Increase size of CLs?
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Lovely poetic description
.The last CL I went to was a triangular scrap of land behind a farmyard, approached by a lane decorated with rusting, abandoned farm machinery, and boasting a WC and grubby washbasin in an outhouse festooned with cobwebs. We stayed one night.
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Lovely poetic description
.The last CL I went to was a triangular scrap of land behind a farmyard, approached by a lane decorated with rusting, abandoned farm machinery, and boasting a WC and grubby washbasin in an outhouse festooned with cobwebs. We stayed one night.
You are not doing your searches right ET!
I have no doubt there are some ropey CLs, but it all depends on expectations as well, coupled
with doing all you can to minimise any surprises when choosing a new one! I can give you some with beautiful manicured lawns, lovely landscaped areas, picnic tables, information kiosks, purpose laid out dog walks, full heated toilet/shower/laundry block, swings
for children, riverside, lakeside, fishing, horse riding, tank museums, swimming pools, etc...... We have visited all kinds!0 -
Please, please, please don't go down the clinical route of measuring absolutely everything on CLs! Yes, maintain the safety requirements, but try not to destroy the naturalness and beauty of most of the little sites, that is their very appeal. Club Sites
cater wonderfully for those with a straight line, mathematical fetish, even providing little colour coded sticks for those who love such details, but heaven is a little patch of grass, a few trees and shrubs, and the wonderful wildlife.I presume ttda that remark is for me? I'm not interested in being mathematically clinical, I'm just offering a thought, an idea, even a suggestion as to how larger CL sites,, as previously named 'super sites', can accommodate a greater number of unobtrusive
pitches. EV0 -
My humble apologies EV if I gave the impression I meant you.
I am sorry, was a general comment regarding CLs, not personally intended at all.
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Any site intending to have more than 5 units must apply for and obtain planning permission for a commercial site. The law provides for 5 'vans only under the exemption scheme and that is unlikely to change. Sorry for stating the obvious.
It's also clear from the posts on here, many members and CL owners are quite content with the status quo.
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Yesterday had a positive response from the Club CL inspectors re. a site that had double the units it should have. Apparently they did check and the site was again oversubscribed and they are to discuss the situation with the owner. So does this mean the
owner will:(a) revert to 5 vans or
(b) go independant and we'll loose another Cl from the network?
We love Cls and don't want the latter but don't want the serenity of most Cls spoiled either!
One CL that I reported for over-occupancy and which appeared to be a serial offender last summer appeared on the closing CL list in this month's magazine.
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My humble apologies EV if I gave the impression I meant you.
I am sorry, was a general comment regarding CLs, not personally intended at all.
ttda, no need to apologise at all, I had thrown a bit of maths into the equation and wondered if you were referring to me? EV
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True, some will be dated are but the date is usually on the view somewhere and the majority wll be olny a few years old.
There are some great web sites to use these days.
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Fysherman, Our Google picture is well over 6 years ago, and is nothing like it is today. I expect like other CL's we keep on improving such as a new road to our property two weeks ago, and now creating a dog walk in the field next door, and very few nights
without anybody in nowadays.David www.perthshirecl.co.uk
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Point well made and taken but at least they put the date on so a prospective customer can make a judgement and not just rely upon one souce of reference.
From what I see, the age of the photo's varies and a lot "down South" are more up to date.
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Point well made and taken but at least they put the date on so a prospective customer can make a judgement and not just rely upon one souce of reference.
From what I see, the age of the photo's varies and a lot "down South" are more up to date.
..We have a lot more serveilence down here ,so the photos are taken more often,than is likely in "no mans land"
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True, some will be dated are but the date is usually on the view somewhere and the majority wll be olny a few years old.
There are some great web sites to use these days.
Write your comments here...
Fysherman, Our Google picture is well over 6 years ago, and is nothing like it is today. I expect like other CL's we keep on improving such as a new road to our property two weeks ago, and now creating a dog walk in the field next door, and very few nights
without anybody in nowadays.David www.perthshirecl.co.uk
Have you informed the club of the improvements, David, so that they can update your web page?
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True, some will be dated are but the date is usually on the view somewhere and the majority wll be olny a few years old.
There are some great web sites to use these days.
Write your comments here...
Fysherman, Our Google picture is well over 6 years ago, and is nothing like it is today. I expect like other CL's we keep on improving such as a new road to our property two weeks ago, and now creating a dog walk in the field next door, and very few nights
without anybody in nowadays.David www.perthshirecl.co.uk
Have you informed the club of the improvements, David, so that they can update your web page?
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Nellie, I did not think things like this would be put on our web page as to me they are only minor things. It just worries me if folk look at the Google photo, it just looks like a wild field and could put some folk off booking. Like to think our CL site
can always be improved.David
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David, we and other members do welcome any additional information that you can give re your site. We with dogs do like an enclosed or adjacent dog walk, and notice of it might just encourage dog owners, who have not yet visited you, to use our site in the
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True, some will be dated are but the date is usually on the view somewhere and the majority wll be olny a few years old.
There are some great web sites to use these days.
Write your comments here...
Fysherman, Our Google picture is well over 6 years ago, and is nothing like it is today. I expect like other CL's we keep on improving such as a new road to our property two weeks ago, and now creating a dog walk in the field next door, and very few nights
without anybody in nowadays.David www.perthshirecl.co.uk
Have you informed the club of the improvements, David, so that they can update your web page?
Write your comments here...
Nellie, I did not think things like this would be put on our web page as to me they are only minor things. It just worries me if folk look at the Google photo, it just looks like a wild field and could put some folk off booking. Like to think our CL site
can always be improved.David
I believe Nicola W said the same thing about the google photo of Skybarn. It was taken well before it became the site it is now.
Last time I looked it was like yours David, looked like a wild field with a bit of fencing (the photo that is, not your site)
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5 vans is fine but with the burgeoning number of caravanners, I can see the argument that the OP is putting forward. Just one more space on small CLs and two or three on larger ones would ease folks booking worries. Yes, by acreage would be a useful yardstick
Some of course couldn't take more than 5 vans but many could.0 -
The CL we are currently staying on has 9 units . I have spoken to the owners who were quite surprised by my concern. We explained they were breaking the rules , their response was other CL 's did it and the site was big enough anyway ! 18 adults using 1
toilet/ shower. The owner offered to refund us if we wanted to leave!0 -
The CL we are currently staying on has 9 units . I have spoken to the owners who were quite surprised by my concern. We explained they were breaking the rules , their response was other CL 's did it and the site was big enough anyway ! 18 adults using 1
toilet/ shower. The owner offered to refund us if we wanted to leave!Please report this to, CLResponse@caravanclub.co.uk or name the Cl so that those of us that appreciate the 5 van CL system can avoid it.
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Will name and shame when we return from holiday. I have asked for a discount as they are charging 15 a night.
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5 vans is fine but with the burgeoning number of caravanners, I can see the argument that the OP is putting forward. Just one more space on small CLs and two or three on larger ones would ease folks booking worries. Yes, by acreage would be a useful yardstick
Some of course couldn't take more than 5 vans but many could.Exactly. The most sensible way to solve a growing problem. EV
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Without a change to law of the land (which is very unlikely and would be opposed by many) it's just not going to happen.
Kicking the sleeping monster runs a very real risk of getting the exemption scheme scrapped and ALL camping sites and rally sites would then need to be licenced and with the correct planning permission.
I also think the CC would be quite badly affected and lose a lot of members if that happened.
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It perhaps would be less of an issue if we still had around 5000 CLs, as in times past, rather than the current 2500 and dwindling. It would at least solve the capacity issue if not the financial viability one.
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With planning laws being relaxed why would any change to the 5 rule be any different. Its 50 years out of date and times.The number of caravans, caravaners requirements and the CL owners have all changed in the meantime.
...Its nothing to do with plannig laws it would need an amendment to the regulations covering caravan sites
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