Caravan and Camping Club change in arrival times

DSB
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edited March 2016 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

News has just reached me that the other Club are changing arrival times on sites.  Arrival times will be 1pm instead of 12 midday.

David

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  • JillwithaJay
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    edited March 2016 #2

    Noticed that on their site earlier today.

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  • Wildwood
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    edited March 2016 #3

    Not seen that but we rarely arrive before then. Is there any action taken if you do as if not it will be about as effective as the cluns midday policy?

  • JayEss
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    edited March 2016 #4

    There is also a significant change in the latest arrival time which has moved from 11pm to 8pm

  • DSB
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    edited March 2016 #5

    I could be wrong but I don't think the news was released until today (the date on the press release).  When do you think it started from - answer: yesterday. Laughing

    David 

  • DSB
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    edited March 2016 #6

    There is also a significant change in the latest arrival time which has moved from 11pm to 8pm

    Yes, but I think there is flexibility on Fridays - the day they expect the biggest 'intake'.  Without going back to the press release, I can't remember if there are any more specific details about Fridays.

    David 

  • JayEss
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    edited March 2016 #7

    There will be provision on Fridays for members arriving shortly after 8pm. Delays should be reported to site managers etc.

    The Facebook group is showing a similar level of unhappiness as they did to flexible pricing and the introduction of the shoulder season

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2016 #8

    Do you still have to leave by midday? Did they give any explanation?

    David

  • DSB
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    edited March 2016 #9

    Yes, you still have to leave at midday, David. 

    David 

  • DSB
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    edited March 2016 #10

    To read the press release please see
    HERE
    .

    They are giving reasons for the change as, things like, to give the wardens chance to get the pitches ready (!) and to stop traffic conjestion etc.

    David 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2016 #11

    Thanks David. Funnily enough we stayed at the Hertford site last year and were arriving just after midday and there was still a stream of leavers coming the other way along a narrow approach road so for that site it would make sense. 

    Perhaps this will enliven their forum which seems to be a bit moribund of late!!!

    David

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2016 #12

    So they are now coming in to line with the cc with ref to late arrivals ,I would suspect they are having difficulty with the working time directive and staff working hours

  • peedee
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    edited March 2016 #13

    I don't have a problem with any of those changes. It makes a lot of sense to have an hour's difference between departure and arrival times especially where the approach roads are narrow.

    peedee

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2016 #14

    It might be an Idea for cc to take on board as 1300 arrs at some cc sites cause problems, if it was made network wide it would also give one couple site a break for lunch

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #15

    A break for lunch? In a customer focused leisure industry?? Really???

    And what on earth do they have to do to get the pitches 'ready'?

    If any change were required, it was to make it 11am departures (strictly enforced) and 12 noon arrivals.

  • Navigateur
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    edited March 2016 #16

    11am !!!  That woud be pushing it. When I holiday I want to get up after 10am.

  • brue
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    edited March 2016 #17

    Having queued at a busy C&CC site at 12pm because others hadn't left on time I hope this new system works better. 

  • DSB
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    edited March 2016 #18

    It makes our one and only visit to a C&CC site more awkward.  We only go just up the road with a group of friends and have usually got there for lunch time...

    David 

  • IamtheGaitor
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    edited March 2016 #19

    I think it would be better to keep arrivals at 12 but move departures to 11. No one allowed on before 12 (even if they ring the wardens, unless it is a truly one off emergency) and everyone who is leaving off by 11 or pay for another night. That way it is
    fair and clear for everyone.

  • Navigateur
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    edited March 2016 #20

     leaving off by 11 or pay for another night. That way it is fair and clear for everyone.

    . . . or everyone off for 6pm and no arrivals before 7pm.  Equally fair and clear, so it is.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2016 #21

    Is this going to go the same way as the Sunday Departure Time postings?

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2016 #22

    As one who would prefer 11am to 12pm earliest arrival I only hope that CC do not follow

  • Longtimecaravanner
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    edited March 2016 #23

    As one who would prefer 11am to 12pm earliest arrival I only hope that CC do not follow

    Plus 1. We hate sitting around in the morning either at home or away on site waiting to go so we don't arrive too early. Equally when it is time to go home we want to get on our way and are usually packed and off by 9.30am.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2016 #24

    As one who would prefer 11am to 12pm earliest arrival I only hope that CC do not follow

    Plus 1. We hate sitting around in the morning either at home or away on site waiting to go so we don't arrive too early. Equally when it is time to go home we want to get on our way and are usually packed and off by 9.30am.

    Us too. We always try and get to the site just after the 12:00  arrival time, and so leave sites before that time. An 11:00 latest departure would cause the occasional problem as we often don't move that many miles to a follow-on site and so would be arriving
    well before 12:00. 

  • JayEss
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    edited March 2016 #25

    I don't have a problem with noon departures and 1pm arrivals as I never aim to arrive before 4 at the very earliest. 

    It wouldn't bother me if the CC adopted it 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2016 #26

    I think a later arrival is fine if you are travelling some distance but many of us might only travel 50 or so miles to get to a site. This means a delayed departure from home and certainly at the weekend the earlier you can leave the less likely neighbours visitors are to arrive to block the road with parked cars!!! 

    As with most things announced by both Clubs I always get the impression that there is more that is unsaid rather than what is communicated!!! How do you get a hardstanding pitch ready? Wardens seems perfectly adept at mowing round an outfit on a pitch. I suspect its more to do with an decrease in working hours because of the new NMW?

    David

  • IamtheGaitor
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    edited March 2016 #27

    certainly at the weekend the earlier you can leave the less likely neighbours visitors are to arrive to block the road with parked cars!!!

    So very true. We live in a culdesac off a lane and 8am on a Saturday is fine, anything later and it gets very tight. If we are only going an hours drive a 9am arrival would be great - happy to pay for the previous night so we could do this, but sadly its
    not offered as an option.

  • peedee
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    edited March 2016 #28

    I think a later arrival is fine if you are travelling some distance but many of us might only travel 50 or so miles to get to a site. This means a delayed departure from home and certainly at the weekend the earlier you can leave the less likely neighbours
    visitors are to arrive to block the road with parked cars!!!

    You can always leave home early and park up on route for a cuppa. I have done that on occasions, even watched telle for a while.

    peedee

  • Whittakerr
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    edited March 2016 #29

    The change to 1 O’clock arrivals and 12 O’clock departures seems a sensible move. It negates the noon madness, if you think it exists, where people are leaving as late as possible while others are arriving as early as possible.

    Changing the times to something a lot further away from lunchtime will not help the majority of site users. Some posters have said a much earlier arrival time would suit their circumstances whilst others want a later departure time, so no matter what some
    people will not be happy.

    Most people want to get on site as early as they can, just as a lot of people want to leave as late as possible. Like most things in life a sensible compromise has to be made, and as is the way of compromises, some people don’t get their preference. Having
    the change over time around mid-day is probably the best all round solution.

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  • harryb
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    edited March 2016 #31

     Wardens seems perfectly adept at mowing round and outfit on a pitch. I suspect its more to do with an decrease in working hours because of the new NMW?

    David

    Agree with your thoughts on working hours. 

    They just seem to have moved the goalposts by one hour so that will just move the congestion back one hour.Have never seen any pitch prepartion other than a quick cut. have never seen many vans arriving after 8pm causing a disturbance. Have only ever seen
    two vans in the overnight holding area. So what does "arriving just after 8pm" mean, 15 mins, 30mins, 1 hour. Thereby hangs a possible reason. Up to one hour after normal closing perhaps, this will be accommodated in working hours by giving the team of wardens
    and extra hour break at 1pm. After all they will be very tired after all the extra preparation for new comers.

    There is nothing in this change other than it makes life easier in some hidden way for the powers that be,