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  • Fisherman
    Fisherman Forum Participant Posts: 2,367
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    edited October 2021 #122

    No idea but when you think of all the EU monies we got, nothing proper was ever done with it. Its the same with the vast amount of timber being felled and driven over the border to be processed. I see someone above mis read a previous post.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited October 2021 #123

    I’m convinced most of these shenanigans are to do with backhanders, as in paying extra for a contract👍🏻

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2021 #124

    This sort of double journey should never happen. It’s wasteful and polluting in many ways. 

  • brue
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    edited October 2021 #125

    I knew what you meant Nellie, it was just one of those unusual set ups, a tea plantation in Cornwall. wink

    I'm a bit surprised there are no egg packers in Wales Fisherman, surely some producers pack their own? (I've got a vision of eggs being taken to Norfolk wrapped in cotton wool....wink)

    We've strayed a bit from CO2. 

    Looks like things in general will be going up price wise thanks to all these changes and shortages.

  • SeasideBill
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    edited October 2021 #126

    Just out of interest, which do you think is worse, fake news or conspiracy theories or maybe they’re both “just insidious & malicious to add false plausibility”?

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited October 2021 #127

    It doesn’t really matter what I think SB you are the kind of person who doesn’t discuss things rather just tries to lead then ignore others, so please forgive me for not playing your games. . .But thank you for your interest in my posts👍🏻🙂

  • SeasideBill
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    edited October 2021 #128

    Wouldn’t accept that at face value Brue….another example of incomplete information, provided for effect and accepted without question. 2 minutes research confirms there is a big packing station just over the border in Shropshire. It supplies Lidl, Costco and Farm Foods to name but a few. If you buy eggs from those retailers in Wales it’s unlikely to involve Norfolk! 

  • brue
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    edited October 2021 #129

    I didn't accept it at face value, but then like you I found I was looking up egg packing in Wales on a Wednesday evening and maybe I needed to rethink my activities. wink

    However my egg packing knowledge is now up to speed, so nothing is lost in life and learning. laughing

  • Fisherman
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    edited October 2021 #130

    My information came direct from one of the big egg producers. Do you suggest I follow a lorry to  check its destination. Not fake news. Just showing the absurdity of the supply chain and the total waste of HGV driving times.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2021 #131

    Not sure at what point one might consider the extra transportation to be unacceptable. Many things to consider before a company is set up at a location to package eggs.

  • brue
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    edited October 2021 #132

    Yes I accept that there are unnecessary journeys involved in many areas of life.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2021 #133

    I'd have thought it was flippin' obvious really to anyone with a bit of common sense🙄

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #134

    If my granddaughter ,had not mentioned the hundreds of ,extra miles the "buy local " Essex chickens,(next door county )had done to be processed (via Scotland) then who , apart from Tesco marketing Dept  would know ?it was not advertised as suchundecided

  • Fisherman
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    edited October 2021 #135

    I guess as planning permission had to be given for the egg production units our esteemed planners would have sought EU monies ( and it was sloshing around) for a packing unit,  But there "heritage centers" were a much more sexy option. The fact most have closed through lack of use never crossed their little minds. Sorry rant at Our rulers.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #136

    When Italy First joined the EU (via a very dodgy finance agreement)we went to Rome ,for OHs sons wedding ,he married a daughter of the Hospitality director of Alitalia Airline (special flights from at back to Stanstead)cool

    Nearly every ancient building bad a huge banner on proclaiming it was being restored/preserved with money from the EUundecided

  • brue
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    edited October 2021 #137

    Out of interest, regarding eggs etc try looking up

    www.foodmiles.com

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2021 #138

    I can’t speak for Wales, and their Government, but I do know Yorkshire and further North has benefitted hugely from EU investment, particularly in terms of road infrastructure. A great deal of the money to upgrade the A1, certainly North of Doncaster came via EU funding.

    It doesn’t bother me where eggs are packaged, I am more concerned about the animal welfare. If eggs from free range, organic farms have to travel to Norfolk to get shoved in a box, rather that than buy eggs produced from vile farms where the poor creatures never see the light of day. Same with pork, I feel physically sick every time I drive past an intensive pig farm. I eat eggs because I can say hello to each hen that provides my breakfast, knowing it has as good a life as a hen can have. 

     

  • SeasideBill
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    edited October 2021 #139

    “I do know Yorkshire and further North has benefitted hugely from EU investment”

    Ditto Cornwall, Eden Project, Newquay Airport, fast broadband and A30 improvements to mention just a few of the projects.

    Also, heritage & culture does matter. Those of us who enjoy Baltic Wharf can imagine what it might be like had the City Council got its way in1969 and filled in the floating harbour replacing it with the M42 roundabout! 

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #140

    If any money comes from the EU  for major projects, ,it is evidently a legal requirement? that a banner advising of the fact has to be prominently displayedsurprised

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2021 #141

    Not sure about prominent, but on all the road infrastructure and manufacturing regeneration projects I have seen, the blue logo and circle of stars was on the information.
    As SB says, Cornwall is/was another area of UK that benefitted from EU investment. We can recall Cornwall back in the early 1980’s, not that long after UK became part of EU, and it was one of the poorest areas in Europe. Very beautiful, but vastly overlooked by UK Government in terms of investment. 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited October 2021 #142

    It's probably a much overlooked function of the EU to level up. (now where have I heard that before!) You only have to look at the progress countries like Spain have made in the last 30 years in terms of infrastructure much of it financed by the EU and us of course as we were always a net contributor being one of the richer countries in Europe. I am sure the same is currently happening in the old Eastern Block countries? The spread of EU investment in the UK covers many projects from providing finance for Crossrail to the restoration of the Roman Baths in Buxton I notice when we were last there. I have heard complaints from people in the UK that EU money has been spent of the wrong type of projects but I can't imagine any agreement to what and where to finance was anything other than a local decision? I imagine the EU had many pots of money which could be used, for example transport infrastructure, culture, sports and wellbeing and probably many more. All that will disappear as current projects are completed and it remains to be seen whether the current Government will be disposed to finance similar projects!

    David

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2021 #143

    Projects that had EU funding did not, as far a I recall, state what percentage of the project costs was funded by EU

  • Fisherman
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    edited October 2021 #144

    Takethe dog.  Easily said for you and me with a disposable income but to feed the ever increasing world population intensive food production in every form is reality.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited October 2021 #145

    As I said-backhanders if you know the right dodgy people who will happily bend the rules for ‘family’winkundecided

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited October 2021 #146

    The most disadvantaged regions of the UK received the biggest share of the EU funding, those very regions also voted to leave the EU, it was dubbed-‘brexiting yourself in the foot’🤷🏻‍♂️

  • Fisherman
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    edited October 2021 #147

    Rocky= it was seeing how the EU funds were wasted. No lasting benefit, only ego projects

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  • davetommo
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    edited October 2021 #149

    On Monday I ordered 2 items from Cannock Caravans. 1 Was delivered this afternoon  from Yodal, 10 minutes later the other one was delivered from Yodal. That is double the co2 emissions than if 1 van had delivered the 2.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited October 2021 #150

    No problem, I like all the posts I support without considering a posters politics nor style or subject-I post from the heart. I personally agree with your statement we are slipping into becoming a 3rd World country, care for the disadvantaged, infrastructure, living wage, respect. I watched a Vanlifers video last night traveling over Scandinavia & they pointed out the cleanliness, the attitude of the folk they met, the organisation & had to make unfavourable comparisons with the UK, I agreed with them wholly. This hasn’t happened in the last 10years it’s been going on for centuries, this Country gave the World Technology, Language, Science discoveries & has since been going backwards. No one Party is responsible they are all guilty. They now preside over a broken nation drifting back to the 1800’s in attitudes to its citizens. 

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2021 #151

    a notice points out who paid for them you guessed it a big blue circle

    The notice means only that the EU contributed towards a project. I consider that (in my opinion) attitudes amongst people have deteriorated in the last 30 years since EEC became EU but I do not see a direct connection. Many of our grand parents also starved at times David.