Site fees
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Corners, did we cross post?
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great minds?
to be clear I was replying to Ian
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Ah, I guessed so.
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"You pays your money and you makes your choice". Isn't that how the saying goes. Fair enough to criticise CC prices if one thinks they're too high, but to criticise others for accepting them hardly seems logical to me.
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Oh dear! As seems to so often be the case, this whole issue is getting silly. The problem is that more often than not CT is hijacked by the regular group of posters who have an opinion on everything, but mostly think The Club can do no wrong. This was supposed
to be a sensible attempt to draw attention to the fact that an increase of over 22% in one year is really not acceptable. If every member is prepared to sit by and say nothing, or follow the regular posters and accept whatever The Club does, then there will
never be positive reasons to try and make a difference. Is that really the way foreword?Ian has every right to comment on some of the somewhat passive/ negative views of the regular bunch who appear on nearly every thread. Having actually avoided going on line watching CT and been out and about meeting people on site in caravans and motorhomers,
I can assure you that the significant increase in site fees is not well received. However, we are all members of a club and pay an additional fee for that privelidge, so to say "go elsewhere" is not a satisfactory or sensible way forward.0 -
B, that's a rather extraordinary response, if you don't mind me saying so! Would you have preferred it that only anyone agreeing with your view replied? You have every right to raise your concerns; others have an equal right to reply. Criticising them as a "regular group/bunch" who "accept whatever the club does" is a tactic which has been used by others and adds nothing to the debate.
You were concerned about the increases you had to pay; I have some sympathy with that, but at the end of the day, you knew what the price would be and chose to accept it.
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We've spent time in Spain the past few years during the winter. The first thing you notice is the cost of things is so much cheaper - food, bus fares and campsites. Using ACSI you can get a great deal on site fees, with discounts for longer stays. OK,
the facilities aren't as good as the CC, but they've always been acceptable. Yes, there are some shoogly EHU bollards, but the wardens are often there till late at night, even as late as midnight; they usually have a mini-supermarket and often a decent restaurant
on site.CC fees are typical of the UK: high cost, low wage economy.
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Oh dear! As seems to so often be the case, this whole issue is getting silly. The problem is that more often than not CT is hijacked by the regular group of posters who have an opinion on everything, but mostly think The Club can do no wrong. This was supposed
to be a sensible attempt to draw attention to the fact that an increase of over 22% in one year is really not acceptable. If every member is prepared to sit by and say nothing, or follow the regular posters and accept whatever The Club does, then there will
never be positive reasons to try and make a difference. Is that really the way foreword?Ian has every right to comment on some of the somewhat passive/ negative views of the regular bunch who appear on nearly every thread. Having actually avoided going on line watching CT and been out and about meeting people on site in caravans and motorhomers,
I can assure you that the significant increase in site fees is not well received. However, we are all members of a club and pay an additional fee for that privelidge, so to say "go elsewhere" is not a satisfactory or sensible way forward.We are all entitled to our opinions, Brentry, and should be able to state them without fear of ridicule or castigation. Neither should we expect to be referred to as a 'bunch' in less than favourable terms as the Guidelines request that we treat other posters
with respect and remain polite.You have your opinion to which you are fully entitled but why do you condemn those who have different views and perceive CC in another light? As you say, we are all members of a club so why not try treating others as fellow members enjoying the same hobby
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We've spent time in Spain the past few years during the winter. The first thing you notice is the cost of things is so much cheaper - food, bus fares and campsites. Using ACSI you can get a great deal on site fees, with discounts for longer stays. OK,
the facilities aren't as good as the CC, but they've always been acceptable. Yes, there are some shoogly EHU bollards, but the wardens are often there till late at night, even as late as midnight; they usually have a mini-supermarket and often a decent restaurant
on site.CC fees are typical of the UK: high cost, low wage economy.
The last paragraph demonstrates the reason this issue is being discussed in the UK Sites section as what happens in Spain is irrelevant here.
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Oh dear! As seems to so often be the case, this whole issue is getting silly. The problem is that more often than not CT is hijacked by the regular group of posters who have an opinion on everything, but mostly think The Club can do no wrong. This was supposed to be a sensible attempt to draw attention to the fact that an increase of over 22% in one year is really not acceptable. If every member is prepared to sit by and say nothing, or follow the regular posters and accept whatever The Club does, then there will never be positive reasons to try and make a difference. Is that really the way foreword?
Ian has every right to comment on some of the somewhat passive/ negative views of the regular bunch who appear on nearly every thread. Having actually avoided going on line watching CT and been out and about meeting people on site in caravans and motorhomers, I can assure you that the significant increase in site fees is not well received. However, we are all members of a club and pay an additional fee for that privelidge, so to say "go elsewhere" is not a satisfactory or sensible way forward.
Write your comments here.. Strangely enough the valid points you have made have been made many times before.
K
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Surely everyone knows the cost of any bookings made , prices aren't hidden , it's up to individual members whether they accept or reject it , then they can decide to continue or not .
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Surely everyone knows the cost of any bookings made , prices aren't hidden , it's up to individual members whether they accept or reject it , then they can decide to continue or not .
Good point, Compass. If people on sites are complaining they must have already paid up and would have known the cost before arrival.
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This was supposed to be a sensible attempt to draw attention to the fact that an increase of over 22% in one year is really not acceptable
then why did you pay it?
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This was supposed to be a sensible attempt to draw attention to the fact that an increase of over 22% in one year is really not acceptable
then why did you pay it?
My thought as well Corners. I have no problem with views saying the increases are high etc. However, we are all aware of what we are going to have to pay before we arrive. To complain afterwards seems odd. Surely if it was more than you were prepared to
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This was supposed to be a sensible attempt to draw attention to the fact that an increase of over 22% in one year is really not acceptable
then why did you pay it?
My thought as well Corners. I have no problem with views saying the increases are high etc. However, we are all aware of what we are going to have to pay before we arrive. To complain afterwards seems odd. Surely if it was more than you were prepared to
pay you would go elsewhere..
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Since it would appear most CC sites are booked, most of the time, then the laws of supply and demand would suggest, they have the prices about right, or even a tad low. Increase the supply or lower the demand (ie as a consumer, go elsewhere) would appear
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Many sites are fully booked for the school holidays and weekends, but at other, less popular, times there are plenty of empty pitches.
I do think the sites are getting too expensive in the low season, with the extension of the "peak season" and above inflation increases.
We like Club sites, we know the standard will be good and the flexible booking system is a plus at our age, so we do still use them, but that does not mean we are entirely happy with the prices.
Instead we use them for fewer days each year and look more closely at the dates for the different price bands.
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Maybe to cover the increased wages bill, so as to keep up with the minimum wage and also the living wage that is coming in.
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Since it would appear most CC sites are booked, most of the time, then the laws of supply and demand would suggest, they have the prices about right, or even a tad low. Increase the supply or lower the demand (ie as a consumer, go elsewhere) would appear
to be the solution.......except that if you go mid week, out of peak season (the largest part of the year) they are often more than half empty.
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I don't think your comment is in line with the CT guidlines and there is really no need for ridcule in attempting to make your point -. it is not for you to decide what is reasonable regarding any poster, argue
rationally rather than attacking the poster,but actually no, I base my reasons to use club sites based on the good quality product I believe them to be. This is based on my privious vists to club sites where my opinion is reinforced. Everyone can make their own up
Corners, if you really cannot cope with having your views and opinions criricised, then you really shouldn't be posting on a public forum, should you?
You have openly said that you consider the CC to be perfect in every way and can do no wrong (I'm paraphrasing) and I think that is a ridiculous stance to take.
I have noticed that both myself and the original poster have been roundly attacked by the CC fan club daring to have our own opinions ......how does that sit with your own, personal view of the CT guidelines?
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Maybe to cover the increased wages bill, so as to keep up with the minimum wage and also the living wage that is coming in.
Those reasonable increases in wages have already been discussed and proved, by simple mathematics, to be no sort of justification for these huge increases in site fees.
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This was supposed to be a sensible attempt to draw attention to the fact that an increase of over 22% in one year is really not acceptable
then why did you pay it?
My thought as well Corners. I have no problem with views saying the increases are high etc. However, we are all aware of what we are going to have to pay before we arrive. To complain afterwards seems odd. Surely if it was more than you were prepared to
pay you would go elsewhere.I know how much the petrol is going to be before I drive onto the forecourt, but it doesn't stop me buying it and complaining about the rip-off price.
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I know how much the petrol is going to be before I drive onto the forecourt, but it doesn't stop me buying it and complaining about the rip-off price.
Thing is Ian, once fuel has gone up at the supermarkets you are left with no choice, other than not to use the vehicle. As various threads on CT show, in peak times there is still a tremendous amount of choice for those on a restricted budget.
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I was going to comment on this thread, but having had the temerity to introduce an international comparison and being told that it has no relevance to Enlandshire Exceptionalism I don't think I'll bother. I was going to say that the OP raised a legitimate question, which would sink or swim according to the facts, but unfortunately it quickly degenerated into trivial point scoring and non sequitering, so I don't think I'll bother.
I was going to say the OP's original point about Site Fees Increase remains unanswered, but since it would just give another troll another excuse for another inane remark, I don't think I'll bother.
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When we intend to visit an area I see what is available and we choose accordingly bearing in mind facilities location and price.
Ive just had a look at Great Malvern, The CC site for two w/e nights in June is £43.80, the CCC site ( right next door ) is £41.60, as it happens we are entitled to age consession rate which reduces the CCC to £33.60. I accept this is just a one off test, but on this info, the caravan club lose and the Camping club win, on this occasion by £10.10 per night !
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It may assist the CC in their decision making for the next round of price rises if members would indicate what would be " a step too far"
I look to forward to Cornersteady's reply in particular
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