Have the club adopted a new approach to speeding

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  • Fysherman
    Fysherman Forum Participant Posts: 1,570
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    edited August 2016 #62

    Buy a VW and it will.

    Show the same numbers, actually doing it is a different matterUndecided

  • MichaelT
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    edited August 2016 #63

    We have always managed to average about 50mph towing on a long journey (200-400 miles) including stops.  Obvioulsy shorter distances it may not be so possible as you need a decent part of it to be on dual carriageways or motorways but I know if I am going
    say 300 miles I would allow 6 hours, 8 hours for 400 miles etc. and 99% of the time it would be accurate to within 15 minutes or so.  This is towing between 60-65 on clearish roads in good weather i.e. no high winds or jam packed full of traffic.

    Now with the MH on the few longer trips we have done so far I have averaged about the same but time will tell.

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2016 #64

    We have always managed to average about 50mph towing on a long journey (200-400 miles) including stops.  Obvioulsy shorter distances it may not be so possible as you need a decent part of it to be on dual carriageways or motorways but I know if I am going say 300 miles I would allow 6 hours, 8 hours for 400 miles etc. and 99% of the time it would be accurate to within 15 minutes or so.  This is towing between 60-65 on clearish roads in good weather i.e. no high winds or jam packed full of traffic.

    Now with the MH on the few longer trips we have done so far I have averaged about the same but time will tell.

    Not even the manufactuers of the base vehicle will give those figures ,kilometres? ...Undecided

  • hitchglitch
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    edited August 2016 #65

    I didn't know there was a speed limit! I thought that everybody just crawled around at a sensible speed as I would do on any site here or abroad. Speedos don't register below about 10 mph anyway.

  • MichaelT
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    edited August 2016 #66

    We have always managed to average about 50mph towing on a long journey (200-400 miles) including stops.  Obvioulsy shorter distances it may not be so possible as you need a decent part of it to be on dual carriageways or motorways but I know if I am going
    say 300 miles I would allow 6 hours, 8 hours for 400 miles etc. and 99% of the time it would be accurate to within 15 minutes or so.  This is towing between 60-65 on clearish roads in good weather i.e. no high winds or jam packed full of traffic.

    Now with the MH on the few longer trips we have done so far I have averaged about the same but time will tell.

    Not even the manufactuers of the base vehicle will give those figures ,kilometres? ...Undecided

    Write your comments here...if you mean MPG then around 25....

  • trellis
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    edited August 2016 #67

    I love how this thread has morphed from speeding on site to mechanical weekly .lol.

  • BlueVanMan
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    edited August 2016 #68

    5mph is a quick walking pace.  Since "speeders" are usually doing well over it isn't difficult to spot and there is absolutely no excuse for it. And its not just solo's or M/H. I have seen double axle caravans being towed at speed around the site. Although
    the warden can (and should) have a  word, ultimately, as a matter of fact and law its a matter of personal responsibility so its not a case of the club copping out its a case of individuals being negligent..... or if you prefer /boneheaded/selfish/stupid (delete
    as appropriate) 

     

     

  • IanBHawkes
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    edited August 2016 #69

    If members were told that 1st gear was the only gear to be used then that would help keep speeds down. Wardens cannot really tell members off for speeding if they themselves have not seen it happen. As for putting speed humps in! Yes, they do slow you down,
    but then some would just accelerate up the next one. So, that would defeat the object.

    I was on a site in Germany this year where the speed humps were so severe you had to stop and crawl over and even then they damaged my mudflaps and caravans bounced over them!

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2016 #70

    I don't think there's any point in stipulating which gear to use. Manuals are capable of doing well over 5mph in 1st gear and some autos only have ratios rather than actual gears. Anyway, who's going to check which gear you're using?

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2016 #71

    I have seen requests on some sites to only use first gear. In a manual that makes sense to me and yes I can tell if somebody changes up. I use 1st and tickover. On occasion I have absent mindedly (on holiday after all) changed up to second and realsied and
    back down to 1st.

     

  • cyberyacht
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    edited August 2016 #72

    Find a busy site where speeding is a problem and install a speed radar triggered 'stinger'.  Word would soon get around. If this seems too draconian replace the stinger with a anti-ram barrier that rises up and locks in position for five minutes.

  • NutsyH
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    edited August 2016 #73

    Exebridge lakeside. Pleasantly surprised that the warden stopped anyone he judged to be over the 5mph, and told them in no uncertain terms of the consequences. Not choosy who he stopped either. One day the local constabulary cme onto site in their Astra
    panda car, driving far too fast through the site. Warden, cutting hedges, stepped out, stopped her and, in my hearing, told her to "slow down, 5mph speed limit on site".

    She did too!!!

  • IanBHawkes
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    edited August 2016 #74

    I don't think there's any point in stipulating which gear to use. Manuals are capable of doing well over 5mph in 1st gear and some autos only have ratios rather than actual gears. Anyway, who's going to check which gear you're using?

    If someone goes over 5 mph in 1st gear the engine will be over-revving, therefore it will be obvious that a greater speed is being used. As for auto boxes, it is very easy to put a lock on and it will stay in 1st gear and therefore will have the same effect
    as in a manual vehicle.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2016 #75

    I don't think there's any point in stipulating which gear to use. Manuals are capable of doing well over 5mph in 1st gear and some autos only have ratios rather than actual gears. Anyway, who's going to check which gear you're using?

    If someone goes over 5 mph in 1st gear the engine will be over-revving, therefore it will be obvious that a greater speed is being used. As for auto boxes, it is very easy to put a lock on and it will stay in 1st gear and therefore will have the same effect
    as in a manual vehicle.

    Over revving in excess of 5mph? Hardly - some fo 5mph on tickover. 

    The actual gear, or ratio, is pretty meaningless, Ian. 

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2016 #76

    If I put mine in 2nd on tickover I would be probably about 8 or 9 mph at a guess. Probably about 14 or so in third. In first no need to touch the throttle if content with 4mph which I am

  • Wildwood
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    edited August 2016 #77

    5 mph is about the speed the car does in first gear without any use of the accelerator and any down slope will take it over that. It is difficult to keep under 5 but I think it is realy the 10 mph plus that the club is worried about. We all know that whhatever
    speed is suggested some people will go just over it so you have to err on the low side.

    Whatever speed you say though there are some idiots who will do what they like.

  • chasncath
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    edited August 2016 #78

    On a similar thread, back in the days when FandGW ( fang) would stir things up, it was said that it was impossible to look down at your speedometer and to drive slowly and safely around a site at the same time.

    If the campsite speed limit is 'Walking Pace' then most drivers/ most vehicles could comply. It's easy to judge your speed against this criterion, and easy for others to judge whether it's being exceeded.

    If, however, you're trying to keep up with a C&CC warden on their bike or a 'saisionerre' on a golf cart guiding you to your pitch, it's hard not to be left behindHappy

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2016 #79

    What's a saisionerre on a golf cart? That's a new one on CC sites, isn't it?

  • chasncath
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    edited August 2016 #80

    Saisonniere (fr) - a seasonal worker. You don't get them on CC sites - sorry for taking liberties on the UK sites thread. They are usually young folk working on campsites in the summer. They drive around on golfcarts at high speed, showing punters to their pitches or mobile homes: they speed because they are young and in a hurryLaughing

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2016 #81

    What's a saisionerre on a golf cart? That's a new one on CC sites, isn't it?

    Saisonniere (fr) - a seasonal worker. You don't get them on CC sites - sorry for taking liberties on the UK sites thread. They are usually young folk working on campsites in the summer. They drive around on golfcarts at high speed, showing punters to their
    pitches or mobile homes: they speed because they are young and in a hurryLaughing

    Ah, overseas. Thankyou for explaining. You obviously experience mayhem over there. Thank goodness we (mostly) abide by the 5mph speed limit on site.