Whats it cost to get EHU free?

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  • Bakers2
    Bakers2 Forum Participant Posts: 8,191 ✭✭✭
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    edited August 2017 #32

    Thanks boff I'll check that out.

    We use gas for whistling kettle and cooking. Don't use hairdryer, microwave  (rarely at home and don't have one in the van) and nothing else needs gas or electric save phone/tablet/TV.

    Don't think we need to spend more 😆.

    Not sure about your low wattage kettle savings!  We use a low wattage one when on EHU.

  • Bakers2
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    edited August 2017 #33

    Thanks boff that looks like the 'funny' socket. Do you just wire it as a plug?  Sorry for dumb question just need to be sure! Taught by domestic science teacher to wire a plug,  she insisted it was easier than preparing and cooking a balanced meal 😉. But not necessarily 95 😂😂😂

  • Boff
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    edited August 2017 #34

    Actually look at the one that mollysmummy has linked. The pins aren't parallel so you can't mix up positive and negative.  You can buy the plugs with a female cigarette socket at the other end.  So you can plug in standard accessories.  The world is then your lobster.  Just try googling 12v Caravan socket or similar and a multitude of possibilities will appear. 

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  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2017 #36

    After seeing the gaslow system on brothers MH I looked at fitting gaslow to the van, so a s a matter of interest every time I went into a filling station I positioned the van as though I was going to fill up the gas as well.  It was never a particular problem.  If I was going to go with it I would put the filler on the nearside, the same side as the cars filler. Although having the system fitted would do away with some weight i.e. 2 x colour gas bottles, I think weight would still be an issue.  Have decided not to go ahead as I don't think I will be keeping this travesty of a van much longer.

  • peedee
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    edited August 2017 #37

    Agree with Merve we are almost 100 percent 12 volt. We have a 750watt inverter and it hardly gets used but it is there if ever we need to run 230 volt appliances, usually in our case charging 36 volt electric bike batteries.

    Like DD my motor home came fitted with an inverter so all I had to do to equip it for off grid use was to fit a 120 watt solar panel which I did myself for under £250.

    peedee

  • peedee
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    edited August 2017 #38

    One of the upsides of fitting a solar panel is for keeping batteries in tip top condition not only when off grid when out and about but when the van is not in use.

    peedee

  • Boff
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    edited August 2017 #39

    Just to be clear my main objection to Netspresso is not its unsuitability for non ehu.  It is the taste of the productsealed

    I could also object to the cost per mug, you don't pay George Clooney millions if it's not make Nestle a fortune.

    I could also object to the fact that the pods are non recyclable, but mainly it's the taste  

  • MichaelT
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    edited August 2017 #40

    I could also object to the fact that the pods are non recyclable, but mainly it's the taste

     

    They are recyclable Nespresso send you a bag, yo collect them up and post them back or take to a boutique.  Maybe you are getting confused with the Dolce Gusto ones Mr Clooney advertises?

    Obviously taste is a personal thing.

  • brue
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    edited August 2017 #41

    Ah, now we're getting down to the nitty gritty of non EHU. The "wake up and smell the coffee" bit. wink 

  • Merve
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    edited August 2017 #42

    We have a 15 year old motorhome and it doesn't have a 12v socket. Got a 'funny' 12v next to socket in TV cupboard seems to have 2 small slots, never seen anything that would be likely to go in it.

    Bakers, could you not have a couple of 12v cigarette lighter sockets put in? An auto electrician would be able to do it in a trice but having said that, so could anyone with a bit of cable and 12v battery and a bit of knowledge. The vehicle obviously has 12v on it. Could you change the 'funny' socket to a cigarette type? You'll save amps using 12v instead of the inverter. 

  • Merve
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    edited August 2017 #43

    Not many are Brue! We have a cafetière, real ground coffee (I can't stand Nescafé- whatever that is?)  and water boiled by gas- keep it simple! If I can find a way of doing something that assists me to be off EHU and it does the job, That's what I'll do every time. 

  • Pippah45
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    edited August 2017 #44

    Wake up to the smell of coffee - does anyone remember the Pyrosil cookware -- I still have the coffee pot in the cupboard that certainly fills the room/caravan with the smell!  Yummy!  Of course its not the only stove top pot out there!  But if those people are so used to George Cluney's machine I guess it is a very easy way to make a cuppa! 

  • Merve
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    edited August 2017 #45

    That's it for me David-" but now choose not to" and with the modern techs now available I don't have to and I can still be on a site at £5 a night! That's what the modern techs have done- given us far more choice than we had. I too used to link to the back of the car with a lead and we managed- but that's the word isn't it- 'managed' Now we live quite as we would on EHU and we can go anywhere- to me, that is worth every penny I've spent- or rather not spent as I have saved far more on fees that I ever spent on conversion. That's what you have to remember- 'this money is going to come back to me in saved fees' You could of course do it bit by bit like Bakers, - I get the feeling she likes what she sees and she'll be going further with her project. 

  • Merve
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    edited August 2017 #46

    Peedee- I love your avitar- especially the one of you (if it is you) perhaps you should change your handle to 'peedoff'😂😂😂

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  • Merve
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    edited August 2017 #48

    Yes, I see the logic there Dave. That's one of the pluses with M/Hs- you can find places that are free and with Caravans that's not possible- if only it were!! 

  • Boff
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    edited August 2017 #49

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35605927

     

    Not that it really matters the coffee tastes yuk, but I think that a quick internet search will reveal that Mr Clooney represents Netspresso.

    Taste may be a personal thing, accuracy isn't.

    ps

    afaik both Netspresso and Dolce Gusto are both Nestle brands and doesn't the fact that you take the pods back to the Botique tell you all you need to know. 

  • Boff
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    edited August 2017 #50

    Back on topic.  Whilst we can all debate how much you can save or not by going off grid. I would love to know how much it costs per night for an average CL to have ehu.  I mean the infrastructure as well as the electricity consumed. 

  • Fysherman
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    edited August 2017 #51

    Probably cost us about £500 for a 120 w roof mounted panel and the bits to make it work. For me, it's not about the cost savings, I just like the THS sites of the other club and the interesting (non campsite) feel of them. Of course you must be independent of EHU to use them for more than a short stay.

    The fact they cost buttons (£8 - £10 per night) to stay on is just a bonus.

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  • MichaelT
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    edited August 2017 #53

    Sorry you are correct Mr C does in fact represent Nestle.

    However taste is a personal thing, many people like the coffee you don't, I don't like celery tongue-out

    As far as I know they recycle the pods, that what they said and I have no reason to doubt them but TBH I really don't give a toss if they do or don't, I could just put them in my own recycle box for the council to take away.

  • Merve
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    edited August 2017 #54

    I agree Fysh. The freedom thing is something you cant quantify. You either love it or hate it and I love it, I love being able to go wherever I like. The SP and Safefill allow me to do that and I have come across some awesome little sites since I went non EHU that I would never have discovered had I not been. One of them being my all time favourite CL. 

  • Pippah45
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    edited August 2017 #55

    I think I find more like minded people of grid too no I know I don't!   How lucky it doesn't suit everyone wink

  • young thomas
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    edited August 2017 #56

    DD, my fitted one for the coffee machine was a Waeco.

  • young thomas
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    edited August 2017 #57

    adaptor like this, perhaps....?

    towsure adaptor

    then jist plug in a 12v to USB adaptor and away you go....

     edit: sorry all just realised this advice was given earlier, hadnt read to the end of the thread...smile

  • eurortraveller
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    edited August 2017 #58

    I'm waiting for posts to appear recommending portable, modular, water purification and desalination kit. .

    Oh the freedom of not being reliant on a water tap. Go anywhere and make your own drinking water wherever you are. Take water from the sea, or ponds or ditches.

    It's about as bonkers as freedom from 240 v. EHUs.

  • brue
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    edited August 2017 #59

    Most of us like the extra choice of sites available to us if we can manage without EHU. It has cost us less than £200 to do this. No expensive kit involved but our motorhome  was already equipped to take a solar panel. It saves money at home too as we can use the solar to charge the battery.

  • young thomas
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    edited August 2017 #60

    AD, as you say, this is for curiosity....i guess you're not envisaging any changes to the power offerings at the sites you generally visit?...ie, there will still be ehu for you to use? 

    cooking outside on portable hotplates is a very popular trait, especially where the weather makes this pleasurable.

    i have one (heresy?) and a gas Cadac, so a bit of choice.

    our pals we went to Spain with, had a small outdoor two ring gas canister powered 'hotplate' that was cheap to buy (less than €20) and ran from cheap cannisters....

    however, unless something is changing for your camping style....most of this gadget chat doesnt make a lot of difference.

    as others have said, the drivers for quite a few are the 'pull in anywhere' nature of MHing, along with the flexibilty of SP and refillable (anywhere) cheap gas to support it.

    If we only stayed on full fat sites, we wouldnt be espousing the benefits we see most trips.....the two 'styles' are definitely different....

    Kjell has a Gaslow and is happy to pull in (with a caravan) to top up, unusual as most have a safefill, but it works for him...

    as a Juxtaposition, we are also happy to 'slum it' on 5-star sites with pools, which we will be doing from next week....but im sure our (impromptu) visit to the Medoc will include a few aires, too....

    have a great trip to Croatia, keep in touchsmile

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited August 2017 #61

    I like the idea of the whole back to nature thing, for some it's a gift, one that keeps giving it seemssmile I'm just too lazy to go the extra mile & like both the ease of which limitless electricity(on tap) provides. Each to their own, there is room for everyone & everyones tastes.