Rewilding

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  • brue
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    edited December 2019 #152

    No, we were lead off topic by your good self, maybe we could get back to the theme of "re-wilding." You can't have it both ways. wink

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2019 #153

    It's not only members that try to get threads closed with their comments, non members seem just as ableundecided

  • Fisherman
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    edited February 2020 #154

    Now weve seen the eco terrorist away from Mid Wales they turn their attention to H2S.A one man band who is supposed to be BBC wildlife expert with these draconian views gets all the publicity. Good luck with anyone presenting a reasoned or different view. The war chest alone will prevent any debate.

  • Pliers
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    edited February 2020 #155

    H2S?

    Hydrogen sulphide?

    Not sure what that’s got to do with rewilding....
    🤔🙂

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2020 #156

    We really don't need it at all. Smells like rotten eggs to me!wink

  • Fisherman
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    edited February 2020 #157

    good article in the Daily Mail today. Seems they could be despoiling an area near you very soon.

  • Pliers
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    edited February 2020 #158

    Who are?

    But if it’s in the Daily Fail it must be 100% true.........

    😱😱😱

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #159

    It is quite a reasoned article ,giving both sides ,but with a no win for either

  • Wherenext
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    edited February 2020 #160

    good article in the Daily Mail today.

    That'll be a first then.

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #161

    Depends , as in any paper these days , what the person reading it has leanings towardswink

  • Fisherman
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    edited March 2020 #162

    Strange why its always the outsiders or the new incomers that want to change how the locals live. We yokels who have looked after the countryside ( yes and changed it over millennia) don't seem to have any idea of how to manage things. The Danish wilders don't seem to have done a very good job either. Never mind lets see the changes the zealots bring to The Cheviots and  Troutbeck in the Lakes. Quite funny how all these places they want to change are a long way from Hampshire or the Cotswolds where the majority of them live.

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2020 #163

    If you think rewilding is controvercial , do not look at some of the headlines in today's paperssurprised

    Where it is mooted as to the need for farmers at allwink

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2020 #164

    Why am I finding this so worrying........🤔

     

     

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2020 #165

    Just keep taking the pills ,cool

  • cyberyacht
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    edited March 2020 #166

    Being totally reliant on imported food sounds a "really good idea" .yell

  • GVD
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    edited March 2020 #167

    They talk about rewilding, but with river stocks of salmon diminishing rapidly, rivers are not allowed to be re stocked? with native, indigenous fish.

     

  • Fisherman
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    edited March 2020 #168

    Another townie spouting his opinion, re no need for farmers. Wait until all trade ceases as the Virus takes place. The only food available will be home grown but then there may be no one to eat it. A bit like German Cars but made from Chinese parts.

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2020 #169

    Townie, Bit condescending. Who knows best? As far as this virus is concerned I suspect no one at this stage!

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2020 #170

    My understanding is that fish being used to restock rivers are wherever possible the 'most indigenous', that is they come from the very same river/watershed gene pool. Please correct me if I'm wrong!

  • brue
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    edited March 2020 #171

    See the fisheries improvement programme on Gov.uk and other web sites concerned with healthy river stocks etc. smile

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2020 #172

    Can you be more specific, Brue? All I can find is reference to removal of invasive species and restocking with natives.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2020 #173

     A bit like German Cars but made from Chinese parts.

    I don't think that my late wife could understand my hatred of B&Q coming into local areas 35+ years ago. They were a symptom of the demise of small builders suppliers, small engineering shops etc. 

  • brue
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    edited March 2020 #174

    MSF. Here's one LINK.  There is a link to an annual report in there. Did you know UK eels have been illegally exported to China causing huge losses to our European species? Rewilding is one thing, trying to keep up with illegal practices is another. Lets hope there is an end to the habit of the Chinese eating captive wildlife and running the risk of cross species diseases, we're now all suffering from the consequences eg the Coronavirus.

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2020 #175

    Thanks Brue, yes I was aware of this despicable illicit trade in elvers. It need stopping like the persecution of raptors on moorland estates and the spreading of toxic lead across the landscape. Still can't find any reference to not allowing restocking of our waters with genetically correct native species.

  • brue
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    edited March 2020 #176

    MSF. No I didn't expect you would find it as there's plenty of info out there about how restocking is done and the use of native "parents." There are similar processes for salmon, if anyone cares to dig them out of the internet etc.

    Any re-introduced species in your area yet?! wink

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2020 #177

    Thanks Brue, I too found info. about restocking but no ref. to not using native genetic stock.

    As far as reintroduction in general is concerned, yes, red kites are now visiting our skies, otters not seen for decades are reappearing too. We even have ospreys visiting our waters now on their transits. Natterjack toads have also been reintroduced to several sites local to us. Where there's a way there's a will. We humans can help the recolonisation of our native species spread elsewhere in previously occupied areas and managed reintroduction sites do help.

    From little acorns massive oak trees grow!

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2020 #178

    Last year we have also seen more storks visit coastal and mainland England. The suggestion is that reintroduction projects in Western Europe is aiding this occurrence.

    In addition this project below may also be contributing to the increasing numbers of this bird here in the UK which once bred here.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-/environment-white-storks-uk-sussex-cornwall-biodiversity-rewilding-a9095766.html 

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2020 #179

    Wonder why this thread as suddenly reappeared....very strange, or maybe not with this forum and it's Lego men.

  • ABM
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    edited May 2020 #180

    I've noticed several "Oldies" have appeared since last nights E M  works ,  does nothing to bolster my confidence about using this ..................................yell

  • Fisherman
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    edited July 2020 #181

    It seems everything we have said, and  the misinformation put out by these Zealots  was correct. Just read the antics of the Goldsmith dynasty in the papers today. Here we have privilege, member of DEFRA and money up to no good. Beware these zealots wont go away, it may be happening near you.