Serviced pitches
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On most sites there is no such thing as a "disabled pitch", no particular pitches set aside all the time
Strange - on several sites we visit regularly the same pitches are marked as disabled every time and are sometimes in use and sometimes empty.
several are no facility as the Club is not permitted to add facilities.
Then nothing can be done to these - presumably they dont have serviced pitches either? But where they can have basic facilities - ie shower and toilets - I think all club sites should have them.
I am all for adding more serviced pitches to all sites, gives the members more choice.
Yes it does,but at a high cost to all members. You could argue all sites should have swimming pools or anything else, but the cost is disproportionate to the benefit - I see more service pitches in the same way.
...The same as the High cost of "upgrading" m/van service points to cater for poor design of m/van waste outlets
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They also add value to the pitching area, At £24.50 a week extra,
So the cost to everyone would go up if all pitches were serviced - and the cost of club pitches is already something that is very regularly cited on the forum as too high. Making it higher is not catering to demand.
In our experience they are difficult to book,
Twice in the last year we have had to book serviced pitches because nothing else was available. We didnt want it as the location is not usually what we want but they were all that was available. Papgeno has commented the same thing happened to
him so considering there are usually less than a dozen on most sites compared to maybe 70 normal pitches (using the site we were on as the example) that doesnt bear out that they are difficult to book.I certainly was not advocating that all pitches should be serviced, just stating why the club may be adding more. As I think with the Freshwater and Whitewater refurbs and certainly at Brecon. As to how easy they are to book, I can only speak from our experience.
However, I don't think the club would be increasing the number if they were not popular.I think that most of the newer sites (Barnard Castle, Bridlington..) that have been opened recently have had a number of services and non service pitches, but the service pitches are usually small, so this practice may continue.
On sites that have them they do seem to go first, perhaps this is due to their small number v ordinary pitches? At any rate they do seem popular and well used
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The same as the High cost of "upgrading" m/van service points to cater for poor design of m/van waste outlets
Possibly so - we have had a m/van and had no difficulties with waste on club sites so I cant really comment on the need for upgrading.
Englethwaite Hall near Carlisle has serviced pitches, additional ones were added a few years back too.
Do they not have a facilities block by choice or by restriction? On no facility sites serviced pitches would be more logical I suppose.. Seems a contradiction that the 'we love basic sites because we dont need facilities' people would want service pitches though.
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The same as the High cost of "upgrading" m/van service points to cater for poor design of m/van waste outlets
Possibly so - we have had a m/van and had no difficulties with waste on club sites so I cant really comment on the need for upgrading.
Englethwaite Hall near Carlisle has serviced pitches, additional ones were added a few years back too.
Do they not have a facilities block by choice or by restriction? On no facility sites serviced pitches would be more logical I suppose.. Seems a contradiction that the 'we love basic sites because we dont need facilities' people would want
service pitches though....On no facility sites ,it would add even more to the costs as most are not on mains drainage,and a serviced pitch as in most things "easy/lazy" would probably use more water =waste meaning add visits by the "honey wagons"
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Answers not unexpected. No I don't expect the wardens to evict people, and I don't know what the answer is. I do know that I have been denied the use of serviced pitches by others who are not using the services. Whatever your view regarding "paid your money" , it is inconsiderate to take a pitch that you don't need denying it to those who do.
Perhaps the CC should provide more serviced pitches, but then there would be moans about the extra cost of using them.
Do you really expect the Wardens to refuse people access to those pitches just incase you turn up expecting a serviced pitch. If people are willing to pay extra for the pitch whether or not they use that facilities it is their choice. No different to caravans on awning pitches with no awning. Live and let live
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Englethwaite Hall near Carlisle has serviced pitches, additional ones were added a few years back too.
Do they not have a facilities block by choice or by restriction? On no facility sites serviced pitches would be more logical I suppose.. Seems a contradiction that the 'we love basic sites because we dont need facilities' people would want
service pitches though.I do not think everyone who uses basic no facility sites falls into that category.
We have used a few no facility sites just because they were where they were......in an area we wanted to visit.
In the case of some of these CC sites there are no or very few alternative sites.
In the case of Englethwaite I believe it is due to restriction. It is a very popular site.
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it wouldnt matter one jot how a MH waste pipe were designed if you still had to lift a heavy manhole cover to dump your grey waste...
But again, lifting a manhole cover is only a problem to some people with M/H not all.
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the reasons why members book awning pitches, along with tbe fact that it guarantees them a hardstanding.
Err - no! Not every awning pitch on the site network is hard standing. Why would they be?
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it wouldnt matter one jot how a MH waste pipe were designed if you still had to lift a heavy manhole cover to dump your grey waste...
But again, lifting a manhole cover is only a problem to some people with M/H not all.
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Serviced pitches will in time become compulsory due to the slight chance of infection from carting drinking water and waste around - not to mention the "unmentionables" in the chemical closets!
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Serviced pitches will in time become compulsory due to the slight chance of infection from carting drinking water and waste around - not to mention the "unmentionables" in the chemical closets!
Write your comments here... possibly in time, IF we had stayed in the EU, not likely now,
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the reasons why members book awning pitches, along with tbe fact that it guarantees them a hardstanding.
Err - no! Not every awning pitch on the site network is hard standing. Why would they be?
Write your comments here... I have a M/H, and if possible i always book an awning pitch, reasons 99.9% of the time that means a hard standing (i usually check the site maps before booking) and if we decide to wind out awning/canopy we can do so without getting out a tape measure to check if its ok. I do not feel i am depriving anyone of anything. Why should users of service pitches ? We all take what is available when we arrive, what could be fairer ?
Dont find manhole covers a problem, yet, but might one day.
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Serviced pitches will in time become compulsory due to the slight chance of infection from carting drinking water and waste around - not to mention the "unmentionables" in the chemical closets!
Write your comments here... possibly in time, IF we had stayed in the EU, not likely now,
..Thats a relief,
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Serviced pitches will in time become compulsory due to the slight chance of infection from carting drinking water and waste around - not to mention the "unmentionables" in the chemical closets!
Write your comments here... possibly in time, IF we had stayed in the EU, not likely now,
..Thats a relief,
but could you see mainland eu complying anywayHaving seen the way some campers treat the service points and MHSPs, I prefer my own tap when possible, especially abroad!
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I think he meant 'serviced' pitches.
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why design something thats only ok for some to be able to use?
What, you mean like no-facility sites?
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why design something thats only ok for some to be able to use?
What, you mean like no-facility sites?
Why can't you use non-facility sites?
We could but choose not to - but for people who do not have onboard facilities there is not an option. Many smaller/older campers and caravans dont have onboard showers for example. If all sites had facilities those who didnt want them would just not use them - like we do with play areas, veg prep rooms, leaflet areas etc
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lets be fair here when the waste disposal for motorhomes was introduced on club sites it was Not Designed it was an afterthought. However with the increase of motorhomes something should be done as some of the waste disposal and filling points are a total waste of space, vehicle having to drive the wrong way to dump waste and fill up, having to lift heavy grids , its a joke in this day and age and would not take a vast amount of money to correct!!. P.S. before anybody comments on another motor homer wanting more services i am a caravanner who just sees it as it is
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why design something thats only ok for some to be able to use?
What, you mean like no-facility sites?
Why can't you use non-facility sites?
We could but choose not to - but for people who do not have onboard facilities there is not an option. Many smaller/older campers and caravans dont have onboard showers for example.
i must have missed the point here....whats this got to do with the club deploying manhole covers which are heavy and awkward to use?
the manhole covers are physically difficult for some of our members to use.....the club has chosen for it to be so....it could easily (and cheaply) be made so much better. apparently there is a 20 yr plan to review them.....god knows how long to actually do something
...Reversing a c/van onto a pitch is a problem for some,but have yet to note any "moans" from them that the cc or any other site operator needs to supply equipment to assist the less able,
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i must have missed the point here....whats this got to do with the club deploying manhole covers which are heavy and awkward to use?
It was just an example of another aspect of club provision which is OK for some members but produces difficulties for some others.
As for the OP, we have used serviced pitches without hooking up - both in caravans and the RV. We dont use them of choice so have never expended money to buy the kit to hook the caravan up. The RV we did buy the connectors so if we were on fully serviced pitches (as opposed to the club's partially serviced) we could hook up and take advantage.
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