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  • SteveL
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    edited June 2017 #32

    Steve...Bridlington in October? perhaps, as Bakers suggests, folk are hedging their bets and trying to ensure a HS pitch but, as the Club copped out of making this an option, members have only the SP route (and associated extra income) to be sure.....nice work of you can get it..

     

    The climate on the east coast should be reasonable at that time of the year. The sea temp is still fairly warm ( for the North Sea ) so hopefully no fogs, or freezing easterly winds. Certainly a better bet than the other end of the year, in March / April. Hopefully we can get some decent walks along the coast in and visit the RSPB at Bempton Cliffs. For us it's only a couple of hours run from home, so a good site for that time of year.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2017 #33

    How would the EHU be 'activated'? A lock on the bollard? A key? Or install some switching system in the warden's office? The first is more work for the warden, lose the key perhaps. The second would cost and have to be recouped somehow? Higher fees? Also these may contravene the law regarding selling electricity which caused the inclusive charge in the first place.

    Also I've done a little homework and apart from the economy sites none of the non club sites I've looked at actually offer this option, why not? The non EHU sites all have lots of pitches? I really don't think there is a demand for this type of pitch with caravans or MH.

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2017 #34

    I agree with that last sentence - whether it's a club site ( either club) or commercial I doubt there's a significant enough demand for non EHU to warrant the change. However, I'm pretty sure that within a close radius of any of these sites there are CLs, CSs or small private sites that would quite happily welcome the extra custom and give a discount for non EHU useage. Win-win surely?  smile

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2017 #35

    We stayed there two consecutive October half terms  while eldest daughter was at Hull a few short years ago. Yes very pleasant weather and mild. Lots to do on the coast and further inland. If you haven't tried Filey do it. For me it is the loveliest and quietest of the surrounding coastal towns.

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2017 #36

    Thanks for the info CS. Although it is close, it is not a part of the country we have been to before. Hence the reason for going. Looking forward to it.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2017 #37

    What consequences? undecided

  • Bakers2
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    edited June 2017 #38

    Churning up of grass if it's been wet and movement of a heavy motorhome. They maybe none but it is possible.

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2017 #39

    C&CC offer a non-ehu option (@ a saving of £4.10) across their whole network, presumably in response to customer demand?

     

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2017 #40

    so how would the club manage the operation of a site with 'all serviced pitches' yet only charge those who 'use them'....

    surely you have the same issues of folk sneaking a tankful of water when the wardens not looking.....

    so, you lock the tap and the drain...just the same as locking/unlocking an ehu bollard which is certainly not difficult to do.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2017 #41

    yes you are correct, probably best to have service and non service pitches and if you go on a service pitch you pay extra. Much easier all round.

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  • young thomas
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    edited June 2017 #43

    AD, more and more sites (home and away) are adding in SP facilities as pitches get refurbed and improvements made, as there is certainly a demand, especially for long staying guests.

    its how these proceses are managed which reveal different approaches.

    as CS says, simplest is to just pay the flat fee if your pitch has these features.

    however, it isnt particularly difficult to hand out a key to a tap or unlock a EHU bollard, as you know, this is std practice on many sites we use, with 'Manuel/Pierre' dropping round to see you a few mins after youve pitched up, to connect you and check everything is working. 

    again, i dont have a problem with more club pitches being SP per se, but wouldn't like there to be no other option, thus raising the prices for all members, even if it was something that didnt interest them.

    ideally, for us when in the uk, it would be HS/EHU in winter and a nice patch of grass, full stop, in better weather......hence our penchant for the THS approach which someone kindly described as a field with a tap/CDPwink

    A fortnight ago, in the New Forest, this was all we needed, beautiful weather, surrounded by the wildlife with 50 odd yds spacing to the next van.....

    IMV, on Club sites, there should be a spread of all options: economy, std, hs, sp, with spacing dictating where awnings can be used, giving members choice on price as well s facilities.

    enjoy the rest of the Stay.smile

  • MichaelT
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    edited June 2017 #44

    I got a thing come up on FB yesterday from teh club saying Castleton site had re-opened earlier than planned after the refurbishment so now offered the following

    Hot off the press…our newly redeveloped Castleton Club Site in the Peak District is reopening earlier than planned on 21 July. There's a refurbished toilet block, more serviced pitches, more spacing between pitches and a new waste disposal point - will we be seeing you on site in July? Book now: http://bit.ly/2rkhlX0

    so it seems more SP is going to be the norm.

    Like most I would like to see a mix of pitches but our choice would be HS.

    Recently stayed at Highfield Farm Cambridge and was asked if I wanted EHU or not, just said yes without thinking, later found I had been charged £5 to borrow the EHU bollard (ouch) now that is a rip off.so no EHU for us next time.

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2017 #45

    Absolutely correct BB, but from what I've seen these are mostly used by tenters - I have occasionally seen both vans and MHs apparently not connected on C&CC sites but these are very much the exception. How about yourself at Salisbury recently - did you go for the non EHU option there? Were there many who did?

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2017 #46

    Even when we tented, once we had plenty of room (going without the kids) we always had an electric pitch if available. Incidentally not that easy in this country. It allowed us to use an electric kettle, toaster etc.

    Now with a caravan, unless you regularly go off grid and have the set up, I don't think many would take the option of no EHU for more than a night. My TV and coffee machine don't run very well on gas 😂 and we don't have a solar panel, extra battery or inverter.

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2017 #47

    I got a thing come up on FB yesterday from teh club saying Castleton site had re-opened earlier than planned after the refurbishment so now offered the following

    Thanks for the info.

    Given that that I get loads of emails from the CAMC it would have been nice if they sent one about this, ☹️ as we are not on face book. Is this a sign of things to come?

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2017 #48

    yes, there were a few vans not hooked up. the site was very full and all types of pitch in use.smile

    as it happens, this time we were up by the top end and we did hook up, probably because i had booked it (on 'auto pilot') a good while earlier, though when we moved to Blissford, we didn't.

    just choice, nothing more.

    at stops on C&CC sites on a previous tour (henerally, not pre booked), we didnt use ehu....

    don't have a hard policy, just happy to have choice.

    we will be away, hopefully, from Tuesday, and depending on where we go (nothing booked) we will again, take a view when we get there, wherever 'there' issmile

    forecast is nice, so a grass pitch and no ehu for 4/5 days sounds attractive.smile

  • MichaelT
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    edited June 2017 #49

    forecast is nice, so a grass pitch and no ehu for 4/5 days sounds attractive.smile

    The grass pitches in California are nice apparentlywink

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2017 #50

    Steve, of course, your right.....but one of the increasing trends is for MH to be seeking out 'transit' pitches, touring as they travel, just needing a convenient 'parking place' for the night.

    as we dont (and will never) have a decent network of aires, it would be great if the clubs could provide a pitch at a low price, especially where ehu is not needed.....most vans will have there batteries charged from the days driving, even wothout solar help.

    again, i wouldnt expect many caravanners to have the kit you describe, but it depends if the twil is wagging the dog or the other way around.

    if you want to save some serious money over a years touring, there will be an investment to make, which is easily recouped....

    incidently, my tv(s) dont run off gas eitherwink

  • JayEss
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    edited June 2017 #51

    We have all the kit to go off EHU and frequently do. We also quite like service pitches and book them occasionally. 

    What I won't do is run the risk of a grass pitch on a club site so don't use club sites when grass is in use. If I'm paying £30 a night then grass won't do and the failure to meet the clearly expressed demand to book HS because a few members were confused is disappointing 

    Many commercial sites we've used are all service pitches with no opt out if you aren't using the services. The other club has a more complicated series of options but at least you know you can get what you want rather than end up on the grass pitch nobody wants. 

    This clubs approach is odd considering the groups they claim to target. 

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2017 #52

    truesmile but is there anything wrong with a grass pitch in summer in the uk?smile

  • dmiller555
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    edited June 2017 #53

    "Anyway I thought the club was going to be ready for every type of customer!"

    Surely that means having every type of pitch available to book. It also means that there will be less of any one type of pitch for you to chose from. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2017 #54

    At present, this is what the club offers EHU included - no opt out, these are the club prices for a service pitch and non service pitch, more service pitches are being added, new sites have been all hard standing. No you can't reserve a pitch. 

    The bottom line is quite simple.

    You don’t have to join the club or indeed no one if forced to come to a club site. If you don’t like or want what the club offers (as above) then you have the choice to go elsewhere.

    But apparently a lot of people do want to come to club sites and many non club sites would love to be as popular.

     

  • compass362
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    edited June 2017 #55

    Nail on the head post......+1😇

  • MichaelT
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    edited June 2017 #56

    Nothing at all so long as it is mown nice and short and all the grass clippings picked up.  Nothing worse than wet long grass or all the clippings dragged into the van.

  • compass362
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    edited June 2017 #57

    Being a member of both clubs CMC & C&CC gives you a wider range of pitch availability & locations .

    They both have different booking systems if we can't book one particular site  we simply look for  alternitives options at both providers or any independent sites ......👍

    It's not rocket science ........😇

     

     

  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2017 #58

    Really opened a can of worms. As stated if I cant get a standard pitch I have the option of going elsewhere. Plenty of Cls, Non facility CC, and commercials in the Brecon area. My only grouse is, are these serviced pitches left empty because standards have gone. Doesn't appear likely from posts here and plenty of people ready to pay the premium for late bookings. That's OK, each to his/her own. We have taken a different option.

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2017 #59

    thanks for the summary, Corners, but i guess most of us know what the club provides.smile

    however, CT is a forum for expressing views and a good many have come out on this interesting thread.

    like you, (you'd like all pitches to be SP) some have expressed a preference for a slightly different combination, perhaps one that appeals to all of our members.....some like grass, some dont.....some want ehu, some dont....some want SP, some dont...

    as Jay states, rather odd for this club to be pushing pitches upmarket (and ever upward in price) when it's openly trying to court younger (family, cash strapped?) members.

    i also agree that being in the other club, we have the chance to tailor the pitch to our requirements....if its wet, we know we can get a HS, if its dry, we are happy with grass....(tho Jay isnt, bit she has choice, toosmile...), so a wide ranging choice makes a lot of sense.

    the HS 'cop out' was really disappointing, however, we just make more use of the other club where we can book one when needed.smile

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2017 #60

    you'd like all pitches to be SP

    BB I know you like to ruffle feathers (as you yourself have stated) to further a discussion but please do not twist and misrepresent my words, or in this case, only give a fraction of my statement. Being economical wit the truth I think it has been called, or post truth nowadays, to suit your ulterior motives or point.  

    I actually stated: in the correct order:

    I really do think that more and more pitches will become service pitches and once it reaches a certain threshold then yes have a payment for using them.

    As I said my vote is to have all pitches serviced but apply a charge to use them.

     

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2017 #61

    The water that is "sneaked"will be the same amount of water used so no need to "secure" the tap whereas EHU is not undecidedthought you might at least understand thatwink