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  • Rufs
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    edited November 2020 #1622

    Wonder if anyone done a bit of research to see if Grandparents affected by the GKs.

    I am in regular contact with 3 of my gkids, e.g. picking up from ferry, sports fields etc....we sit in the car masked up gkids in back, and i mean back, have a 7 seater Sorento so i have put the rear seat up....touch wood, so far all good, even though both parents have tested positive and gkids have only just come out of self isolation. My OH does not go near to them as she as some minor complications. I have enough hand wash and surface wipes in the car to start up my own chemist shop.laughing

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2020 #1623

    Children are now more likely than adults to be the person bringing a Covid infection into a household

    dont disagree however in our experience it is difficult to get children tested because they are likely to be asymptomatic and you cannot get a test unless you are showing symptoms. In our case mum & dad tested positive, kids could not get a test via the official channels, but mum pulled some strings and got some home tests, all 3 were negative.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2020 #1625

    Ooooh!😳😳

  • Fisherman
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    edited November 2020 #1626

    Cant get my head round the furore with Tiers, Xmas etc, when a vaccine is so close. After doing everything right since March I would not want to take any risks now with so much hope so near.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited November 2020 #1627

    My sentiments as well.

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2020 #1628

    You may have ore hope than me Fish but I agree the England message seems daft to me and I think that the same applies to Wales. My grandkids won't see me at Christmas other than on video. 

    I sent their mum £200 for presents for the two and some links for a few items that she should buy but the rest she can choose. That was a few weeks ago. Also £100 for youngest grandsons birthday just before Christmas. If my eldest daughter wants to drop by before Christmas for an hour to exchange presents that is fine. We can socially distance in our sitting room.

  • moulesy
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    edited November 2020 #1629

    I agree - it's not so very long ago that we were being told that different households mixing indoors was one of the primary drivers behind the spread of the virus. To act as if 5 days of mixing is now a risk worth taking, especially as the justification appears to be "you"ll do it anyway so let's not pretend we can stop you" is to my mind a complete abrogation of duty by those responsible. I accept that many families, like us, will have missed meeting up with loved ones for so long but surely, with a potential vaccine on the near horizon, sacrificing this festival, which has largely lost its original meaning, would have been a small,  price to pay?

  • Wherenext
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    edited November 2020 #1630

    Couldn't agree more with you Moulesy and Fish.

    I really feel sorry for those folks who are torn between the choices they face. It's easier for us, a couple without children so no GKs and with siblings living far away. We've been practicing lockdown Christmas for years and have it off to a fine art. We used to invite a couple of the single widowed elderly in for dinner and drinks but both have passed away so it will be just us three of us. I can't put myself in others shoes but it doesn't make any sense to just "let it rip" as someone in power recently said.

    It's not just Christmas but traditional manic behaviour with Boxing Day sales and New Year will see regs ignored.

    Poor old NHS and other emergency staff.

  • ABM
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    edited November 2020 #1631

    100% with you and Fisherman, Moulesy  --  absolutely no way I will be mingling with anybody before the New Year at least !!  Too many years behind me now to go round damaging the futures of my much younger relatives.  I've been behaving since March and only got a touch of Man Flu'  so I reckon another six months won't kill me or them but C19 just might.  

    I WILL  OBEY  !!

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited November 2020 #1632

    It’s not an issue to me WN. It’s a no family Christmas this year, we’ll drop all the gifts off & that’s the end of it. I’m planning for many christmases to come & I’m not willing to throw the dice & just hope🤷🏻‍♂️☹️

  • Wherenext
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    edited November 2020 #1633

    👏👏👍👍

  • Compo
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    edited November 2020 #1634

    Unfortunately, I think the damage to the futures of the younger generation has already been done.

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2020 #1635

    although i agree with the need to be cautious and not throw care to the wind and end up with corvid19 peak 3, there are some circumstances where i believe it is possible for familys to sit round the table on Christmas day

    e.g. all my Gkids and parents have had covid-19 this makes it very unlikely that they will be contagious on Christmas day, myself & OH have not had it, or we dont think so, but even if we were asymptamatic on Christmas day very slim chance of passing it on to family.  So we will be a table of 7 on Christmas day and ditto for Boxing day and that will be it, back to lock down after.

    As has been said, very difficult to police this "no socialising indoors", so over Christmas there would be millions up and down the country enjoying a turkey lunch together, regardless of rules and regulations.

    Students in Nottingham have already started Xmas festivities, major rave party over the weekend with 50 arrests undecided

    On the bright side, new infections down 30 per cent since the start of the present lock down, could be down to zero infections by Christmas if we are all good laughing

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  • EasyT
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    edited November 2020 #1637

    On the bright side, new infections down 30 per cent since the start of the present lock down, could be down to zero infections by Christmas if we are all good 
     

    Did I just see a reindeer flying overhead? 

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2020 #1638

    Much my view David. Likely increased restrictions for a total of 2 extra months' for many' for sake of Christmas is my view

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2020 #1639

    Hope it makes a pit stop at Boots to get me some "Dual Defense Nasal Spray"laughinglaughinglaughing

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited November 2020 #1640

    Not until-‘the night before Christmas’ ET👍🏻

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2020 #1641

    The "Five Days Of Christmas" will do more to spread the virus than  happend when the schools/Unis went backundecided

     

  • Compo
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    edited November 2020 #1642

    I see shops in England will be allowed to stay open for longer in the run-up to Christmas and in January. Seems sensible to me, hopefully it will reduce the crowding. Not that I will be making use of it.

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2020 #1643

    Pubs and restaurants across Wales will be banned from selling alcohol and be forced to close at 6pm every evening

    I know that finding a logical explanation for many things during this pandemic is difficult, but this, why would you open your pub at all? undecided

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2020 #1644

    Many won't I suspect other than perhaps that have a good local lunchtime meals take up. And I suspect that all lunchtime meal trade is depleted anyway at present. 

  • Compo
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    edited November 2020 #1645

    I know alcohol is classed as an essential item for many people, so do you think there will be an invasion of Welsh people across the border into the pubs and restaurants in England as a result of this ban or is there a ban on people crossing the border. I know I am banned from entering Wales, but does that apply the other way as well.

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2020 #1646

    Yes, we in Wales cannot cross into England. 

  • Wherenext
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    edited November 2020 #1647

    But I managed it today.laughing However in mitigation it was to drive my wife to the dentist who is in Chester and that is treated as a Medical Exemption. Never found parking so close to the dentist so easy. 45 minutes later we were homeward bound.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited November 2020 #1648

    On the first day of Christmas my family gave to me

    A temperature of forty point three...

  • LLM
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    edited November 2020 #1649

    So, CV19 has succeeded where all other efforts over the years have failed.  Only joking of course as I for one would love to cross into Wales for a nice camping break.  I would even bring my own beverages smile

  • cyberyacht
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    edited November 2020 #1650

    On the second day of Christmas my doctor gave to me

    Two swab tests

    and a temperature of forty point three

  • moulesy
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    edited November 2020 #1651

    Not sure if the shop staff who will be required to work through the night will see it in quite the same positive light! frown