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  • Unknown
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    edited December 2018 #272
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  • EasyT
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    edited December 2018 #273

    Can't see the comparison ET

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2018 #274

    More to do with quality and ambiance? Club sites are far too expensive in that reapect?

    Not sure I quite follow but I think that you are saying better ambiance on commercial sites. Not my experience. For the times we tour I usually find commercial sites no cheaper and sometimes dearer than nearby club sites

  • eurortraveller
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    edited December 2018 #275

    One day this Club will hire managers who understand Dynamic pricing structures - adjusting prices regularly to meet supply and demand, - cutting prices to try to fill empty pitches at short notice, and putting them up when demand is greater. There will be no printed list of fixed prices a year ahead. Look how RyanAir prices move. Look how supermarkets shift stock. None of them print prices in advance. 

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2018 #276

    You been reading the runes again ET?

  • pointthefingerman
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    edited December 2018 #277

     

    We are booked for Torbay April/May, a regular visit for us to the same 'commercial site' we have visited for years and to catch up with friends. It is a quiet spot we have reserved with unrestricted views across the bay -  Site fees work out at 23.95 per night. 

    Local Club site works out at 24.42 per night for the same period.

    Also Booked another 'commercial' facility in Cornwall with a Beach facing pitch (literally feet from the beach) in a quiet spot, that works out at 28.14 per night.

    Stunning site on a working farm in Dorset near the Jurassic Coast, £28 per night

    Daleacres Club site (Kent) based in Hythe 24.60 per night.

    'Commercial' does not have to equate to larger operations, although those above are, CL sites are also 'commercial' with many now providing good facilities at reasonable prices. I can only speak as I have found, in fairness some sites I would not go anywhere near in the high season, but when touring outside of this period they are quiet and can be better value - I think the suggestion of a more 'dynamic' pricing structure makes a whole lot of sense if the 'club' are going to compete in an ever growing leisure market.

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  • peedee
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    edited December 2018 #279

    Sometimes it is worth paying a little bit more for a commercial site for a different experience rather than use a Club site.

    peedee

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2018 #280

    Yes WTG, by commercial sites I meant non Club sites or CLs. So are you comparing 'bang for bucks' (so to speak) of CC sites and those overseas then? Such price comparisons are, for me, irrelevant as different countries have different socio-economic situations. Comparison of club sites and non club sites is valid and although I use a mixture of both of the main clubs and also non club sites my preferrence is for CC sites.

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2018 #281

    I have, when there is not a convenient club site and have often 'paid a little bit more' to do so. That is why I am able to state my general preference for CC sites. 

    If you find otherwise PD it is doubtless down to the well known fact that we are all different

  • peedee
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    edited December 2018 #282

    I think we all have a preference for Club sites whether they be a C&MC site or another Clubs' but only if they are considered value for money. After all why pay a membership fee and not use them?

    I am having a lot of difficulty understanding why a printed copy of a price list is so crucial to choosing a site. I can only think it is the way members are choosing where to go. Does the site determine this or is it the area/place that points to where one is going to go. It is the latter in my case. I first select an area or place and only then decide on a site from what is available and suitable in that area taking into account factors such as location and accesibility. It is only in the final stages of selection do I need to know the actual price and that is usually only when the booking is made. It seems to me those who want to browse a hard copy of a price guide are selcting where to go purely on cost and not on an area or place of interest? If this is the case why then go and book on line which according to the Club this is how the majority of bookings are made! It seems an incongruous way of doing things when the price is clearly available on the site details page.

    peedee

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  • SteveL
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    edited December 2018 #284

    And to return to the topic, yes, I would like a printed list of prices. Have rung the Club with a request but was told it would be 'the end of January' before the list will be available for posting to members. My (damaged) handbook arrived today, but minus an accompanying price list it is pretty much redundant.

    I think you are overstating it a bit WTG. Apart from the detailed price the handbook still has all the information about the sites, pitch types, facilities, EHU etc. It also has a price from which at least enables a comparison.  For instance Chatsworth £14.90, Buxton £10.05, Castleton £10.25. Plus the information that Buxton and Castleton have a mid week discount and Chatsworth doesn't. 

    You are going to have to go online or ring up to check availability. The book isn't going to tell you that. The actual price will be apparent at that time.

    You clearly have online access to come on here.😉

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  • cyberyacht
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    edited December 2018 #286

    But he may not have when out on the road and that is the crucial point for a "touring club" surely.

    The lack of a price readily discernible makes it difficult to decide whether the club site price in any location is good value or whether alternative providers need evaluation. Could it be that "they" know the club does not stand up to comparisons with other providers and wish to obscure the fact.

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2018 #287

    Goodness, why such a fuss from some as to why some of us like, still, the printed word?

    No fuss from me WTG. It was you that stated the sites book was pretty much redundant without the price list. Clearly that is not the case.

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  • SteveL
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    edited December 2018 #289

    You are still going to have to ring to check availability CY. They will inform you of the price at that time. Based on what the book tells you about the site, i.e. minimum price / non facility / non EHU pitches / plus time of year, I think most will have a rough idea of the likely price in any event.

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2018 #290

    Can't see any of that I'm afraid. Just a simple statement of the facts.

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  • SteveL
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    edited December 2018 #292

    Well, the clearly meant, as you are posting on CT you have Internet access. The winky icon was just put to indicate I was stating the obvious.

    No other agenda, no intention of denigrating your preference for hard copies.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2018 #293

    Buxton £10.05, Castleton £10.25.

    The quote in bold is taken from Steve's post above taking about prices from. However to me it illustrates the stupidity of Club pricing. How can two sites, not two far apart and yet in price they are separated by 20p, yes 20p Someone at the Club needs to look at the bigger picture and start dividing sites into less price bands with meaningful differences that way we could have a much narrower selection of price bands.

    David

  • brue
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    edited December 2018 #294

    DK. That's why I pointed up the opposition's simpler approach, it's difficult to understand all the 2p and 3p additions, except a few thousand of these will bring something in but I find it far too convoluted.

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2018 #295

    Totally agree David. It would make the pricing much clearer if they were banded. Sites like Buxton, Castleton, Clumber falling into one band. Those like York, Baltic Wharf and Chatsworth into another. I don't think there would need to be more than 4 bands and one of those would be the non facility sites. 

    However, this would have to go along with less uping and downing throughout the year, due to all the different holiday periods the club has invented.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2018 #296

    Been like this for a while DK, stupid little amounts of a few pence that are irritating when calculating an overall price. The pricing structure is a shambles nowadays.  Too many differentials, too many changes on certain dates, too many variations between sites. All designed to claw in a few extra pence.  

    I would love to know how prices are determined for each site, and who does it, using what as calculator. Staffing costs and energy costs will be in there without doubt, possibly clawback for any refurbishment, probably historical usage, perhaps wishful thinking in terms of popular on trend destinations......... 

  • brue
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    edited December 2018 #297

    An accountants nightmare, I'm surprised this has never been streamlined and coded up to improve the process. It's slightly Dickensian. wink

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2018 #298

    Even the no facility sites are differently priced. Some are a straight £15, others like Marazion are more. This is probably location based, or might be linked to how much lease of land costs?

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2018 #300

    I used to tot up prices in handbook and write total in for a stay for us, to compare with CL alternatives at a glance. Can’t do it now, so will assume, and go straight to CLs, unless it’s a Racecourse or AS.

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2018 #301

    I can understand the CL's and Racecouse sites but the AS sites we have stopped at have all been slightly more expensive than a comparable CAMC site.