COVID - general discussion - Temp Locked
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Waiting time at hospitals and for call outs have gone beyond any max times,because that many are unable to access ICUs at Hospitals in this area ,we are now as yesterday over 1130 positive in just our borough of Herts far above the first wave
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Agree 100% with that. I have the greatest of admiration for the way the health experts (Whitty, JVT, Powis amongst others) have calmly and positively replied to questioning at the news conferences - it does give you faith in the belief that, behind all the political posturing there are those attempting to get ahead of the situation.
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Because people will do what the rules allow at one particular time and (perhaps in some cases) added to their belief it will never happen to them.
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Yes, I've said that even if we were magically in tier 1 tomorrow, I would still be following tier 5 rules while there is someone out there that might infect me.
The Christmas day approach was a political decision rather than a scientific one no doubt.
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Apparently a recent study claims smoking increases your risk of developing Covid-19 symptoms and ending up in hospital which contradicts previous research. If this is the case this is yet another good reason to pack it in, but I can guarantee many won't heed the advice. I'm not sure what effect excess drinking of alcohol has on Covid and I am sure that is a far more serious question some people have who post on here.
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Intuitively it would make sense that COVID is not helped by smoking as the main damage it does is to the lungs, in both cases. I suppose the good news is that only about 14% of the population now smoke. Probably the reason we notice people smoking is that there are far fewer of them now. Heavy use of alcohol impacts of the vital organs and with severe COVID organ failure is a main issue so I suppose the healthier they are to start with the better?
David
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I know that the death toll in this country is appalling, but I see that Germany has had over 1000 deaths each day for the last 3 days. We have heard very little of what is happening "over there" recently but things are obviously not much better and they have been much slower than us in getting their vaccination programmes up and running.
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Christmas was never a price worth paying. Appalling actions and words issued by the government which many thought reckless. To paraphrase. "You can 'safely' meet up with two other households. But please don't"
An upsurge in infection - now there's a surprise
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Some smaller shops still do but not the larger supermarkets.
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I can't speak for other areas but I use Asda and Lidl mainly and since the panic buying at the start of the first lockdown the has not been a real need although distancing is still in place as well as sanitisers etc. I did notice that just prior to Christmas the chap in Asda foyer had a colleague and both were using a counter to monitor entry and exit. There was a member of staff monitoring at Lidl also. I usually pick my time though so not shopping at peak
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I hope something is put into place, just heard of local problems with certain individuals wandering round in groups. Our community shop strictly controls the numbers entering, no problems, but general management in larger supermarkets appears to be less stringent.
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I know that I run the risk of being accused of "complaining" (not by you
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Britain on Friday reported a record 1,325 deaths over a 24 period from people testing positive for coronavirus, as a surge in cases piled pressure on overstretched health services, forcing London to declare a major incident.
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Still a lot of couples shopping, are they hand tied or something. Nearly all I have seen is one boringly pushing the trolley whilst the other fills it, unless for good reason why is there a need for two? One can still boringly push the trolley and fill it.
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Our local Sainsburys has someone on the door monitoring the numbers in store - not sure if the actual numbers are the same as earlier but there certainly never seem to be the same sort of queues as back in the original lockdown. We haven’t shopped together since the first lockdown was brought in but whenever either of us have been it seems there are plenty who are still shopping as couples/families.
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OH visited a local DIY store this with a traffic light system. So I wondered if other places where being more careful after adverse local reports of groups wandering round.
By the way Moulesy I agree with you about the schools problem, people are taking advantage.
They probably are in a lot of situations.
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Not only for the customers but for the long suffering staff as well. It is obviously important that supermarkets remain open but I do question those shops where food is only a small percentage of their assortment? Why are shops like the Range open selling their full assortment which just encourages those that don't care to browse? At this time of year I am not sure I see the point for garden centres being open either? I have not been in a supermarket for a month or two so I don't know what the current practise is?
David
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"Oh well expect more announcements, lockdown tightening."
Or maybe not .... most won't be able to do this without driving a few miles from home I bet?
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