Have the club adopted a new approach to speeding
On arrival at a club site one is not only told of the 5mph rule but also given a highlighted page with the speed limit on it. It seems the new approach is, we have told you, we have given you the speed controls in writing, SO if you wish to ignore the speed
limit and an accident happens then the club can wash its hands of the matter.
Given the members on this club site who seem to think that 20mph plus is really 5mph this seems to mean wardens have a cop out and insurers are covered. Anther tick in the H & S box.
When will wardens bite the bullet and stop the idiots speeding as they do every day
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Are you having a happy holiday?
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As soon as they both catch & be capable of proving folk were speeding. Until then it's hearsay & conjecture
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What's more it contradicts statements made on here by wardens.
Still at Sandringham, W&J? Enjoy!
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Nothing as complicated as a speed gun needed.
Wardens have a tape measure (even if only six meters long) and can measure distance between features on a roadway, such as humps or joints in the tarmac. Five mile an hour is seven feet and four inches in one second, so the equipment needed is but the video
camera on a smartphone.That would probably be good enough evidence for a court of criminal law these days, and definately enough for whatever sanction the "Club" might employ.
Me, I go for "Wardens' Discretion" to bump them of the site straight away with refund conspicuously donated to a local charity.
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Nothing as complicated as a speed gun needed.
Wardens have a tape measure (even if only six meters long) and can measure distance between features on a roadway, such as humps or joints in the tarmac. Five mile an hour is seven feet and four inches in one second, so the equipment needed is but the video
camera on a smartphone.That would probably be good enough evidence for a court of criminal law these days, and definately enough for whatever sanction the "Club" might employ.
Me, I go for "Wardens' Discretion" to bump them of the site straight away with refund conspicuously donated to a local charity.
agree with that last sentence 100%
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...but they dont.....isnt this W&J's point....abdication of (on site) responsibility?
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Having been given the information if caught you can no longer say you did not know. The reminder might also help remind some people and slow them down a bit. At the end of the day nothing short of banning them will make any difference to some though.
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Maybe the club could buy up a job lot of speed cameras which councils have decided to switch off and install these at club sites?
Seriously, I agree something has to be done about excess speed on sites - it's the one rule I would hope to see upheld above all others.
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Relatively new to the site (this time round) previously we were members for around 15+ years but we have been out of action for Several years!
People braking the 5MPH limit really brings it home to you when you have a 9 & 6 Year old playing outside. We are 6 Days and 3 CC sites in to ur 14 Day tour of the West
Highlands and I cannot believe the speed some cars/units/Motorhomes travel on site!I don’t want to get involved in politics! Nor do I want to see sites covered in Seeping Policemen
any more than they are already as I am sure most people don’t but at what cost!!!0 -
I am not by any means diminishing the danger of speeding especially where children are likely to be playing but the only times i have seen anyone speeding on site the cars generally had child passengers..... Unfortunately however the OP is not helping their
case with the tone and content of their threads and posts, not quite sure what they get out of caravanning however my suggestion is chill out and if you have any rule infringement concerns perhaps raising them at the time with the site warden will prove more
effective? I am with DaveFL2.......0 -
Given the members on this club site who seem to think that 20mph plus is really 5mph
From personal experience only 20mph is unusual. Many are over 5mph but not that far over. They may well not be members either.
Rarely do wardens challenge - I think they ought to do more on this including making people leave if they persist - but they would have to have evidence. I dont believe a smartphone video would hold up in court or the police would not spend money on calibrated
speed guns. More to the point they would also have to have the backing of the club and I think this is very unlikely to happen.Name and shame boards just might help but even on here there have been several people who say it is impossible to drive at 5mph.
Ultimately the club may could build car parks on every site and insist on cars being left in them which would be a very negative thing IMO as it would lose pitches and make everything more difficult.
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This question of speeding on sites never gets a mention in the Overseas Touring section. So are the sites different over there, or do we have two different sorts of Club member? I suspect the latter.
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This question of speeding on sites never gets a mention in the Overseas Touring section. So are the sites different over there, or do we have two different sorts of Club member? I suspect the latter.
laissez faire?
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There was no one speeding at Rosedale Abbey during our stay.
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We caravan in Europe every year and must say I only remember 1 instance of speeding on site and that was an Irish Traveller staying on a site who was working on the roads in the area. Needless to say other Campers were flagging hIm to slow down. I think
generally drivers in Europe abide my driving rules more than the Brits I am sad to say.DianneT
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As I see some confusing arising on this issue I want to state clearly that I am against vehicles travelling above walking pace on sites because IT IS DANGEROUS TO OTHERS, and not because it infringes any rule(s).
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When new arrivals on sites are on their 2nd or 3rd lap trying to find "the" pitch getting faster each lap they nearly always "forget " the c/van on the hook after clearing the speed humps
Write your comments here...its like the cycling sprint, slow for the first lap trying to play it cool not rushing, next lap confirming if it s pitch A or B is the best then final lap an all out sprint to make sure no one pinches the desired pitch. Set up
then sit back and then start thinking maybe the other pitch was better after all :-)0 -
When new arrivals on sites are on their 2nd or 3rd lap trying to find "the" pitch getting faster each lap they nearly always "forget " the c/van on the hook after clearing the speed humps
Write your comments here...its like the cycling sprint, slow for the first lap trying to play it cool not rushing, next lap confirming if it s pitch A or B is the best then final lap an all out sprint to make sure no one pinches the desired pitch. Set up
then sit back and then start thinking maybe the other pitch was better after all :-)Write your comments here...
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Hi all,
I've removed personal attacks on other members from this thread. Please could I remind everyone to stick to the community guidelines when posting.
If anyone has any concerns or queries about people speeding on sites, please remember to alert the Warden on site.
Thank you
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I am sure somebody will say "what about the queue at reception at 12.00"
But I like the idea DD
easy, just arrive at 11
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As I have said many times. All new arrivals should given a reserved marker and be made to
walk around the site to chose their pitch. No two or three laps, no lap of honour and no speeding, and all mobility buggies should be fitted with a speed limiter before being allowed on site.Good idea but not practical - with some of the more rambling sites some members might be literally hours walking round to choose a pitch whilst their caravan is clogging up the entry road.
Then you have the scenario where Mr Smith puts his reserved on pitch 10. Mr Bean then arrives, fancies pitch 10, has a quick shuftie round to see if anyone is looking then whips off Mr Smith's marker and pops his own in place, sticking Mr Smith on pitch
9 and hoping he will put it down to a senior moment.Would the reserved markers be unique to each member? If not there would be the problem of whose marker it was too.
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