Blue Badge Registered Disabled .
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That is for job application, i far as i am aware, there is no law which stops some one .or an organisation asking for proof of disability ,if a person is asking for special treatment, on the grounds disability
The law only protect against discrimination, on the ground of disability0 -
Law or not, it is a gross invasion of privacy to question someone in that manner and decent people/organisations recognise that.
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When did verifying the truth become a gross invasion of privacy
if some one is asking for special treatment, why should they have a problem proving why ?0 -
You are out of order, TMTO, and starting to cause offence with your questioning of a sensitive subject. Go stir things up somewhere else.
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Why is it a sensitive subject
If i asked for special treatment, and some one asked, i would not have a problem0 -
I have official confirmation from both the hospital and the employer
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However from my experience, i have seen member who have claimed they are disabled, but from what i have seen a number of times, their claim was questionable
If you 'saw a member' how in the name of the almighty would you have any knowledge of what they might have claimed if indeed they claimed anything?
As for being diplomatic; You are totally out of order. Why the hell would anybody choose to claim on thread to be registered disabled and say that they never chose to use it? Whatever that might mean. The fact is that you have used the claim of disability to lend unlikely credence to your views and observations.
In 2019 I considered I might have to cancel our first trip from mid April to mid May as a few days before departure I was unable to hold the clutch down for low speed manoeuvres when in the tow car. I could not walk sensibly without a stick and my balance was poor. I had a very slight improvement and coped although I did not use a shower and resorted to strip washes.
During the next trip out from 10th June for 50 nights I did the same on the next couple of sites whilst still requesting a pitch near facilities. Our third stop was at Trewethet and the warden lent me a key. After realising the difference that it provided I ordered a key on line to arrive at the next site. A friend of mine who was disabled only got a key following having to use a colostomy bag.
I will not say what I really think of your post.
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Will you please stop being personal, there is such a thing as having another view ,and the high court has ruled that having a different point of view ,is not offensive
It is not uncommon to be told that a certain pitch, or pitch though empty , are not available due to be reserved for a disabled person
The question is not why should any one make that claim to get special treatment, the question is why should they then object to produce evidence, to verify their claim for special treatment
The government does not give benefits and welfare etc without proof and i they do not object then
If i was anti disabled i could understand your aggressive attitude, but i am not1 -
The washroom on club sites is not necessarily for the disabled but for the use of those that state to have a need, usually less able but not necessarily registered disabled.
If you consider that post to be personal that's fine as I have not said what I really think
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You are claiming if hospitalized for treatments, appointments, final discharge paperwork is not proof
Your doctors does not keep records etc
In the case of my employer the accident was recorded in the accident book ,and later confirmed by my employer for insurance reasons
Having a different view, not liking , not agreeing with what i post, is not making trouble
However being personal,is trying to make trouble0 -
In reference to proof, I suggest you read the application form for a blue badge, would you like the link ?
How about proof and applications for disability related benefits and welfare etcNever claimed such documentation is proof of a disability registration ,but you would need such proof to claim for disability registration
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Not if the person is asking for special treatment due to a disability
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TMTO - I am trying to understand your point of view, but quite frankly, failing badly.
Can I just ask if you have ever not been able to get a pitch you wanted on a club site because it has been allocated "disabled"? If so, presumably you could ask for it yourself. Have you ever needed to use the disabled toilet/shower facilities and not been able to because it's being used by someone else who you perceive as not being disabled?
If the answer to those questions is "no", then to be honest I really don't see what the problem is, except for a disturbing lack of trust in your fellow members.
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Totally of no consequence to whether one is in fact registered as disabled or whether anybody had a blue badge. Not sure quite what a Blue Badge has to do with disability as a direct proof. My late wife was on a disability allowance but had no need for and did not hold a Blue Badge.
Ah yes and I do believe that the earth is flat if you say so
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Do you never read what long term members are telling you as a fact. You do not need to be registered disabled or otherwise to use such facilities on a Club site as others have said. You merely have to state that you have a need. In this instance your knowledge seems to be the square root of minus one
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There is no such thing as registered disabled. Many years ago there was a green card which was a disability registration document - usually used by big employers who, at that time, had to demonstrate a particular % of disabled workers. That all went years ago. Nearly every form of any type you fill in will now ask the question "do YOU consider YOURSELF disabled". In some circumstances the next question will be to ask what modifications are necessary for you to undertake the task - e.g. attend an interview.
In terms of the Equality Act only a court of law can determine if someone is disabled, under the Act, and therefore entitled to its protection.
Blue Badges are for the purpose of advantageous parking facilities, usually larger and more convenient parking bays, sometimes lower prices (or longer time). They are no longer issued just for mobility issues but e.g. some hidden disabilities such as autism, acute anxiety etc. The rules of issue conform to a general standard, but are for the relevant local authority to determine.(County Council, Metropolitan Borough etc) Sometimes Blue Badges are used to prove identity because they contain a photo, but that is not their purpose.
Under the social model of disability that is largely accepted in the UK today it is for someone to decide for themselves if they are disabled. "Proof" is usually only needed in limited circumstances, - if for example, the organization is adjusting its work place to accommodate the disabled person, and then usually through an occupational health report.
The CAMC like most responsible organizations provides appropriate disabled facilities for its members. This includes washing and toilet facilities that are variously adapted - from the "assisted" toilets in the main blocks to full disabled showers and toilets that allow some one relevant space and equipment, possibly accompanied by a carer. It is not for the Club to determine who can use those facilities, not for them to determine if someone is disabled "enough" to use them. The wardens are in no way qualified to do so. The Club also facilitates the siting of members who request it, to use pitches close to facilities, if available. If you ring to ask for a pitch close to facilities you are almost always going to explain why - that is what people do. It may be because you have a permanent disability, or it may be temporary e.g. after an operation. I have been in that position, and found wardens helpful and accommodating.
Clearly there are some sites where there are very few HS pitches, and I can see that maybe a problem, especially if they are serviced pitches. Unfortunately, as many disabled people find, forward planning sometime in advance is key, where booking Club sites, travelling by train or a myriad of other activities.
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Good post, hja 👍
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