Grass pitch prices

Doncadboy
Doncadboy Forum Participant Posts: 1
edited September 2017 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Could the club management please explain why they charge the same pitch fee for a grass pitch as they do for a hard standing, especially at times when there has been a lot of rain. 

Some grass pitches are so uneven as to make pitching a caravan very difficult.

This is even more noticeable when there is a commercial site close by charging less per pitch than the club.

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  • SteveL
    SteveL Club Member Posts: 12,311 ✭✭✭
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    edited September 2017 #2

    The answer is simple. Because they can! 😂

    Unfortunately you are very unlikely to get this or any other answer on CT.☹️

    The inability to book pitch type means that many, me included, book a pitch and risk ending up on grass.

    Some won't and only frequent all hardstanding sites, or book a service pitch. Whilst we have a caravan I am prepared to take a risk, only rarely have we ended up on grass, as we try to arrive soon after 12:00 / 1pm. Also as we like to have a service pitch, we would always book those if available, so it is not as though we are being forced into it.

    Good one for your first post though. Welcome to CT.😀

  • Cornersteady
    Cornersteady Club Member Posts: 14,433 ✭✭✭
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    edited September 2017 #3

    Yes welcome.

    As Steve says this has been discussed before. The bottom line is that the club sets the prices and you as a customer has to decide to buy or not, or even use the site next door.

    Some love grass pitches but I will not go on grass at all and either go on sites that are all hard standing or book a service pitch which is usually (but not always on one club site) a hard standing pitch. I actually prefer service pitches so this isn't an issue for me, and again the service pitches are very popular and go quite quickly.

    Just out of interest and not agreeing with it, it had been said that because a grass pitch requires more maintenance (grass cutting) and therefore more time and cost it is the grass pitches that should be charged more!

    The good news is though (if you like HS) is that the club seems to be converting more grass to HS each year and all the new sites have been all hard standing.

  • dmiller555
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    edited September 2017 #4

    I'm on a grass pitch at Bourton-on-the-Water site. What exactly is the problem with them; am I about to be swallowed up. 

    Incidently the site is just about full, possible only a couple of pitches available.  

  • KjellNN
    KjellNN Club Member Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭
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    edited September 2017 #5

    Where we are right now, I would be very unhappy had we ended up on a grass pitch, the grass is totally sodden. We had already decided before we arrived that if there were only grass pitches left, we would look to move on to a different  Club site after only one night.

    Looking round the site, there is no reason that the majority of pitches could not be HS, presumably there is some planning restriction preventing it.

    Grass is fine in summer if the weather is good.

    I would say that we accept the risk of ending up on grass as we want the location, this would be particularly so in the Cotswolds.

    Where we are now you could well be swallowed up!

    I like serviced pitches too, but they have become  just too expensive for us to consider using one these days.  Instead I look for a pitch  close to a service point.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2017 #6

    There are no problems as such but I think it come down to personal preference, there could be problems on certain sites and at certain times of the year. Personally I wouldn't want to risk my stay away by having a water logged pitch or even a very wet one, or mud, or having trouble pitching or towing? maybe I have a low risk threshold or not a 'proper' caravaner ? Also I think hard standing means more year round touring

    As I said some love grass some love HS, you pays your money...

  • Navigateur
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    edited September 2017 #7

    you pays your money...

     

    . . . but you do NOT take your choice.

  • dmiller555
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    edited September 2017 #9

    This is our first time staying on a grass pitch and given the extremly heavy rain of the last few days I think that the pitches have stood up very well. I think I prefer it to the gravel pitches that we have used up to now much more comfortable to walk on grass. Certainly no mud anywhere accept on the dog walk. 

  • DaveCyn
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    edited September 2017 #10

    Don't know about Southport but couldn't have put it any better ref the moaners.

     

    We've had more than 100 nights away this year of which only 5 were on hard standing & not had a problem anywhere. 

  • Randomcamper
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    edited September 2017 #11

    I'd love to see you & MM arriving at a mixed grass & H/S site.......

    Because in a lifetimes vanning I've never seen anybody drive past a vacant H/S pitch to park in the mud, sorry, grass.......wink

    So on that basis, there are some right story tellers on CT as well....wink

  • JayEss
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    edited September 2017 #12

    I don't moan about there being grass pitches on sites. I just don't want one. 

    I moan about not being able to book the pitch surface of my preference 

    If all those who claim to prefer grass would actually pitch on it then we wouldn't have a problem. Unfortunately most seem to just like looking at grass. Possibly it looks better to them because there's no caravans or motorhomes on it making the place look messy 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2017 #13

    The last three sites I've been on ... M in M, Looe & Longleat I've  specifically asked for grass tongue-out

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2017 #14

    You've joined a club then that has different rules / terms /etc from what you want  ...... innocent

  • EasyT
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    edited September 2017 #15

    Doubt that you will get swallowed up. I want hard stand to walk on. Don't worry about car or caravan getting bogged down for one moment

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited September 2017 #16
    • Personally I reckon that te CC should charge extra for grass awning pitches because of the additional repair and maintenance.
  • JayEss
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    edited September 2017 #17

    I have indeed but I'm only a member for the insurance now. 

    If the other club had come close with the quote then I'd not be a member. 

    I don't feel good about being a member though. frown

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2017 #18

    Maybe you could campaign the other club to change its insurance policy rather than try to get this one concrete over it's sites .... 

  • JayEss
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    edited September 2017 #19

    Which sites have concrete?  

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2017 #20

    It sounded better than gravel over ....... tongue-out

  • JayEss
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    edited September 2017 #21

    It does sound better wink

    I'm not campaigning for more HS. Just bookable HS

    I've solved the problem by not using club sites with grass between Easter and September. 

  • Alex Cassells
    Alex Cassells Forum Participant Posts: 159
    edited September 2017 #22

    Hi doncadboy, we have only been caravanning for a relatively short number of years compared to many members, 15 years or so, but can only praise the CC for the standard of their pitches. When we first started many pitches we went on were uneven front to back or side to side or both. Our levelling ramps and spirit level were in constant use. More recently, I can't think of the last time I had to level side to side. So it's maybe down to people's expectations these days. The CC have put more hardstandings in over the years, which appears to have improved matters, especially in bad weather but now some people expect to pay less for grass and uneven pitches. Its maybe how progress occurs I suppose.

    For what it's worth, my opinion is that there is no need for a price difference in pitch types. I feel that I am lucky enough and paying to have excellent onsite facilities and will adapt to whatever the pitching conditions are. We are only in a caravan on a pitch for a few nights and its an outdoor pursuit/holiday/ pastime which our kit is designed to be used in. ( Heavy motorhomes in mud excepted )

    Cheers Alex.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited September 2017 #23

    I suppose in order to charge different prices for HS and grass, the club would need to allow booking of a particular pitch type. As the trial proved that we members got confused by having to chose a pitch type, it seems we're stuck with having to pay the same price for all pitches. frown

  • Merve
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    edited September 2017 #24

    As a non EHUer, the grass pitch comes as standard. In 23 yrs I can't recall a problem on a grass pitch but I can on a 'hard pitch' on a club site in the Lake District where the stones and quarry waste were so sharp it was painful to walk on and only a good layer of foam tiles helped to deaden the points! However, there is no doubt that it's a matter of luck where grass pitches are concerned. We have just today returned from Wales and it has been rather damp! - not continuously but enough to get us to take the awning down 2 days early- a very good decision as it turned out. But when we think of the 10 or eleven weeks that we have had this year in fabulous sunshine, we didn't do too bad!! I am not fussed either way but I do prefer a grass pitch. These days on a grass pitch , with Lock and level, levelling the van is a breeze- no more backwards and forwards with planks , ramps and the like. Super simple! 

  • paul56
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    edited September 2017 #25

    We prefer a grass pitch where possible but just come back from North York Moors site and all grass pitches closed due to weather. Even driving onto grass to reverse onto pitch caused damage. 

    I know grass needs maintenance but so do the HS pitches. A warden was raking one level/redistributing the gravel as we left!

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2017 #26

    We were there last year & the grass pitches were closed then too. It did amuse me that the warden put notices around & about the site and especially near our pitch 're keeping off the grass ..... I think he was hinting 👀 It was impossible to park up as requested without putting a wheel on either the grass finger to our left or the verge opposite us. I just parked on the empty grave next to us.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited September 2017 #27

    I don't care what sort of pitch individual members prefer but I want to be able to book a hardstanding one and I don't understand why the Club is so backward in providing this option. I don't a accept that this is difficult to provide. 

    David

  • ggregu
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    edited September 2017 #28

    I'm on a seasonal pitch at Bourton on the Water. Would not have taken it if it wasn't grass. The ground here is really stony and drains very efficiently. 

    My vote goes for grass. I don't want to stay in a car park!

  • ggregu
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    edited September 2017 #29

    Surprisingly, the site is really busy as it was last weekend too.

  • Tammygirl
    Tammygirl Club Member Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭
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    edited September 2017 #30

    Hard standing every time in the UK for me, just don't  trust the ground and weather enough to risk grass with a motorhome. 

    Currently in France, we've  had some very heavy rain over the last 2 weeks, yet we've  not had a hard standing once and no problem getting off a pitch.

    Agree with DK and Jayess

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