorryYell. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2016 #52

    I suspect that most vehicles these days will run below 6mph on tickover.

    When on site pedestrians that decide to wait to cross as I approach have lost the will to live by the time I get there.

  • jeffcc
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    edited August 2016 #53

    I suspect that most vehicles these days will run below 6mph on tickover.

    When on site pedestrians that decide to wait to cross as I approach have lost the will to live by the time I get there.

    Being an automotive lecturer of some standing within the trade i can do nothing but agree with you EasyT i Know of no vehicles that are incapable of 5mph or less in first gear in fact the mot test is designed to test brake efficiency at less than this speed
    as this is the accepted threshold for ABS operation. I find it far more likely that it is not the vehicle that is not capable of travelling at less the 5mph but far more likely the driver!!

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2016 #54

    I know many speedometers might record higher than the sat nav though Winking

  • jeffcc
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    edited August 2016 #55

    That is Very true EasyT at speed this may be correct but as most sat navs are only accurate to within 10 metres too many people put great reliance on them and drive to close to the limit via the sat nav, manufaturers have to build in an overspeed reading
    to ensure that at a given indicated speed the driver is indeed below the speed limit usually about 10%

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2016 #56

    My speedo reads about 7mph over at 70mph on sat nav

  • jeffcc
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    About norm easyt, whan i used to work for one of the major breakdown companies i did my own month on month survey as to speeds and jorney times this was not a rough calc but a very accurate logged and detailed calc to do with company fuel useage. sticking
    to speed limits i averaged 38mph and 36mpg(big 4x4) driving flat out everywhere possible averaged 38mph  and 30mpg, this was done over  two full years so fairly accurate. So the only conclusion was that all speed does is increase your mpg. Anyone who reckons
    that in the uk they can average over 45mph on a long journey is deluded.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited August 2016 #58

    The best two runs I ever did towing were from Fareham to Penrith (49mph 30mpg) and Perth to Cannock (46mph 31mpg).

    Generally when towing averages are mid to high thirties. These are driving averages without allowing for breaks. Long motorway stretches might allow the mid to high forties but generally progress is far more modest.

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  • Briang
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    edited August 2016 #60

    You must have been speeding. Happy

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2016 #61

    Our tow car has a fuel /mpg meter and it has never shown the mpg that is in the "brochure " a good run on m/ways towing has at the most shown the mid thirties