Grass pitch prices
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If the above happened and you left the site,would it be classed as no show.
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Agree. I think when you make a booking you look at the number of grass v HS and make an informed guess based on dates on the probability of getting a grass pitch. However as you know when you booked a HS is not guaranteed you can't really drive away without it being a no show
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Not quite. I only book a CAMC site if I can absolutely guarantee a hardstanding, by either
1. Only booking sites that are all hardstandings
2. Booking full serviced pitch (P.S. there are a few sites that have serviced pitches on grass, so I am careful to check)
3. Book sites out of season when grass pitches are not used (having checked first to make sure).
Other than that I use private sites where HS can be booked.
This always works for me.
David
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If the Club weren't so parsimonious in their maintenance and development of sites, all the grass pitches would be "reinforced" and would then become more usable in adverse weather. This would then see less pressure on the demand for HS.
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Corners, do actually read and try to understand whats posted or do you just spend all day pulling the odd word out and trying to make an issue of it?
as you well know, my post was referring to 'us' the members, where (with regard to the awning choice) this doesn't present a problem for 'us' and the club allows 'us' to choose....
however, in the case of grass/HS the club said it was beyond 'us' as 'we' (the members....you, i, DK, uncle tom cobley, etc) found it too 'confusing'.........as you are now
please try and make a better effort at understanding, your attempts to take things off into confrontation all the time are extremely wearing (even for someone on 'holiday') so, please (in the nicest way) could you desist......
if you spent more time reading and understanding rather than focussing on the nuance of a couple of words or syntax and all the other sidetracks you come out with umpteen times a day, then perhaps so many threads wouldnt get bogged down as they do...
as ive said to you before....
'Its like a finger pointing away to the moon. Dont concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.'
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To answer your first question no
And I'm sorry you find it wearing and confrontational but you don't or rather can't control any replies to any of your posts however much you want. Providing the replies are within guidelines of CT which we are all bound including yourself. If you feel any of my posts are in breach then you know what to do I assume.
If you post something that I feel is worthy of another viewpoint or requires further clarification from you or anyone then I'll post
back to your post , Thank you for the clarification,
however, in the case of grass/HS the club said it was beyond 'us' as 'we' (the members....you, i, DK, uncle tom cobley, etc) found it too 'confusing'..
I now see, you were talking from the club's viewpoint not your own. I do apologise, and perhaps you could be clearer next time and the as you well know trick doesn't work on me I'm a teacher/inspector and seen it used so many times by teachers to get themselves out of a jam
Hope your hols and further bookings go well.
A quote for you - Do not despise the snake for having no horns, who is to say it will not become a dragon
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Corners, please carry on marking your books, rather than my posts...
however, you can post whatever words you wish, ill not be replying....
and yes, ive certainly told Rowena (on many occasions) what i think of you....(and of your treatment of some other CT members) but i cant print it on the forum...
ive tried to be polite and have deliberately avoided any of your baiting posts, yet you relentlessly search out my posts to dissect word by word to squeeze out some advantage or ulterior meaning.
so, as you havent done me the same courtesy, we wont be conversing.
thank goodness theres not a cat in hells chance of me ever running into you.
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well certainly Rowena hasn't got in touch but thanks for you reply.
btw I haven't marked a book in a long time, you said you weren't talking to me last time
I'll be in Italy from Thursday so if you're in Tuscany please pop by
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CY
I suspect that when the Club look at the relative costs I expect they come to the conclusion that gravel hardstandings are likely to provide more members with a pitch they prefer. If people don't like grass I expect they will not like reinforced grass pitches? I have used reinforced grass pitches and they would not be my first choice although I suppose they would be better than just grass. Another reason for not liking reinforced grass pitches (I have mentioned this many times before) is that unless they are properly maintained they can become a trip hazard if the earth in the reinforcements comes out and leaves holes. Whilst they may work on completely level ground there can be a problem if there is a slope. I witnessed on one site with that sort of reinforcement wheels spinning on a motorhome trying to get up on levelling blocks. I am currently on the Brecon site so will have a look for these reinforced pitches as mentioned further up the thread.
David
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The thing about grass reinforced is that the grass is still there (I think there's a hint in the title), and yes as DK says I certainly wouldn't like it. Grass gets wet and it is surprising much better at transferring that wetness to your shoes often quite a way, which then gets into the caravan or car. Wet tarmac or gravel doesn't seem to transfer as much if all allonto every part of your shoes.
If grass reinforced is so good why aren't more home drives done that way? Would anyone want such a thing?
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Well, many National Trust carparks are reinforced grass, its easier on the eye than gravel or concrete, and allows natural drainage, also at quieter times, when often empty, doesnt look so quite so 'barren' as gravel.
I think poorly draining sites, like St Davids, which is an all grass seasonal site would benefit greatly from reinforcing with plastic panels, they are relatively cheap, and very easy to install (or remove if necessary). And mean that Motorhomes or tow cars dont damage the surface by getting stuck in mud during a rainy period.
As a motorhome owner i choose a hardstanding if possible, but if directed to a grass pitch i ask the Warden if it is well drained, as the pitch could get damaged as i drive on and off regularly. His choice.
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Indeed they (NT) do and after a wet day shoes/boots get very wet and that gets into the car. Yes I agree it does look better, absolutely, but I'd rather have a dryer car/outfit.
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I would not by choice choose grass. However, at least at present if it is all that is left, it is likely to be in the better weather, as they are taken out of service at the beginning and end of the year. So as long as we have not had a long wet spell, or they have been abused, they are generally in reasonable condition.
I assume if they were reinforced the CAMC would like to see them in use longer to recoup the investment. Before they replaced them with gravel, Chatsworth had reinforced mesh and grass filled blockwork along the edges of the service pitches. At the two ends of the year these got terribly messy with worms bringing soil to the surface. This was of course transferred to shoes, and although taken off in the caravan, often resulted in mud being taken into the toilet block.
So although reinforcing would remove the risk of getting bogged down, it would not make a grass pitch any more desirable to myself.
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yes and of course the grass would still grow and have to cut so ading to maintenance costs?
Perhaps if the club bought green gravel?
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To all those that praise gravel. The site I'm on at the moment has mud where the tarmac meets the gravel ..... water doesn't drain through the gravel so you end up with puddles .... ending up with mud. Unfortunately no option of grass here.
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Still on the same site and the grass is fine although there now plenty of vacant pitches it is interesting to note that about half of the new caravan arrivals are choosing the grass pitches.
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Not really a surprise on that site. Ground good and grass generally not cut too short meaning mud does not generally come to the top underfoot. On many sites it does and hence why I avoid grass generally; I don't like walking on muddy grass!
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it also depends on the area, at Troutbeck Head in the Lakes the remaining grass pitches are being converted in to HS. According to the wardens they have never been used in a number of years
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The lovely CMC site at Dunnet Bay has fully grass pitches. It's a great site with direct access to a fantastic beach. I've yet to see anybody having any difficulties there.
It's a shame that those who detest grass pitches will never be able enjoy that site and what the surrounding area has to offer.
K
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Hello everyone and thank you for all your diverse comments.
SteveL is correct in that tourers choose their pitch when they arrive.
Therefore, if you arrive at the earliest arrival time, you have more choice than someone who arrives much later.
This has proved to be the fairest way the wardens can allocate pitches but if you do have a specific request, please feel free to call the sites.
We have trialed Members being able to pre-book grass or hard standing pitches.
Following this trial, we have gone back to the original way of booking, as it stands now, following Member's feedback.
It is often the case of not being able to please everyone as you all have different preferences.
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Nicky
Where exactly was this "member feedback" as I don't recall being asked? Reading posts on Club Together there seems a clear majority who want to book a pitch by type be that a hardstanding or grass. Surely the confusion arose because the Club decided to trial the experiment on certain sites only when it would have been far more sensible to have changed the system completely, even if only for a year to see how it worked network wide. The way the Club decided to do it was rather like the Ministry of Transport experimenting with us driving on the right but only on Wednesday so hardly surprised that members were confused. The Camping and Caravan Club managed to have a perfectly good system for booking pitch type and one of the reasons I seem to find myself using more of their sites. It would be very easy for the Club to conduct a proper survey of members on this matter and get proper feedback.
David
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Grass pitches on Club Sites have become more of a problem in last 15 years or so. Many more folks caravanning nowadays, Club pitching areas, even grass ones, tend to be "set in stone" due to tight spacing, and none movable pegs! In days of yore, if things were a bit worn, you just nudged the pegs about (often done by Wardens) to rest patches, move things up a bit, etc.... what we did all last week on the all grass site we used. Doesnt seem to happen nowadays, sites too busy at certain times, not enough space between outfits. We remarked on this last time we were on Marazion visiting friends. Our memories were of lots of space, but as outfits have got so much larger, there just isn't the room any more. Club puts pitch income before user comfort, and it won't change on the grass Sites.
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Nearly all grass on the CL sites we have visited this year, luckily no mud as I prefer grass but ONLY if weather is guaranteed
. Tomorrow we are going up in the world, a CL in Lincolnshire with hard standing and ideal for this time of the year.0
