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  • nelliethehooker
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    edited October 2019 #92

    White Tailed Eagles also take Mink, so perhaps they will spread to areas where the mink are prevalent.

  • ABM
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    edited October 2019 #93

    Yeah, we all have seen Golden Eagles  flitting across the sky with a deer clutched in each set of talons NOT !!

    Main food source of G-eagles will be rabbit, hares etcetera.  Should it find any dead animals it will take advantage and use its beak & talons to scavenge but hardly enough to qualify as its main food source.

  • brue
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    edited October 2019 #94

    True ABM, deer meat as carrion not carry off. wink

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #95

    A shaft of wit wink

  • ABM
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    edited October 2019 #96

    Saying nowt  smile   !!

  • Fisherman
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    edited October 2019 #97

    Some twaddle here. I bet the Mink are rampant on Mull. Lets face it the main food source of the White Tailed Eagles on Mull is the free fish thrown to them by the tourist boats to allow  picture taking. I see no one has agreed that the the rich Southern English activists should consider their own back yard for wilding I e The New Forest.- wonder why

  • moulesy
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    edited October 2019 #98

    Thing is,  F, if you want to be shown a bit of respect for your views it might be an idea to show others that same respect!

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited October 2019 #99

    Perhaps the reason Mink are no longer rampant on Mull is because of the White Tailed Eagles!laughing

  • rayjsj
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    edited October 2019 #100

    The Sea Eagles on Mull are mainly on Lochs, Loch Frisa especially

    There are NO tourist boats on Loch Frisa.  Research please.

    Mink are an invasive species that escaped or were released from fur farms that should never have been in the UK in the first place. Stupidity and Greed again (releasing them was stupid) Greed for them being here in the first place. 

    Pine Martens however are a native species that are thriving in Scotland and would do well in parts of Wales. As would Wildcats. Indeed they do as i have seen more than one in Coastal Ceredigion.

    Fisherman your chip is showing. AND I am in my own back yard.

    As for ownership of land, no one person owns land for more than 100 years...we are transient .listen to the Welsh National anthem.

     

     

  • rayjsj
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    edited October 2019 #101

    On a lighter note, Golden Eagles released from Russia have run up huge data roaming charges on their SMS trackers as they cross numerous countries in the area.

    Young Eagles it seems are like human youngsters... always on their mobile phones.    A success story!   Why not Wales ?

  • Fisherman
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    edited October 2019 #102

    Having fished Loch Frisa and Ba I can assure you the size of the fish in them would not sustain an Eagle hence why the White Tail are seaborn Eagles.

  • brue
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    edited October 2019 #103

    I read that too and also they'd set up crowd funding site to pay the huge bill....but I won't be contributing, it could be a dastardly plan to fill the coffers over there. wink

  • Fisherman
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    edited October 2019 #104

    Watch BBC1  Inside Out tonight 7.30 pm.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2019 #105

    Which area? It is not national

  • Fisherman
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    edited October 2019 #106

    Only saw it on BBC web page. No further knowledge. Funny how we had lots of pops at Farmers and country folk but no one replied to the NIMBY question re Downs & New Forest. Like all the  anti everything, House building, roads, wind farms - its OK provided its far way from them.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2019 #108

    So true with your repost Msurprised

  • Fisherman
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    edited October 2019 #109

    Quite simply-The force behind rewilding this vast tract of Mid Wales- bulldozing the locals are based in South East England. Why don't they put their plan in action in their own back yard-  The Downs and New Forest.

  • brue
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    edited October 2019 #110

    But haven't the RewidlingBritain group withdrawn from the project Fisherman? (Due to pressure from local farmers etc) So it sounds like you have had your way and the group agreed they need local consent and agreement.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2019 #111

    That’s a little better phraseology but how can you expect anyone here to know the answer? You need to ask those people directly. 

  • SeasideBill
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    edited October 2019 #112

    ReWilding Britain Chief Executive is based at University of Chester (somewhere near Wales I think), other trustees are in places like Scotland and Lincoln, not really the South East of England.

  • Fisherman
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    edited October 2019 #113

    Programme was on Midlands.  Seems the crackpots are leaving Wales ( but we will be vigilant) for another area. What they left behind was loss of trust between us and the quangos and so called charities ( the smell of money showed us their true colours). Good luck to you people who will be caught up in heir next project. Remember they have a war chest of £3.4M to "influence" non elected, factions before you realise what they are up to. The main people are a Californian Academic, Tetra Pac Heiress and some other family member and of course "celebrities"< Be aware especially Keilder and the Cheviots though we suggested to them the New Forest.  Have a nice day it is certainly better here now.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited October 2019 #114

    They might one day re introduce badgers in the wild after the authorities have finished their present programme of killing them .

  • brue
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    edited October 2019 #115

    Newspaper articles have said "they have learnt from "furious" farmers in W Wales....I bet they have….wink

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited October 2019 #116

    They’re getting Deer in their crosshairs now. Always some pesky wildlife slowing the profits☹️

  • Fisherman
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    edited December 2019 #117

    Sorry to return to this, but my mates and I have just returned from our activities. We have just crossed about 200 acres of new deforested and harvested softwoods. These were planted like the 10000's of acres throughout the UK just after the war. By today the harvested wood is not worth a lot and the cleared land almost worthless for any other activity. Most of this land is owned by us through Forestry Commission, NRW etc. Why don't the wilding fraternity turn their attention to these vast acerages and plant their Hardwoods in them. No need to take more land ( mostly privately owned) out of production nor upset the native population.What are we yokels missing here or is it just too simple for the zealots to contemplate.

  • Freddy55
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    edited December 2019 #118

    I have no great insight to these things, so just a few thoughts.

    In the grand scheme of things, is 200 acres a large area? “Vast”? Is the area/ground suitable for hardwoods? Won’t planting hardwoods be expensive (“we” would have to pay) ? I imagine a hardwood forest will take a very long time to establish? Don’t the FC have to balance the books?

    As I said, just a few thoughts, not trying to be argumentative.

  • moulesy
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    edited December 2019 #119

    "Sorry to return to this, but my mates and I have just returned from our activities"

    Not sorry enough, obviously! laughing These "activities"? Wouldn't  by any chance involve killing wild animals would it? frown

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    edited December 2019 #120
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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2019 #121

    Take more land🤔, really? Are you sure the Farmers didn’t just sell the land for a profit🤷🏻‍♂️. It tends to work that way usually🙄🙄. The Farmers I know(quite a lot too) don’t let anyone take anything for nothing, I’m sure it isn’t just Yorkshire Farmers, I reckon Welsh Farmers would put up a fight too🤔