Whats it cost to get EHU free?
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When the current gas bottle is empty we will get a safe-fill, this will allow us to camp in the more remote areas in the winter. Noticed a lot of sites in Scotland and Wales don't have EHU, so we will be ready when the occasion arises. Although I don't have a Ferrari
cost doesn't really come into it, preparedness is what counts for us.On a site this year where the drinking water was peaty (not scotch) so got the life straw out, problem solved.
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Yes, reading the above posts, I can't help but agree it's not all about cost and I have said this on many occasions and I'm so pleased to see that others have come to the same conclusion. It's about freedom of choice. The fact that it DOES save me a small fortune each year is a plus and to be completely honest, that was a large consideration when I started off down the road of non EHU as I could quite clearly see that the speculation would allow accumulation - and that is exactly what has happened. Having said that, Its the less obvious advantages that have come more into focus since the journey started. The fact that Safefill can be topped up- no more worrying about have I got enough gas to last. Lightweight- non marking - no more trying to clean the rust marks off. The SP is always there. Power cuts on site(however rare) is not an issue. No reduction of comfort levels. New sites, unexplored before because of no EHU and I can say from experience that some of the non EHU sites we have found in the last 4 yrs have been stunning- one of which is unbeatable in beauty and for The kayaker and fisherman- unparalleled- I would never have found them had I been a 'peg lover'😂. This theme seems to runs through the experiences of non EHUers- they have all reported the 'freedom' thing and they have all discovered new and beautiful sites which, of course, will help to keep these 'minimalist ' sites open. I've said it before but it bears repeating- l can't ever see me going back to the EHU, as lovely as many are and I'm talking about CLs here, I get everything I need and everything I have ever wanted from my caravan- from a simple mantra- be independent! - oh and oneputt- you'll be so glad you have a Safefill! Good decision!
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HI Boff, I'm not exactly sure about what you are asking but here goes. The infrastructure of an EHU is I assume, probably the most expensive part of setting up a new CL. However, as more and more people use it, the cost goes down to a point where I would have thought a 'residual' cost is involved. This would include the safety inspections required What that is I can only guess at. It's a bit like a piece of string I think. For the popular, fully booked CL throughout the summer and well booked in the spring and autumn as well as visitors in the winter, that residual cost will be less than a less popular one. As far as electricity is concerned and here, I talk about the 'normal' caravaner- not the one who wants to heat their awning even when off site!! I have always used a 20p a day figure although I am quite prepared to be corrected on it -- this of course will go up in winter for the heating of the van and extra lighting - that will be the main difference due to the fact that even in summer, water, fridge etc is heated by electricity, why use gas when you are paying for the 'convenience ' of electric? One can get nearer the electricity used per day but the inclusive cost for the installation of the EHU facility is rather harder to put a finger on. Has anyone else got a theory on this??
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Boff, the BHPA quoted £1000 per pitch back in 2008, add inflation to that for a guess of today's installation costs. A CL owner did post consumption figures for his site but the info was lost in the upgrade. I may have them somewhere and if I find them I will repost them. Perhaps if you ask the question in the CL forum you may get a better response.
peedee
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As we stay in the UK at the moment, whether we have a caravan or motorhome we would go down the same route because we have had well equipped vans and we very rarely choose to use site facilities. If we were travelling abroad we'd re- equip with electric hot plates, griddles etc for more outdoor style living if choosing to go to warmer places. Unlikely as we seem to like turning north! I can see you love your holidays abroad as much as we love holidays nearer to home.
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When we bought our Arto 2yrs ago we factory spec,d it to give us the both options of either being on hook up or without for our own benefit.We have 2 solar panels ,1 is 100w and 1 80w , we have 3 110AH batteries and a 2300w inverter and LED lighting throughout.These options allow us to stay off hook up for as long as we like .
Brian & Jo
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Eurortraveller's comment about desalination kit was, I know, tongue in cheek but if someone can come up with a portable composter for the black waste then "true" independence beckons. We'll just have to visit the Siberian steppes or the Gobi desert to really get that away from it all feel though.
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Good idea CY, but I'm busy with the idea of fitting a wind turbine generator on the roof rack of an electric car - the faster I go the more power I generate.
And when I rent a seasonal pitch on a Club site I shall dig up my grass strip and grow potatoes, or keep sheep in the dog walk field and spin the wool and weave my own clothes. Self sufficiency you see.
And I still think paying hundreds of pounds for elaborate equipment to avoid using EHUs is bonkers and will continue to mock it.
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Apart from the fact that it is perfectly possible now, to filter water from a stream, with again, modern technology, and drink it, what is it that is 'bonkers' about making your own electricity? Perhaps you should try it eurotraveller before you knock it. I think you would be pleasantly surprised. Sarcasm does not become you. If you are not interested why post on this thread? Stay plugged in and enjoy it!
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And I still think paying hundreds of pounds for elaborate equipment to avoid using EHUs is bonkers and will continue to mock it.
Mock away ET. There is nothing 'elaborate ' about it and the kit is transferable from Van to van. You miss the point completely. I have saved far more than I ever spent on the kit. I am on site at the moment and I would put money (the money I've saved) on the fact that we are just as comfortable as you. I bet you have Calor in your locker too!!
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We don't have a microwave, a hairdryer or an electric coffee maker onboard but we can, with little effort, produce all the excellent outcomes of these items without a SP, extra batteries, inverters and the rest of the gubbins required, even without an EHU on wild camping excursions. The benefits for us of this 'frugality' is extra usable weight for other items (like grandchildren on occasions, or possibly just staying legal) and extra money in the pocket. However, possibly something more aesthetic is key for us, that near but not quite, classic 'camping' experience of our youth that many of us yearn for. Clearly, we all have differing opinions and requirements. Thankfully a towel will suffice for the hair for Mrs SF (I have very little if any hair), incidentally she tells me that hair driers can actually damage ones hair if used incorrectly and many do, and proper coffee made in a stove top perculator will do for both of us and that smell is amazing. Finally, we cook without a microwave, and still enjoy the food cooked and lovingly prepared in several traditional ways. Wow, and what a 'saving' these blessings give.
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I have a beard that I trim every 5 days or so. My barber uses a handy battery operated trimmer. I have one now. He uses rechargeables I use disposables. If anyody needs similar here is a link (mine is black!). £11
Some folk use it for cleaning up dogs
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Wow, foreign countries with Children but without power?, the award for the best 'hairshirter' goes to you AD
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It doesn't have to be a competition! I find it interesting how others do things. I couldn't help wondering how much you guys are paying for your Nespresso cuppas compared with a filter or percolator and site savings but that's your choice!
Many moons ago my young son calculated the money it cost his father to weekend in Dorset in a LWB Landy! A train and a taxi would have saved him a fortune! But he didn't choose to change either. He could have saved a lot switching to a Mini Clubman like me too!
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I don't like to enter discussions like this because I feel it getting rather silly. ET I like your advice on this forum and is very much appreciated by me but have to say your mocking this issue is not useful. Our caravan came with a solar panel that must give you an idea that they are useful. Enough said.
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So why did you enter the discussion, CB?
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coffeebreal9to5, it only started to get silly when totally uninterested parties started on about potatoes and spinning wool! Why would they post if they weren't interested in the subject? Trolls? Just to have a go at something they don't or can't understand? To show their complete misunderstanding of something that is growing in popularity and has saved many people a small fortune. Perhaps it's to show off their wealth? We can afford to go on the top sites for weeks at a time and pay through the nose. Perhaps it's to stop discussion on something they are too arrogant to accept is changing caravanning for the better. Perhaps it's just a threat to them being stuck in the matrix with their pegs and Calor bottles? Whatever it is, their comments such as they are, are not welcome and certainly not useful to a meaningful discussion. They are never going to 'get' it and as such, therein lies their problem. 'There are none so blind as those who do not wish to see' comes to mind. So what is their response? To take The Mickysf! That's all they have. Let them show their contempt - I think it's hilarious.
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I'm glad you think it's hilarious, Merve, because some have failed to recognise the humour in certain posts and I thought for one dreadful minute that you were one of them.
My personal view on this issue is that I can't see the point in spending hundreds of £s just to save a few quid on lekky. After years of not having the luxuries in my vans, I now relish them.However, that is my personal view, as I said, and I fully respect the opinions of others who choose to do things differently. Live and let live, eh?
What I do find intolerable, though, are the occasional posts trying to convert others to a different point of view and, worse still, the people who simply cannot tolerate different opinions and see them as a personal attack. They're not, they are simply putting an opposing viewpoint and the key is to see them as such and appreciate that people are different - something we should applaud.
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