Serviced pitches
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Oh Dear, BB read my post i am for once in complete agreement with you!!
oh dear Jeff, read my post, i was responding to BMB, not you
BTW, arent we always in agreement...
No BB it was actually praise for you not as a reply for my post but as an indicator that we both thought the same sorry for the confusion
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No Probs, just people tend to get this caravan v motorhome thing and to me its about practicality of services for the whole membership, i dont care what unit they have as the chances are i will probably have an R/V in the next few years( depending on pension
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why design something thats only ok for some to be able to use?
What, you mean like no-facility sites?
Why can't you use non-facility sites?
We could but choose not to - but for people who do not have onboard facilities there is not an option. Many smaller/older campers and caravans dont have onboard showers for example. If all sites had facilities those who didnt want them would just not use
them - like we do with play areas, veg prep rooms, leaflet areas etcMany older caravanners were used to having a strip down wash rather than a shower! I have caravanned for around 35 years and I am well versed in strip down wash. Only had onboard shower facilities for the last 12 years. So you could use them as you say but
choose not to. There are many commercial all singing and dancing sites that I could use to but choose not to!0 -
They also add value to the pitching area, At £24.50 a week extra,
So the cost to everyone would go up if all pitches were serviced - and the cost of club pitches is already something that is very regularly cited on the forum as too high. Making it higher is not catering to demand.
In our experience they are difficult to book,
Twice in the last year we have had to book serviced pitches because nothing else was available. We didnt want it as the location is not usually what we want but they were all that was available. Papgeno has commented the same thing happened to
him so considering there are usually less than a dozen on most sites compared to maybe 70 normal pitches (using the site we were on as the example) that doesnt bear out that they are difficult to book.Agree with your last statement, bmb. We were on the Durham site last year and the majority of serviced pitches were unoccupied although the site was about 1/3rd full.
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Dont see any problems with non facilities sites and no shower in unit as long as there is the correct 6metres air gap between units.lol it has been known for me to be away two months without a shower, never had a complaint
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They also add value to the pitching area, At £24.50 a week extra,
So the cost to everyone would go up if all pitches were serviced - and the cost of club pitches is already something that is very regularly cited on the forum as too high. Making it higher is not catering to demand.
In our experience they are difficult to book,
Twice in the last year we have had to book serviced pitches because nothing else was available. We didnt want it as the location is not usually what we want but they were all that was available. Papgeno has commented the same thing happened to him so considering there are usually less than a dozen on most sites compared to maybe 70 normal pitches (using the site we were on as the example) that doesnt bear out that they are difficult to book.
Agree with your last statement, bmb. We were on the Durham site last year and the majority of serviced pitches were unoccupied although the site was about 1/3rd full.
Deep pockets short arms and a need to keep a sense of perspective comes to mind
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I expect the arguments that come up about serviced pitches now are very similar to the ones that came up when it was proposed to have electric points on pitches. As far as I am concerned I would prefer to have a serviced pitch to a shower block, dishwasherine
area, or laundry, because I don't use them although the cost of building and maintaining them is is included in my pitch fee, But everyone has a different view and we need to cater for everyone. My forecast is that eventually all pitches will be serviced
because that is the way the market is going with commercial site and CL's leading the way. Hopefully the club will catch up soon.0 -
I expect the arguments that come up about serviced pitches now are very similar to the ones that came up when it was proposed to have electric points on pitches. As far as I am concerned I would prefer to have a serviced pitch to a shower block, dishwasherine
area, or laundry, because I don't use them although the cost of building and maintaining them is is included in my pitch fee, But everyone has a different view and we need to cater for everyone. My forecast is that eventually all pitches will be serviced
because that is the way the market is going with commercial site and CL's leading the way. Hopefully the club will catch up soon.A few twars ago we staye at Gwern a Bwlch non facility site and were also staying at a national trust none facility site for 5 nights followed by yet another non facility site for 5 nights and so did include a 2 night stop on a CC site after the first site
to use washing machines. We were probably on a 5 week tour. We cary enough clothes for 2 weeks but thought that 17 nights would stretch it too much0 -
As for the OP, we have used serviced pitches without hooking up - both in caravans and the RV. We dont use them of choice so have never expended money to buy the kit to hook the caravan up. The RV we did buy the connectors so if we were on fully serviced pitches (as opposed to the club's partially serviced) we could hook up and take advantage.
I am not sure I understand this, in what way are they partially serviced? They all have water and waste. The only one with individual CDP points is Chatsworth. These cannot generally be linked to, as the majority of European vans and MH have a toilet cassette, so no black water dumping, as in the US, is possible. It does of course mean there is much less distance to carry it, especially on our van where the cassette is on the back.
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I am not sure I understand this, in what way are they partially serviced? They all have water and waste. The only one with individual CDP points is Chatsworth. These cannot generally be linked to, as the majority of European vans and MH have a toilet cassette, so no black water dumping, as in the US, is possible. It does of course mean there is much less distance to carry it, especially on our van where the cassette is on the back.
Fully serviced haas black waste and grey waste as well as fresh water. On CC sites the black and grey waste both goes into the MH service point but the 'serviced' pitches are just grey waste so you still have to leave the pitch to deal with black waste - thus not fully serviced.
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Fully serviced haas black waste and grey waste as well as fresh water. On CC sites the black and grey waste both goes into the MH service point but the 'serviced' pitches are just grey waste so you still have to leave the pitch to deal with black waste
- thus not fully serviced.Not a motorhomer, so forgive the off topic post. I thought most MH toilets were just like a caravan, in that they had a cassette. I thought this had to be taken to the CDP point. I have only rarely seen these at MH disposal points. although I admit I have
not taken much notice. So admittedly if there is no CDP on the pitch, it is a bit further to carry or wheel it, but no need to move the MH surely? Out of interest, as we mainly stay at CC and AS sites, and have only come across Chatswoth with CDP on pitch.
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Some MHs have tanks for toilet waste, Steve, but they are rare. The vast majority have the same toilets as caravans with cassettes. They do, though, have grey and fresh water tanks.
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I did see an RV dumping at a UK site recently and it was not pretty. He used 2 x 10’ sections of 4" pipe and dropped the end in the hole. There were two rushes, one the waste coming out and spraying the operator and surroundings, and the second the fast departure of the audience, including me
...I wonder if it was his first attempt?a 4inch collect and dump pipe is standard on UK tankers and Honey wagons,at least he did not have the m/van shuffle to get the stupid system as fitted to most
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I think he was using the correct kit but the receptical was not really designed for the large flow and pressure. Lets just say there was a significant backwash.
Just think of the mess with an open grid system. No on second thoughts I'd rather not.
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I did see an RV dumping at a UK site recently and it was not pretty. He used 2 x 10’ sections of 4" pipe and dropped the end in the hole. There were two rushes, one the waste coming out and spraying the operator and surroundings, and the second the fast
departure of the audience, including me...I wonder if it was his first attempt?a 4inch collect and dump pipe is standard on UK tankers and Honey wagons
I think he was using the correct kit but the receptical was not really designed for the large flow and pressure. Lets just say there was a significant backwash.
...He opened the tap to quickly
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