Proportion of Serviced v Standard Pitches

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  • Unknown
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  • Briang
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    edited June 2019 #34

    This is Carnon Downs in Cornwall price 

    All Service Hard Standings:
    £2.50 per night (including Mains drainage and Water point on each pitch)

     If they can do it why don't the Caravan & Motorclub do it. £3.90 too expensive.

    http://www.carnon-downs-caravanpark.co.uk/tariff.html

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2019 #35

    On my last visit to a site with SP during the week, there was actually a greater occupancy on one day on SP rather non service pitches. Most sites run at about 10% SP but this one has a third of pitches being SP. Again just one day and the SP were full before the rest of the site was. They do appear to get booked up early and before non SP pitches on sites where the number of SP is about 10%

    Also while it may be true that people book them to secure a HS, but on the sites I go use are all HS and again SP go first, with motorhomes and caravans too, often 50% MH on SP. 

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2019 #36

    Possibly because Carnon Downs basic pitch price for 2 adults & 2 children in August is £41 a night, whereas, for example, Treamble Valley is £33.40!

    The club clearly has a pricing strategy which works as far as service pitches are concerned. On our recent stay at Putts Corner there was never more than 1 vacant serviced pitch, even midweek. They're not for us but certainly seem popular with lots of vanners and MHers.

  • flatcoat
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    edited June 2019 #37

    We generally prefer to use serviced pitches and pay the premium. I find it bizarre that people are happy to spend £40k or more on a motorhome or car and caravan and then constantly moan about club pitch prices or paying another £4/night. Out of the annual costs of caravanning it is minimal. We are all consumers and until caravanning is nationalised or outlawed still free to take our custom wherever we wish and pay less if the club is deemed so extortionate. Sometimes we go on private sites (as we will be next month in Cornwall), sometimes we use club sites. 

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2019 #39

    Does careful pitching of MH, and a long hose constitute a semi serviced pitch? We have done this for years, one of our caravans had an onboard tank. We just make sure we top up at a time convenient for other site users. A lot of CL users seem to take this approach, no one has ever complained to us or to my knowledge site owner/manager. Only applies if we aren’t moving MH nowadays, which is quite rare as we do go off site in it most days. 

  • derekcyril
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    edited June 2019 #40

    Bolerboy .thanks for stopping roundabout ! can concentrate on cricket ,,Both clubs @ commercial sites @ cs cls seem to be investing loads of money in glamping and other posh stuff , surely the market is not that big ? 

  • KjellNN
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    edited June 2019 #41

    Exactly what we are now doing.

    No way can we afford the more expensive of the club sites between June and September, let alone an extra almost £4 for a serviced pitch AND spend as many nights away as we wish.

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  • DSB
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    edited June 2019 #43

    Hi BoleroBoy

    Many on Club Together and elsewhere, are aware that I have been making the argument for being able to book hardstandings or grass pitches at the time of booking, for quite a time.  I don't intend giving up!!

    David

  • Chrystal
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    edited June 2019 #44

    A massive £4.90 per pitch at Chatsworth 🤪

  • DSB
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    edited June 2019 #45

    Hi David.  I have posted this elsewhere, so apologies for duplicating - here it is again, in case it helps.  The device I have recently bought from Colapz is pictured below.  If you take out the 'ball cock' device the 'bucket' folds right down.  It is extremely light.  I've also added a photo of their waste pipes.

    https://colapz.co.uk/

    David

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  • Navigateur
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    edited June 2019 #47

    all the money saved on not using overpriced sites

     

    I don't use overpriced sites.  Where can I collect the money saved, please?

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2019 #48

    I think that they are 'super' serviced pitches with toilet disposal as well

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2019 #49

    I stay 5 nights on a pitch and move on. I will only fill and empty once. So for me nearly £20 for one fill and one empty seems rather a lot.

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited June 2019 #50

    That's the same thing my father came across at is photography club, they would spend thousands on equipment but did not take many photographs because of the cost of film and developing, I agree with you, from the total cost of investment,fuel , insurance etc it is ridiculous.

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2019 #51

    The club obviously has an argument for not providing the option David laughing

  • DSB
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    edited June 2019 #52

    Only ever stayed on one site almost like this, and that was some years ago.  It was Dornafield in Devon, where there are some pitches that have one CDP between two pitches.

    David 

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  • EasyT
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    edited June 2019 #54

    I had an end pitch there a few years ago. Waste bin, toilet empty, water and grey waste alongside pitch.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2019 #55

    Are you saying people buy expensive LVs without giving thought to the cost of using them?

    Surely the sensible folk will have sussed out the running/using costs in advance and, if necessary, bought less expensive units so there’s something left in the pot for using it. Is anyone really going to splash out an enormous sum on an LV they can’t afford to use?

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2019 #57

    I was asking exactly what you were saying because what I described was the implication I picked up. Thanks for clarifying.

    Actually, if you read Hooker’s post in context it was about the ridiculousness of people spending mega bucks on an LV and then scrimping on site fees in general, not just SP fees.

    I find the concept of different pots of money rather odd. What you (and others) describe is a bit like buying steak because the food money pot is flush and turning the heating off because the lekky pot is empty. It suggests poor budgeting skills to my mind.

     

  • Navigateur
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    edited June 2019 #58

    Were there not comments in another thread earlier this month about the theory that SOME people who have bought expensive motor caravans grudge paying site fees at all and try to ovenight for free somewhere?

  • KjellNN
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    edited June 2019 #59

    Yes, that is why we bought the van we have, and the one before it.

    Our previous van (1998) had a very good full width end shower room which meant we could be totally independent of site facilities, or the lack of them, if necessary, so we looked for something at least as good when we decided to change to a fixed bed model (2008).

    The great strength of Club sites is that you can generally depend on there being good disabled facilities, something that is not always available abroad, so as we planned to tour in Europe for extended periods, not needing to worry about such facilities was essential.

    Although we had not thought of it at the time, 11 years back, it also means that we can use no-facility sites and CLs in UK, which we have been doing increasingly in the last few years to keep site costs down.

    Previous van was purchased with money from savings while I was working, current one was from pension lump sum, as was the towcar we bought when I retired in 2007,  Current towcar was purchased with savings from pension income in the previous 9 years, we make a point of saving enough to replace capital used on such purchases, and of living within our income.  

    This is becoming more difficult each year as my pension is not rising as fast as inflation, so we are increasingly focusing on site costs as one of the things that we can choose to do something about.

     

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2019 #60

    Some might just not pay £4 a night for a tap & drain on principle ..... 

  • Justus2
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    edited June 2019 #61

    We have used "serviced pitches" on CLs and sites where there is no option, but we have never paid extra to use one and never intend to. Being both fit and able, I really don't see such a huge benefit in paying an extra £4 just to save 10 or 15 mins each day. As we are away for around 90 nights per year, if we paid and stayed on CC serviced pitches every-time ( which we don't ) that is potentially an extra cost of £360 per year... For us there are far better ways of spending that money, and for us every charged for service pitch is a pitch lost which we will never ever use. If some find that bizarre then so be it. We each have a choice...cool