Queueing at Chatsworth

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  • JonCaz
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    edited December 2016 #122

    We stayed at Chatsworth on 4 occasions this year. Not once did we have to queue,Maybe because I always aim to arrive well after 1 and aren't bothered which pitch we're on.

    Also if we did have to queue I certainly wouldn't feel the need to be rude to the warden marshalling the road, What does that achieve?

    As the OP says "Chill" you're on holiday! Or not on holiday whichever you choose sealed

  • volvoman9
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    edited December 2016 #123

    This is exactly it there is a small minority that just seem to think that the arrival time does not apply to them.They have no problem understanding why there needs to be set times but they just cant help trying to take advantage and abuse the system rather than go with the majority of members.I must add that in my opinion the CC is not blameless in causeing this sort of problem by allowing inconsistancy on sites which seems to create far more problems than it solves.

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  • volvoman9
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    edited December 2016 #124

    Exactly you have an incosistant setup on different sites coupled with human nature and the result is very often trouble.

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  • eurortraveller
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    edited December 2016 #125

    No trouble at Edinburgh Club Site -  admission is from 0900 every day. It works a treat. 

  • JonCaz
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    edited December 2016 #126

    I bet some still turn up early sealed

  • IanH
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    edited December 2016 #127

    Why do people arrive early, when they know that they won't get in untill the set opening times (on the very busy sites, at least)?

    Surely it is because they want to get a particular pitch or be in a certain area of the site.

    If it was possible to book a specific pitch, they wouldn't need to do so. Far more relaxing for them, for the site staff and for all those who don't want to take up the option of booking a specific pitch.

    We used a couple of commercial sites last year, where we could book a specific pitch. We used to regularly use a site in Cornwall where specific pitches were booked. It was far more relaxing and we saw no queues at all.

     

  • Mobey
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    edited January 2017 #128

     

     My understanding is that wardens are instructed that if members arrive early and there are vacant pitches that they should be admitted.

     

  • statusMoty1
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    edited January 2017 #129

    I have not heard that one before surprised

  • Mobey
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    edited January 2017 #130

    No, it is not widely publicised, or adhered to, but has been the case for some time.

     

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  • young thomas
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    edited January 2017 #132

    V9, then it must be something to do with the British attitude, as campers abroad, when given a centimetre, dont seek to take a kolometrewink

    folk arrive when their journey to a site ends.....then they go onto site.

    no stopping in laybys, no queuing outside the site causing the congestion referred to in this thread.

    perhaps if continental sites put up barriers preventing access until some arbitrary time, despite the site being half empty, you might see europeans queing and causing disruption....but generally its not like this.

    Ian, i guess folk arrive as early as they dare i. order to maximise their paid for pitch. many dont want to sit there, merely to get sited and go out for the day, and at this time of year who can blame folk for trying to make the most of the arrival day?

    yes, i know we have roolz....but to keep someone outside at 11:30 when the site is virtually empty is bonkers....and to wait until a half dozen vans clog the entrance (due to an arbitrary opening time) is just as mad...

    personally, i have no issue with not being allowed on site until the appropriate hour, i stick to the rules, however it doesnt prevent me from suggesting the rules contribute to the congestion and could easily be improved on...

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2017 #133

    I understand wardens have not been "instructed" to let people on early but if circumstances allow, then they "can" allow an earlier than normal for site arrival time to book in

  • eurortraveller
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    edited January 2017 #134

    BB, Yes, it's the British attitude.  Well perhaps actually it could be Caravan Club members attitude.

    I was at Loupian last summer, it's just inland from Meze, and the warden shuts the barrier from 1200 till 1400 and goes home for her lunch. Dutch drivers send their navigator to duck under the barrier, ask someone inside for the code, and drive in. The Brits are prepared to wait patiently for two hours and start forming a queue. Even when I told them the code they continued to wait. The rules, you see.

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  • JVB66
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    edited January 2017 #136

    Its a bit like useing public transport in some mainland countries,if you queue in an orderly manner ,you then get trampled ,as some of our over there "cousins" make dive to get on firstwink

    In this country its called manners (or lack of over thereundecided)

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2017 #137

    Your not wrong JVB. I remember at Zermatt station trying to hold back a load of other nationals ( I was much younger then☹️️) to allow a lady with a baby to exit the arriving train. Several had already barged past, almost knocking her over. 

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  • Fisherman
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    edited January 2017 #139

    I've lost this thread. Cant understand those going on about abuse of Wardens. Was that brought up here? Many are only pointing out that we have different wants in our touring and CC usage.

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2017 #141

    as members who leave a site are either heading home or moving to another destination, most are on their way long before 12 o'clock, so there are many free spaces from, say, 10 onwards.

    if the club shifted its departure/arrival time to say 10:30 or 11 o'clock, this would probably catch the majority of the early arrivals yet hardly inconvenience anyone leaving, AND everyone would be playing by the rules.

    12 o'clock (or 1o'clock on some sites) is cutting it fine for folk to get set up and away to enjoy the day, especially in the deep winter with darkness at 3:30 ish.....

    another reason why arrivers tend to push the envelope, that first day (afternoon) is very short and folk dont want to waste it....

    has the club actually asked these customers WHY they arrivewhen they do, rather than just making a rule without understanding its customers.....(i know this would be a very rare thing for cc to engage with.....)

  • Wildwood
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    edited January 2017 #142

    The idea of arrive when you want within reason is in order by me but we do have to accept that on a few sites access problems may make this inadvisable and on those sites prominence should be given to this.

    I do not see the problem with the midday departure time though as that is better for many. It should be made clear that anyone arriving before then MUST take a pitch from those free and cannot wait on the road for pitches where the occupants have not yet left. Possibly early arrivals could pay a small extra fee for this as would anyone electing to stay late where there was the room.

  • IanH
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    edited January 2017 #143

    I still see late departers as causing far more inconvenience to other members than early arrivers.....

  • huskydog
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    edited January 2017 #144

    I'm so glad i don't cause inconvenience to other members innocent

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2017 #145

    I think you mentioned that you do not agree with the rules, a "few"times  last yearwink 

  • moulesy
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    edited January 2017 #146

    How so, Ian? (Since early arrivers are breaking a specific rule, whilst "late" departers -as long as it's having asked the warden's permission - are simply enjoying one of the few remaining "perks" of club membership!)

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2017 #147

    I agree in general terms Ian. Only because by the time early arrivals are usually coming on most departers have left. 

  • Longtimecaravanner
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    edited January 2017 #148

    My hubby can't bear to site around in the morning if he has if he has something to do or somewhere to go. So many a time we have to sit in a layby somewhere along the route waiting for the twelve o'clock entry time. It has nothing to do with the best pitch etc as it is the same when we leave we are usually away from the site soon after eight o'clock. I would be happy to pay extra to be able to arrive early.

  • Kennine
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    edited January 2017 #149

    I usually plan my journey to arrive at the next site mid to late afternoon. I obviously leave my previous site before 12.00 noon as I would not like to disadvantage those who are arriving after the "No arrivals before" time.  After all, I know I will have a pitch to go to as I have phoned the site and booked one during the morning before leaving.

    So that allows me to have a leisurely drive to site, being able to stop off at places of interest en-route. 

    No problems no hassle we are on holiday.  Relaxed and chilled out. 

     

    Cheers..................K

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited January 2017 #150

    So that allows me to have a leisurely drive to site, being able to stop off at places of interest en-route.

    Much easier to do now that you've a M/H, Kennine, but did you do the same with a van on-tow, I wonder?