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  • LLM
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    edited February 2021 #182

    So far SARS-CoV-2 has shown itself to be much less agile than Flu.  Like SARS-CoV-2 Flu is a corona virus which spreads, mutates, and kills thousands every year despite millions being vaccinated against it and herd immunity has never been reached.  We live with it. 

    SARS-CoV-2 will most likely be with the same as Flu; it will remain active and we will have to live with it also.  The current vaccines will for the most part prevent people getting seriously ill, although that is not guaranteed.  They do not guarantee that you will not catch the virus, nor do they guarantee that you will not spread it if you do get infected. noticeably or asymptomatically.

    Bearing in mind that the primary objective of the virus is to replicate, the later mutations seem to be residing more heavily in the upper respiratory tract of those infected making it much easier for the virus to be spread by aerosol (coughs and sneezes spread diseases). 

    One thing we have yet to see is the SARS-CoV-2 virus becoming less dangerous.  It can't replicate if it kills its hosts so it may yet become more able to easily spread but less of a killer. 

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2021 #183

    It appears that coronavirus is a remarkably agile infection and mutations could be with us for the foreseeable future.  

    From what I read I agree on both statements. But I don't necessarily link the two directly

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2021 #184

    If this universal vaccine is successful, it could well be a game changer.

    Universal Vaccine

     

  • Fisherman
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    edited February 2021 #185

    There seems to be clamour for reopening the country. Is it wise to be in such a hurry. This virus has shown itself to be very efficient at exploiting every weakness. We should leave it to Government and their advisors to take things forward. Patience seem to be the answer..

  • allanandjean
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    edited February 2021 #186

    If you take every media comment at face value then maybe there is a clamour but if you leave aside those motivated, understandably,  by seeing their businesses going down the tubes then I dont see it.

    As for leaving it to the government and their advisors,I take it this means you are in favour of 'Eat Out To Help Out 2' which has just been mentioned on Radio 2 as a way of getting things moving in April?

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  • EasyT
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    edited February 2021 #188

    I no more disapprove her action than Cummings. I greatly disapprove of much of the press for shallow reportage - including BBC

    (I know the name Amanda Holden but that, and the fact that she is involved in that popular dance programme is the limit of my knowledge of her and the recent press reports)

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2021 #189

    Let's hope that it bears fruit

  • allanandjean
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    edited February 2021 #190

    If every day is a learning day then Friday was the day that she learned that its best not to do what she did when the neighbour is a, reportedly, a police officer!

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2021 #191

    As long as she also is able to confirm that we support the vulnerable within our family and hopefully beyond. 

     

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  • allanandjean
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    edited February 2021 #193

    During the first lock down my Mum in Law was admitted to hospital and required several visits to her GP for follow up tests etc.

    We had tried the sitting in the garden shouting routine and she, 94 and hard of hearing, was getting frustrated at this so I spoke to her GP.

    I said that I was of the opinion that so long as I kept to social distancing and had no direct contact it would not be unreasonable to go in the house-I would be further away then when I took her to see him-.

    I made clear I was not asking for permission but rather his thoughts.

    His answer was that we could not just abandon old people and that MIL was on the verge of needing a significant amount of care which, if she got little of no contact, would be realised quite soon.

    So it seems that I cant go casting stones!

  • moulesy
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    edited February 2021 #194

    Well, I would never have come across this celebrity story if it hadn't been for CT! wink

    Other than reading the basics on the BBC website, I've no knowledge of the incident but I do wonder what sort of emergency is best resolved by driving from London to Cornwall and back? undecided

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2021 #195

    The basics on BBC website is sufficient for me (too much really) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56058923

    I have no need to wonder on the nature of emergency. No big deal for me and not my business. 

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2021 #196

    If they opened their eyes the "neighbours?" should have noticed many more would be seen probably doing just the same, ,but then they probably would not have got paid by media outlets for othersundecided

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  • moulesy
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    edited February 2021 #198

    Yes, you're probably correct there. Seems a shame that the neighbours were unable/unwilling to assist the elderly couple in the first place - or that the elderly couple didn't feel able to ask the neighbours for assistance.

    Still, just another celebrity (non) story - no such thing as bad publicity,  eh? undecided

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2021 #199

    The neigbours car who's elderly mother lives in .Cornwall was not outside their house for most of last week? Tortoise hibernatingundecided

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  • DSB
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    edited February 2021 #201

    The good news is that I got my Oxford AZ Covid vaccine on Friday morning...

    The bad news is the shivery/ flu-like/ sick-feeling symptoms after about 12 hours.  Slept until after lunchtime on Saturday.  Its gradually got better and now just have a little bit of a sore throat and am feeling absolutely drained.

    Small price to pay though....

    David

  • LLM
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    edited February 2021 #202

    Well worth the £200 or so for the self publicity.  But I'm just an old cynic. 

  • brue
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    edited February 2021 #203

    For "elderly couple" read the same age as many on here. wink

    No comment about the incident concerned, most of us would respond to an emergency, it is allowed. 

  • Wherenext
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    edited February 2021 #204

    You speak for yourself.laughing Yes I thought emergencies were allowed as well. Non story really.

    DSB, glad to see you are back to normal, or as near as.

  • brue
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    edited February 2021 #205

    Much the same as my OH's reaction DSB, glad you are feeling better, pleased to hear so many on here are now getting their vaccinations. smile

  • LLM
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    edited February 2021 #206

    I'm wondering if I've been conned.  I got the paperwork and second appointment but as far as reactions go - nothing.  It was so quick I did not see it happen, I did not feel it nor have a mark (hole) or any reaction whatsoever and that was 15 days ago.  undecided

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2021 #207

    Do you take vit D supplement ? I was advised less side effects? I have had none at all with astrazenicacool

  • LLM
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    edited February 2021 #208

    Strangely enough the answer is yes John.  One sunshine pill each morning with my Weeties smile.   

  • Rufs
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    edited February 2021 #209

    Yeh feeling something similar, and i did not even get a new hole in my arm as i asked the pharmacist to use an existing hole from previous vaccinations laughing but i did get a sticker, so i must have had the real stufflaughing

  • moulesy
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    edited February 2021 #210

    Neither of us have had a reaction after yesterday ! It's a very odd feeling though now having had the first jab - a sort of limbo land until the booster! smile

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2021 #211

    Baked beans on top?cool I have tried but not good with the chocolate weetiessurprised

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