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  • Wildwood
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    edited August 2016 #62

    We have used serviced pitches on one site because we like them better but on another took one as it was all that was available although that is unusual as they seem to go first on many sites.

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2016 #63

    Of course the real answer is for the club to provide more service pitches and on every club site. I notice that a lot of commercial sites are providing a large number of service pitches. A site I use in France over the last couple of years have converted
    all their pitches to serviced ones. Yet again the club are slow on the uptake and failing members by not providing what is expected Or required.I know it will cost money but what do we pay membership and high site fees for? I must admit to a vested interest
    as beng disabled it makes caravaning easier for both me and my wife As I'm sure it would for many other members..

    Have to disagree totally here - I think the money spent on adding services to all pitches or even to a few would be much better spent on other things like financing new sites or adding toilet blocks to sites which dont currently have them.  Most sites already
    have some serviced pitches - possibly all disabled pitches should be serviced - but other than that please dont spend the money on making all pitches serviced.

    My favourite sites are the no facility ones.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited August 2016 #64

    Same here EasyT, and I know of others who think the same.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited August 2016 #65

    Same here EasyT, and I know of others who think the same.

    Another one here that doesn't want all pitches serviced. What a waste of money doing that. Keep it to just a portion of the site for those who want to pay the extra, would be nice to have some pitches without EHU at a reduction in price off course Wink we
    do use sites in the low season, but starting to use more CL's and non facilities sites.

  • rayjsj
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    edited August 2016 #66

    Just returned from Exebridge lakeside. Great site. 

    There are 8 serviced pitches, all in use ( one by me). However, of the 8 pitches in use, only 4 occupants were using the water and drainage connections. What is that about? Surely these people should be stopped from preventing other members accessing the
    services?

    Before anyone replies about wanting hard standings, there are a substantial number of hard standings here, many of them empty. Why on earth pay extra for the services and then not use them, also inconveniencing members who do want the services?

    Grumpy 

     

    Write your comments here...surely if they paid the extra costs of a service pitch it is their business whether they decide to use them or not.....not yours.

    Being a motorhomer with inbuilt tanks, serviced pitches are of no interest to me, a hardstanding if possible, and an EHU hopefully and i am happy. Why should my membership fee go on facilities i will never use ? However we are a Club, so consideration for
    members who have difficulty transporting their fresh and waste water, means that some serviced pitches per site are desirable, as are motorhome service points.  

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2016 #67

     

     

    The no facilities sites are popular with many as they give them a chance to use a well cared for site at a lower cost, and several are no facility as the Club is not permitted to add facilities.

     

    I use non-facility sites when the option presents itself on a tour simply because I find them pleasant sites and the cost is not the reason. For some reason they seem more relaxed and, indeed, some are very popular. When one goes or is upgraded they are sadly unlikely to be replaced with a non facility site. 

     

    Edited to add - I forgot that I replied to this post yesterday Embarassed

  • IamtheGaitor
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    edited August 2016 #68

    On most sites there is no such thing as a "disabled pitch", no particular pitches set aside all the time

    Strange - on  several sites we visit regularly the same pitches are marked as disabled every time and are sometimes in use and sometimes empty.

    several are no facility as the Club is not permitted to add facilities.

    Then nothing can be done to these - presumably they dont have serviced pitches either? But where they can have basic facilities - ie shower and toilets - I think all club sites should have them. 

    I am all for adding more serviced pitches to all sites, gives the members more choice.

    Yes it does,but at a high cost to all members.  You could argue all sites should have swimming pools or anything else, but the cost is disproportionate to the benefit - I see more service pitches in the same way.

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2016 #69

     

    Then nothing can be done to these - presumably they dont have serviced pitches either? But where they can have basic facilities - ie shower and toilets - I think all club sites should have them. 

    And I disagree. Hands off our much loved non facility sites. 

  • IamtheGaitor
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    edited August 2016 #70

    And I disagree. Hands off our much loved non facility sites.

    I am sure they are lovely because they are quiet - this would apply to most sites that they are nicer when not full. In business terms though, these sites are underused as they often have spaces when most sites are full so they are economically dubious
    perhaps.  Surely that would indicate to HQ that adding basic facilities if it is allowed would make them more appealing to many members.

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2016 #71

    Have you been on many Bmbonanza?

    No not underused in many cases. In fact some are very well utilised. Bourton on the Water and Cae Mawr in Anglesey both show as fully booked this weekend. Both have around 70 pitches. Both have been well used when we have visited them

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  • EasyT
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    edited August 2016 #73

    I notice that Hebden Bridge is also fully booked this weekend but that is a smaller site of 42 pitches. I has also been very close to full whenever I have visited it

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2016 #74

    On most sites there is no such thing as a "disabled pitch", no particular pitches set aside all the time

    Strange - on  several sites we visit regularly the same pitches are marked as disabled every time and are sometimes in use and sometimes empty.

     

    It seems to vary. Some sites have pitches that often have a disabled sign on, although they may move about when we are not there. At one site as we were packing up the warden came and put a disabled sign on our pitch. As he was intending to allocate it as
    such.

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2016 #75

     

    I am all for adding more serviced pitches to all sites, gives the members more choice.

    Yes it does,but at a high cost to all members.  You could argue all sites should have swimming pools or anything else, but the cost is disproportionate to the benefit - I see more service pitches in the same way.

    If they are installed as part of a general refurb the costs would be minimised, plus once installed they require minimum maintenance and supervision, unlike a pool. They also add value to the pitching area, At £24.50 a week extra, the club is getting the
    equivalent of another standard night fee per pitch, every week they are occupied. In our experience they are difficult to book, unless you do so well in advance. It would seem the club is simply catering to a demand. Something that is often requested on this
    forum.

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2016 #76

    Supplying water would not be a high cost. The drainage works would be the problem. 

  • papgeno
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    edited August 2016 #77

    We were on a serviced pitch at Troutbeck ,not through choice but because it was the only one left when we booked. I didn't hook up to the water or the drainage but it was handy to have both close by. Shoot me now!

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2016 #78

    We were on a serviced pitch at Troutbeck ,not through choice but because it was the only one left when we booked. I didn't hook up to the water or the drainage but it was handy to have both close by. Shoot me now!

    Given the location of the serviced pitches at Troutbeck Head one could suggest anyone taking them deserves a discount!! Wink. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

  • IamtheGaitor
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    edited August 2016 #79

    They also add value to the pitching area, At £24.50 a week extra,

    So the cost to everyone would go up if all pitches were serviced - and the cost of club pitches is already something that is very regularly cited on the forum as too high.  Making it higher is not catering to demand.

    In our experience they are difficult to book,

    Twice in the last year we have had to book serviced pitches because nothing else was available. We didnt want it as the location is not usually what we want but they were all that was available. Papgeno has commented the same thing happened to him so considering there are usually less than a dozen on most sites compared to maybe 70 normal pitches (using the site we were on as the example) that doesnt bear out that they are difficult to book.

  • Briang
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    We were on a serviced pitch at Troutbeck ,not through choice but because it was the only one left when we booked. I didn't hook up to the water or the drainage but it was handy to have both close by. Shoot me now!

    Given the location of the serviced pitches at Troutbeck Head one could suggest anyone taking them deserves a discount!!

    Wink. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

    What is wrong with the service pitches in Troutbeck head.

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2016 #81

    I don't think there's anything wrong with the serviced pitches themselves, Bri, although we've never used them when we stay there. It's the location, away from the main site and lacking the  more spectacular views of Blencathra that you get from lower down
    on the site. Happy

  • Briang
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    edited August 2016 #82

    Thanks Moulesy, we are off to troutbeck in October for 10 nights but not on a service pitch. Which are the better pitches to stay on for the views?

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2016 #83

    Bri - we stayed on one of the pitches down near the bottom of the site ( if I can find the map I'll let you know the number so you can see which area I'm talking about). It had spectacular evening views over towards Blencathra and, when we stayed, a bit of added interest watching the sheep shearers at work. It does back onto the activity centre though which can be a little noisy at times, but not enough to spoil your stay unless you're really noise intolerant! Happy

    And while you're there it's worth making the short drive up to Threlkeld one evening for a meal at the Horse & Farrier which is excellent.

    (Just checked, we were on pitch 84, any of the pitches in that little area will give you great views! Happy)

  • JillwithaJay
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    edited August 2016 #84

    Haven't been to Troutbeck this year but we liked the pitches on the higher level.  If you look at the Troutbeck booking page, you'll get an idea of the layout and view available.  

    Personal choice of course but we like Pitch 82 or 129 - 133.

    Just seen your edit Moulesy and agree about that area of the site.

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2016 #85

    BTW on Troutbeck, some interesting points;

    you'll see a lot of van parked nose in to get the views, so those that don't like 'this sort of thing' be warned!

    when we first started going there (2001) the service pitches were all statics, (only two remain now which are used by the wardens), that's why there are so many service pitches the plumbing was already there.

     

    we'll be there in a few days time, our favourite site

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2016 #86

    We were on a serviced pitch at Troutbeck ,not through choice but because it was the only one left when we booked. I didn't hook up to the water or the drainage but it was handy to have both close by. Shoot me now!

    Given the location of the serviced pitches at Troutbeck Head one could suggest anyone taking them deserves a discount!! Wink. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

    What is wrong with the service pitches in Troutbeck head.

    This is our frequent flyer site and been thre many, many times. We even had a few seasons on (off peak) seasonal pitches.we always use the service pitches, there is nothing wrong with them at all, most, if not all, are bigger than non service pitches (they were static caravan pitches) and easily take car, van, and awning with lots of space around them. However, it doesn't look like it on the map but there is an incline along rows 1 to 10 and pitches 21 & 36 onwards are quite high up and a little walk to the toilet block. But they are usually very quiet and not used off peak and very near to the dog walk/forrest, so use them if you like privacy and/or have dogs. The service pitches do not have the great views, but it's up to you to decide if that is important to you, we've been there so many times it isn't.

    site map here. Pitches 129 - 133 are the most sought after for the views, again it doesn't show on the site plan but on pitches 76 onwards the van roofs are actually below you so that's where the great views are.

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2016 #87

    Last time we were at Troutbeck ,the "new assistant wardens" were being "trained/passed out" on the use of mowers /hedge trimmers etc,its was quite interestingto see what "safety" measures were being used ,compared to what happens in real life site maintainanceSurprisedWink, I agree with some about the serviced pitches we would not choose one  Frownits a lovely site in a beutifull areaCool

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2016 #88

    Not at all my cup of tea the location of Troutbeck serviced pitches

  • KjellNN
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    edited August 2016 #89

    On most sites there is no such thing as a "disabled pitch", no particular pitches set aside all the time

    Strange - on  several sites we visit regularly the same pitches are marked as disabled every time and are sometimes in use and sometimes empty.

     

    It seems to vary. Some sites have pitches that often have a disabled sign on, although they may move about when we are not there. At one site as we were packing up the warden came and put a disabled sign on our pitch. As he was intending to allocate it as
    such.

    Many years back, all sites had a handful of pitches permanently marked with the little "wheelchair"  sign, and when you booked on-line you could request a "disabled" pitch.

    These pitches were set aside for this purpose and only taken into general use  when the site was very full.

    Several years back the policy was changed, there were no longer designated disabled pitches and the facility to book them was removed.  The reservation of a pitch near the facilities is now down to the warden.

    Some wardens do set aside a few pitches, but mainly it will just be what is available on the day.  To request a pitch you have to ring the site directly and discuss your requirements with the warden.  The warden will then look at which pitches are being
    vacated on the day of your arrival, and place the "wheelchair" sign on the nearest pitch available.

    If they have several requests, several signs or cones will be set out, and when you arrive you will have the choice of all the pitches availsble.  All the pitches.....not just the marked ones.  There is no need to use a designated pitch if you would prefer
    a different one.

  • KjellNN
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    edited August 2016 #90



    several are no facility as the Club is not permitted to add facilities.

    Then nothing can be done to these - presumably they dont have serviced pitches either? But where they can have basic facilities - ie shower and toilets - I think all club sites should have them. 



    Englethwaite Hall near Carlisle has serviced pitches, additional ones were added a few years back too.

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2016 #91

    They also add value to the pitching area, At £24.50 a week extra,

    So the cost to everyone would go up if all pitches were serviced - and the cost of club pitches is already something that is very regularly cited on the forum as too high.  Making it higher is not catering to demand.

    In our experience they are difficult to book,

    Twice in the last year we have had to book serviced pitches because nothing else was available. We didnt want it as the location is not usually what we want but they were all that was available. Papgeno has commented the same thing happened to
    him so considering there are usually less than a dozen on most sites compared to maybe 70 normal pitches (using the site we were on as the example) that doesnt bear out that they are difficult to book.

    I certainly was not advocating that all pitches should be serviced, just stating why the club may be adding more. As I think with the Freshwater and Whitewater refurbs and certainly at Brecon. As to how easy they are to book, I can only speak from our experience.
    However, I don't think the club would be increasing  the number if they were not popular.