2030 - No new ICE cars to be sold
What is the Club's position on this announcement?
It sounds the death knell for towing anything like a decent size caravan unless reasonably priced electric cars capable of towing over 200 miles without recharge suddenly appear, and the recharging infrastructure expands rapidly. Given the incompetence of most politicians that is unlikely to happen.
Or do we think this is just another of Bojo's announcements that will quietly be forgotten when it becomes clear that there is no chance of this happening by 2030?
Perhaps the Club could enlighten us on whether it is engaging with the Government, as it is abundantly clear that no thought has been given to this issue by the Politicos.
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I share your concern Nutsy. In my opinion the decision to bring the ban forward to 2030 is insane. 2040 was a much more sensible timescale.
There is a big chance this could be a disaster for the caravan industry. I do hope the Caravan Club fights this tooth and nail. And doesn't just cave in because it wants to be seen as "saving the planet".
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You are right flatcoat. The unintended consequences of this could be off the scale. And to think he has done this so he can grandstand at next year's big climate conference. And it may also show the influence of his new partner. I certainly didn't vote for this last December.
I will be writing to my MP about this. It's about the only thing we can do.
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I doubt there will be enough electricity to run them all anyway. Note to self: buy candles.
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Isn't the plan to actually ban the sale of vehicles that ONLY use diesel or petrol ie you'll still be able to buy a hybrid of some sort 🤷♂️ It's naïve to believe that there will be enough electric available to charge them and enough charging points for those that only have on street parking. Even those that do have their own drive, will there be enough electrical capacity to charge Mum's, Dad's & the kids cars over night for them all to get to work the following day?
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I doubt that they will manage to install enough charging points in 9 years and 1 month as people will need them at home. Who will want to spend the time it takes at a charging point away from home waiting for a charge. Then there is the problem of terraced houses, do the leads go across the pavement making a trip hazard? Claims everywhere. Where do all the charging points go to avoid this, is it the kerbside? That will stop parking on the pavement.
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It is not as though we didn't know this day was coming. It's been talked about for the last twenty years? I appreciate that it means getting a lot of balls in the air to make it work but beyond that point there will be many advantages. The air will be cleaner for a start which should drastically reduce the risk of childhood Asthma and also help with breathing problems in old people. Because we will be producing our own clean energy we won't be as dependent of oil rich countries that have in the past pushed us into recession almost at the turn of a switch. So the risk of being held to ransom by either Russia or Saudi Arabia is diminished.
The 2030 deadline only refers to the sale of new petrol and diesel cars, they will be around for years to come. Some think it will see the value of such cars fall through the floor but I wonder if the reality will be that prices will hold firm give the price of new EV's? During the transition period electric cars will develop and be as capable, if not more so, than diesel as a choice of towcar. Some might not like the fact that they will have automatic gearboxes. Let's embrace the future.
David
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It could be that scarcity situation will see our ICE's go up in value.
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So could the fuel & parts needed to keep them on the road🤷🏻♂️
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Depends on how much they increase the tax on fuel and perhaps a higher rate for ICE if road pricing comes in. That might make any scrapage scheme look attractive. Especially as now we have the MH, the journeys we are doing in our cars are all well within the range of an EV. Wonder if they will let you scrap two ICE for one EV.😀
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At peak periods now in colder times of the year electricity is already on a knife edge and even with HMGs idea? about wind farms ,will not cope with the amount of add housing that is to be built?
We are to have over 12,000 new properties in this aras
With gas for domestic use being stopped?
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Mmmm, they are not exactly at the forefront of advancement as a nation I’m afraid🤷🏻♂️, they can always rely on folk visiting but it’s not ideal. We’re talking 1st world countries to be honest👍🏻
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The stoppage of gas is not presently on the cards just its provision on new builds. Not sure how that stacks up with affordable housing given how much more expensive electric is than gas per kw at present. No doubt the required solar panels will mitigate that. The strange thing is the talk is that if you want gas in a new build you have to fit solar panels but I expected such panels to be a required anyway. No doubt in another 4 or 5 years that will become clearer.
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I'm not so sure it's as easy as just adapting. We have been able to keep WW2 aircraft flying as they are very basic, just like old cars. When it comes to higher tech stuff it becomes a lot more expensive and there aren't the same number of folk who understand it and are able / qualified to fix it. So keeping a 2014 ICE vehicle (in my case) going would just get ridiculously expensive and unviable. Unless of course it was a classic.
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That is where technology? and engineering clash , where has the real ideas of inovation and adaption gone?
Its where real apprenticeships learniing from those who know , and most UNI grades are so far removed
The Asian populations will show how to do it
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For many years we have purchased electricity from France as they have always invested more in nuclear power than we have and have a surplus. At least I consider France a friendly power!!!
David
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I'm not sure what the OP means by the club having a position on this announcement as, like the rest of us, it will have to roll with the blows.
Once again, it demonstrates the club used foresight in diversifying into static accommodation at an early stage and the 'pod haters' must surely see the wisdom of that.
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