Speeding on site

llivaf
llivaf Forum Participant Posts: 3
edited May 2016 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

can I ask why the vast majority of caravaners do not understand what 5mph is and why the club asks us to travel at that speed on site? 

I frequently see speeds of 20 and 25mph and at that speed a child can be seriously injured.

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  • Tinwheeler
    Tinwheeler Forum Participant Posts: 23,155 ✭✭✭
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    edited May 2016 #2

    'Vast majority' - I think not, llivaf. 

    When you see these occurrences on site do you inform the warden?

  • Navigateur
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    edited May 2016 #3

    Of course our Director General supports 10mph with penalties for going slow!

    Seriously though, how can we expect 5mph when most speedometers start at 10mph. I prefer to look at what is happening around me than keep staring at the dashboard as I think that is the safer option.

  • Metheven
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    edited May 2016 #4

    Vast majority, speeds of 20-25mph Undecided sorry, but never have I seen speeding to that extent, maybe I have been lucky. Most I have
    seen have been considerate and doodling along aware of what's going on around them, maybe 5, 6, 7 or 8mph, I don't know but certainly at a leisurely pace.

  • EJB986
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    edited May 2016 #5

    Some do, some don't....all I can advise is...keep your children on a lead if it's a worry.....you can always borrow a lead from one of the many dog owners who don't use theirs......or, get on with and enjoy your holiday!HappyLaughing

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  • JillwithaJay
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    edited May 2016 #7

    I certainly wouldn't say it was the majority but I do have to agree that a fair number of drivers on site are exceeding the recommended 5 mph.  I'd suggest they ask their passenger to get out and walk and try following them at the same speed.

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  • MJ730
    MJ730 Forum Participant Posts: 184
    edited May 2016 #8

    Usualy just let the car run on idle but even that can be over 5 MPH at times.

    Mike

  • Kennine
    Kennine Forum Participant Posts: 3,472
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    edited May 2016 #9

    The on - site speeding problem is easily solved.  Just make it a rule that the driver's partner is to walk immediately in front of the car or motorhome as the vehicle is driven on the site roads.  Cool

    Wink

  • huskydog
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    edited May 2016 #10

    So, what do solos doLaughing

  • IanHNW
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    edited May 2016 #11

    Stay in first gear at as low revs as possible (having an automatic is no excuse)

  • Navigateur
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    edited May 2016 #12

    Perhaps the wardens could arrange to escort each arrival to their pitch by preceeding them on their tractor? 

    Hmm.  On second thoughts maybe that will not work either.

  • Kennine
    Kennine Forum Participant Posts: 3,472
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    edited May 2016 #13

    So, what do solos doLaughing

    Write your comments here...Get the warden to walk in front of course .Wink

  • huskydog
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    edited May 2016 #14

    So, what do solos doLaughing

    Write your comments here...Get the warden to walk in front of course .Wink

    That's if the wardens aren't cleaning the toilets Surprised

  • Metheven
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    edited May 2016 #15

    Stay in first gear at as low revs as possible (having an automatic is no excuse)

    Why should it be an excuse, I can put my auto into first and use the brake if necessary to control speed, and all without slipping the clutch or stalling.

  • EJB986
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    edited May 2016 #16

    There are some really good theories in this thread as to how to maintain 5 MPH.

    I don't do any of them I watch the speedo and when it says 6 MPH I slow down.

    Don't they have them on all these fancy new cars and trucks that most members drive?

  • IanHNW
    IanHNW Forum Participant Posts: 41
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    edited May 2016 #17

    DaveFL2 A lot of people who own automatics don't know that they can select individual gears and can't hear the changes when in auto. EJB986 as Navigateur said in a previous post many speedos start at 10mph.

     

  • cyberyacht
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    edited May 2016 #18

    You are all aware that "walking pace" is between 2.5 and 3mph, aren't you. Unless you are one of those swaggering stiff-legged speed walkers, you are unlikely to reach 5mph, which IMHO is still quite slow. I think 8mph is possibly more realistic and, perhaps,
    more likely to be universally observed. (Protective headgear donned)

  • IanH
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    edited May 2016 #19

    How about, in order to avoid people breaking the site speed limit, they increase it to 10mph?

    Seriously, I have seen some people driving briskly, but maybe 1 in 20 years at 20 to 25 mph.

    Which site did you see all these rally driving caravanners on? I'd quite to go, just for the spectacle...... 

  • ABM
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    edited May 2016 #20

    I've  taken  to  driving  gently  round  until  there  are  three  or  more  caravans  behind  me,  hooting,  flashing  &  sending  passengers,  if  they  have  one,  to  request  that  I  might  consider  speeding  up.  ( Walrus  &  Carpenter   come  to 
    mind  Wink}

  • IamtheGaitor
    IamtheGaitor Forum Participant Posts: 529
    edited May 2016 #21

    If you really cannot -as opposed to cant be bothered to- control the speed of your car and drive at a set speed you probably shouldnt be driving.   Whether 5 mph is appropriate is a whole different question.  Under 10 but enforced would probably be safer.

  • Dickdastardly1
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    edited May 2016 #22

    As members you have every right to approach a speeding member and take issue with it.

  • llivaf
    llivaf Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited May 2016 #23

    Thanks to those of you who have posted a constructive response. Several interesting suggestions which the club should consider.

  • IamtheGaitor
    IamtheGaitor Forum Participant Posts: 529
    edited May 2016 #24

    As members you have every right to approach a speeding member and take issue with it.

    I don't think members have any right to challenge other people who they think are speeding You could report to wardens but I would be that they would not challenge them on your say so - you could video them i suppose and show that to the warden. Some wardens
    don't challenge them any way but most do if they see them.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2016 #25

    I notice you didn't answer my question about bringing speeders to the attention of the warden, llivaf. Wardens cannot see everything that goes on and we should help them by bringing dangerous activity to their attention for the good of all. That is a constructive
    thing to do to enable the activity to be nipped in the bud.

  • Dickdastardly1
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    edited May 2016 #26

    We're all members and we have every right to approach a speeding member and take issue with it.

    I don't think members have any right to challenge other people who they think are speeding You could report to wardens but I would be that they would not challenge them on your say so - you could video them i suppose and show that to the warden. Some wardens don't challenge them any way but most do if they see them.

    You as a member have every right to have you say, by all means report the member to the warden. ...I have known members approach other members about various incidents and then report it to the warden.

  • Surfer
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    edited May 2016 #27

    can I ask why the vast majority of caravaners do not understand what 5mph is and why the club asks us to travel at that speed on site? 

    I frequently see speeds of 20 and 25mph and at that speed a child can be seriously injured.

    By the same token children should be governed from speeding around site son their bicycles as many exceed the 5mph. In addiotn on more than one occasion we have had a child on bicycle almost colide with us while we are walking along a path.  We have already had a child run into the side of the car while on a skateboard.  Of course, parents nowhere to be seen!

    There is always the option not to be bothered with club sites, petty rules etc and find another site where there are no curtain twitchers who have nothing better to do than to see if they can catch out someone so they can have a moan on CT!

    BTW this therad will probably be moved to one of the other 40,000 threads regarding speeding on site!

  • llivaf
    llivaf Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited May 2016 #28

    can I ask why the vast majority of caravaners do not understand what 5mph is and why the club asks us to travel at that speed on site? 

    I frequently see speeds of 20 and 25mph and at that speed a child can be seriously injured.

    By the same token children should be governed from speeding around site son their bicycles as many exceed the 5mph. In addiotn on more than one occasion we have had a child on bicycle almost colide with us while we are walking along a path.  We have already
    had a child run into the side of the car while on a skateboard.  Of course, parents nowhere to be seen!

    There is always the option not to be bothered with club sites, petty rules etc and find another site where there are no curtain twitchers who have nothing better to do than to see if they can catch out someone so they can have a moan on CT!

    BTW this therad will probably be moved to one of the other 40,000 threads regarding speeding on site!

    Write your comments here...can I just say that you shouldn't assume that people just want to have a moan about speeding and if there are 40,000 threads on the subject then we do have a problem.

     I do agree with your comment re children riding their bikes however.

     

  • EmilysDad
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    edited May 2016 #29

    Where do you want kids to cycle? The open road? They might cycle a bit too fast, but they're kids and they don't think things through. Open roads are far too dangerous for kids to play on today so they play in the relative safety of a caravan site where
    we, the grown up, should be looking where we're driving and making allowances for them.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited May 2016 #30

    I still like the Dutch model of all cars in the car park and everyone can cycle safely on the campsite - but that would cause outrage here in the UK. I only know one UK site that operates like that, but people huff and puff when they find it in force and say they will never go there again. A no- win situation. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited May 2016 #31

    I still like the Dutch model of all cars in the car park and everyone can cycle safely on the campsite - but that would cause outrage here in the UK. .... 

    The exercise would probably do us good ..... some more so than others.