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  • moulesy
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    edited August 2016 #32

    No Ian. Where did I misquote you? Undecided

  • MichaelT
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    edited August 2016 #33

     

    I also said that awning pitches should be charged at a higher rate......I didn't say anything about people having to put an awning up.

    Write your comments here...Why is that Ian?  Awning pithces may be on grass or hard standing unlike service pitches which I think are all HS so why pay more, or perhaps you should intriduce a charging structure per square metre?

  • MichaelT
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    edited August 2016 #34

    I do think some folks should just get out and enjoy their holiday without worrying if someone has connected their aquaroll up to the tap.....

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2016 #35

    We love service pitches and always book them if available. Now we have all the gear,  but the first couple of times it just meant that I hardly had to move the wastemaster to empty it and could fill the Aquaroll quickly with a 10L can. Once we were sure
    we were  going to be using them enough, we bought the equipment, which is not exactly cheap, so you do need to be sure you are going to use it. The folk not connected up could have been at that stage. Not that it matters, everyone is free to use a pitch as
    they see fit within the rules.

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2016 #36

    Your last sentence says it all, Steve! Happy

  • holmesonwheels24
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    edited August 2016 #37

    iI do think some folks should just get out and enjoy their holiday without worrying if someone has connected their aquaroll up to the tap.....

    Write your comments here.You are dead right.on that.

  • holmesonwheels24
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    edited August 2016 #38

    iI do think some folks should just get out and enjoy their holiday without worrying if someone has connected their aquaroll up to the tap.....

    Write your comments here.You are dead right.on that.

  • Metheven
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    edited August 2016 #39

    iI do think some folks should just get out and enjoy their holiday without worrying if someone has connected their aquaroll up to the tap.....

    Write your comments here.You are dead right.on that.

    Yes

  • Metheven
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    edited August 2016 #40

    iI do think some folks should just get out and enjoy their holiday without worrying if someone has connected their aquaroll up to the tap.....

    Write your comments here.You are dead right.on that.

    Yes

  • InaD
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    edited August 2016 #41

    What's happening?  The last 2 posts seem duplicated.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2016 #42

    iI do think some folks should just get out and enjoy their holiday without worrying if someone has connected their aquaroll up to the tap.....

    Write your comments here.You are dead right.on that.

    Yes

    +1

  • IanH
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    edited August 2016 #43

    We love service pitches and always book them if available. Now we have all the gear,  but the first couple of times it just meant that I hardly had to move the wastemaster to empty it and could fill the Aquaroll quickly with a 10L can. Once we were sure
    we were  going to be using them enough, we bought the equipment, which is not exactly cheap, so you do need to be sure you are going to use it. The folk not connected up could have been at that stage. Not that it matters, everyone is free to use a pitch as
    they see fit within the rules.

    That's pretty much what we did Steve - first time we just had a waste hose and I used the tap on the pitch to top up the barrel using a water carrier.

    As I said before, I have no problems with people using a service pitch however they like, but I'm sure that most people would expect them to pay the supplement if they do use a service pitch, wouldn't they?

    So what's the difference with expecting people to pay a supplement for an awning pitch, whether they chose to erect an awning or not? (Or better yet, offering a discount for a non-awning pitch).

  • MichaelT
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    edited August 2016 #44

    We love service pitches and always book them if available. Now we have all the gear,  but the first couple of times it just meant that I hardly had to move the wastemaster to empty it and could fill the Aquaroll quickly with a 10L can. Once we were sure
    we were  going to be using them enough, we bought the equipment, which is not exactly cheap, so you do need to be sure you are going to use it. The folk not connected up could have been at that stage. Not that it matters, everyone is free to use a pitch as
    they see fit within the rules.

    That's pretty much what we did Steve - first time we just had a waste hose and I used the tap on the pitch to top up the barrel using a water carrier.

    As I said before, I have no problems with people using a service pitch however they like, but I'm sure that most people would expect them to pay the supplement if they do use a service pitch, wouldn't they?

    So what's the difference with expecting people to pay a supplement for an awning pitch, whether they chose to erect an awning or not? (Or better yet, offering a discount for a non-awning pitch).

    Write your comments here...but why pay more for an awning pitch I do not get your logic?  Per my earlier post they may be grass and not always bigger than a non awning pitch?

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2016 #45

     

    So what's the difference with expecting people to pay a supplement for an awning pitch, whether they chose to erect an awning or not? (Or better yet, offering a discount for a non-awning pitch).

    I don't have anything against this in principle. However, might this not just be the thin end of a wedge of over complexity. Some sites only have awning pitches but of significantly different sizes, so possibly two charges here. Then if we are ever able to book hardstandings a different charge there. Of course if it is a large hardstanding, or a non awning hardstanding a different charge applies. all this on top of seasonal variations could just cause cerebral meltdown.

  • IanH
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    edited August 2016 #46

    MichaelT - Well, as I said, "better yet, offer a discount for a non-awning pitch".

    And I agree, if this were the case, why pay extra for an awning pitch? I wouldn't.

  • IanH
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    edited August 2016 #47

     

    So what's the difference with expecting people to pay a supplement for an awning pitch, whether they chose to erect an awning or not? (Or better yet, offering a discount for a non-awning pitch).

    I don't have anything against this in principle. However, might this not just be the thin end of a wedge of over complexity. Some sites only have awning pitches but of significantly different sizes, so possibly two charges here. Then if we are ever able
    to book hardstandings a different charge there. Of course if it is a large hardstanding, or a non awning hardstanding a different charge applies. all this on top of seasonal variations could just cause cerebral meltdown.

    Exactly - keep it simple - Non-awning / Awning / Serviced. 

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2016 #48

     

    Exactly - keep it simple - Non-awning / Awning / Serviced. 

    Perhaps you would like to explain your logic. With a service pitch, something extra is supplied, water and waste. A van on a sevice pitch is likely to use more / make more of both, than one on a standard pitch. Awning pitches are often no larger than non awning, it is just the spacing that permits them to be awning. Is your justification for charging more, that they will use more electricity? Possibly true in the colder months.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2016 #49

     

    Exactly - keep it simple - Non-awning / Awning / Serviced. 

    Perhaps you would like to explain your logic. With a service pitch, something extra is supplied, water and waste. A van on a sevice pitch is likely to use more / make more of both, than one on a standard pitch. Awning pitches are often no larger than non awning, it is just the spacing that permits them to be awning. Is your justification for charging more, that they will use more electricity? Possibly true in the colder months.

    Agree, Also you have to remember that some people are just baised against awnings and have posted as such before.

    However not paying for an awning is one of the plus points for the club, look at some non club sites it's sometimes a few pounds per night for an awning! If people complain about club sites being expensive I do ask why they are so keen to make them more expensive for other members, hardly thinking of others is it?

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2016 #50

     

    Exactly - keep it simple - Non-awning / Awning / Serviced. 

    Perhaps you would like to explain your logic. With a service pitch, something extra is supplied, water and waste. A van on a sevice pitch is likely to use more / make more of both, than one on a standard pitch. Awning pitches are often no larger than non
    awning, it is just the spacing that permits them to be awning. Is your justification for charging more, that they will use more electricity? Possibly true in the colder months.

    I have used a serviced pitch rarely. We did for a 10 day break at Cristmas last. Use more water? Doubt it. We don't hook up the water as don't want extra kit. Just handy to have waste and water close although we chose it for a sheltered pitch in a windy
    area at times. We still used site showers. Did the dishes as usual in caravan. Can't see tha twe would have used extra water. Do those on serviced pitches use there own shower more? Either way I suspect that they would not use any more water than using site
    facilities.

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2016 #51

    I can't think of any provider, club or not that distinguishes between awning and non-awning pitches in terms of cost. What they will do is charge extra, sometimes quite considerably, for actually using an awning. The fact you don't pay extra on CC sites
    is a nice perk of being a club member - why would anyone object to that?

  • Fysherman
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    edited August 2016 #52

    Had to read that twice M but I now see your point.Cool

    I agree by the way.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2016 #53

    I can't think of any provider, club or not that distinguishes between awning and non-awning pitches in terms of cost. What they will do is charge extra, sometimes quite considerably, for actually using an awning. The fact you don't pay extra on CC sites
    is a nice perk of being a club member - why would anyone object to that?

    yes, plus 1

  • MJ730
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    edited August 2016 #54

    Im guilty of once using a serviced pitch without all the proper kit,it was soon after coming out of hospital after a heart attack.It meant that I could enjoy the break without having to lug heavy aquoroll/wastemaster far.

    Mike

  • blue
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    Of course the real answer is for the club to provide more service pitches and on every club site. I notice that a lot of commercial sites are providing a large number of service pitches. A site I use in France over the last couple of years have converted
    all their pitches to serviced ones. Yet again the club are slow on the uptake and failing members by not providing what is expected Or required.I know it will cost money but what do we pay membership and high site fees for? I must admit to a vested interest
    as beng disabled it makes caravaning easier for both me and my wife As I'm sure it would for many other members..

  • MichaelT
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    edited August 2016 #56

    Of course the real answer is for the club to provide more service pitches and on every club site. I notice that a lot of commercial sites are providing a large number of service pitches. A site I use in France over the last couple of years have converted
    all their pitches to serviced ones. Yet again the club are slow on the uptake and failing members by not providing what is expected Or required.I know it will cost money but what do we pay membership and high site fees for? I must admit to a vested interest
    as beng disabled it makes caravaning easier for both me and my wife As I'm sure it would for many other members..

    Write your comments here...problem is a lot of people dont want a serviced pitch or are unwilling to pay the extra so like everything else you cant please all the poeple all the time....

  • IamtheGaitor
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    edited August 2016 #57

    Of course the real answer is for the club to provide more service pitches and on every club site. I notice that a lot of commercial sites are providing a large number of service pitches. A site I use in France over the last couple of years have converted
    all their pitches to serviced ones. Yet again the club are slow on the uptake and failing members by not providing what is expected Or required.I know it will cost money but what do we pay membership and high site fees for? I must admit to a vested interest
    as beng disabled it makes caravaning easier for both me and my wife As I'm sure it would for many other members..

    Have to disagree totally here - I think the money spent on adding services to all pitches or even to a few would be much better spent on other things like financing new sites or adding toilet blocks to sites which dont currently have them.  Most sites already
    have some serviced pitches - possibly all disabled pitches should be serviced - but other than that please dont spend the money on making all pitches serviced.

  • JohnM20
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    edited August 2016 #58

    As I see it, what you are paying extra for is for the convenience of services on the pitch. I don't see any reason that one MUST connect to the caravan. I have the kit, used primarily for our trips to France, but on the odd occasion that I have had a serviced
    pitch on a CC site I have used it. SWMBO always finds me alternative chores though. Sad

  • IanH
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    edited August 2016 #59

     

    Exactly - keep it simple - Non-awning / Awning / Serviced. 

    Perhaps you would like to explain your logic. With a service pitch, something extra is supplied, water and waste. A van on a sevice pitch is likely to use more / make more of both, than one on a standard pitch. Awning pitches are often no larger than non
    awning, it is just the spacing that permits them to be awning. Is your justification for charging more, that they will use more electricity? Possibly true in the colder months.

    Yes, that would be a good justification.

    But like I said, my preference would be for a saving for those willing to take non-awning pitches, rather than an extra for awnings. The fees are too high already.

  • KjellNN
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    edited August 2016 #60

    Of course the real answer is for the club to provide more service pitches and on every club site. I notice that a lot of commercial sites are providing a large number of service pitches. A site I use in France over the last couple of years have converted
    all their pitches to serviced ones. Yet again the club are slow on the uptake and failing members by not providing what is expected Or required.I know it will cost money but what do we pay membership and high site fees for? I must admit to a vested interest
    as beng disabled it makes caravaning easier for both me and my wife As I'm sure it would for many other members..

    Have to disagree totally here - I think the money spent on adding services to all pitches or even to a few would be much better spent on other things like financing new sites or adding toilet blocks to sites which dont currently have them.  Most sites already
    have some serviced pitches - possibly all disabled pitches should be serviced - but other than that please dont spend the money on making all pitches serviced.

    On most sites there is no such thing as a "disabled pitch", no particular pitches set aside all the time.

    If you request a pitch close to the disabled  facilities, the pitch the warden "reserves" for you will usually just be the nearest vacant pitch on the day you are due to arrive.

    Disabilities differ, so pitch requirements differ, not all disabled people want to be pitched right next to the toilet block.

    The no facilities sites are popular with many as they give them a chance to use a well cared for site at a lower cost, and several are no facility as the Club is not permitted to add facilities.

    Some no facility sites even have serviced pitches.

    I am all for adding more serviced pitches to all sites, gives the members more choice.

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2016 #61

    Since the fire breaks have been more rigidly enforced , a lot of hardstanding pitches that in the past were awning pitches are now non awning because of the spacing requiremnts, Commons Wood, Rowen Park,Sandringham and Seacroft are some and the non awning hardstands are big with plenty space