Awful behaviour!!!

k9sam
k9sam Forum Participant Posts: 76
edited March 2016 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8cHmkMC2EInZEstWDR4MHZzS3lPWnRuc1JLVV82d3hhZGhZ/view?usp=docslist_api

See picture at link which was taken this weekend.  The season has only just begun......... shouldn't we have more consideration for our sites, fellow members and the Wardens.

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  • Alex Cassells
    Alex Cassells Forum Participant Posts: 159
    edited March 2016 #2

    Hi k9sam, looks like it has been caused by parking next to the caravan on that pitch, which is pretty bad.

    I wonder if it could have been from manoeuvring on to the pitch opposite, ie, behind the camera ? Still bad but possibly more acceptable ?

    Or did you see it happen ?

    Cheers, Alex

    Edit. Just had another look. My previous comments were assuming that post was in the middle of pitch, but it's not, it's in the back right corner. 

  • k9sam
    k9sam Forum Participant Posts: 76
    edited March 2016 #3

    There is no manoeuvre that warrants this unacceptable damage.

  • Metheven
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    edited March 2016 #5

    Not neccessarily a car or caravan, unless you know different. No excuse whatever vehicle.

  • Navigateur
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    edited March 2016 #6

    That is unfortunate.  The tyre prints show it was a 100% road tyre and the depth suggests a heavy vehicle. Perhaps someone got into a bit of difficulty there.

    I do promote the use of "grass concrete" between pitches to avoid this happening.

  • triky auto
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    edited March 2016 #7

    Undecided , Something VERY similar happened on a pitch at Black Horse Farm last weekend.A late arrivai M/home towing a large twin axle trailer carrying a sheeted up vehicle, had difficulty getting onto the pitch(hard standing) but chewed up the grass between both pitches in attempts to fit on !! Following morning it was off early .The wardens had a hell of a job tidying the pitch up !!

  • Wherenext
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    edited March 2016 #8

    Saw the same result of bad behaviour at Wirral CP site last week. Ralliers using the site in the very first week of opening have left huge, and I mean huge, divets on grass that was sodden. According to the wardens, some even drove over the tape cordoning off the worst of the grass in order to get on/off their pitch. 

    Doesn't matter how tight the pitch might be, at that time of the year there were plenty of alternatives. Wardens admit it will take ages to rectify.

    To those who perpetrated this vandalism, go elsewhere. Your membership fee doesn't give you the right to despoil our sites.

  • EJB986
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    edited March 2016 #9

    Wow....Thank goodness hanging isn't an option nowadaysWorried

  • Surfer
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    edited March 2016 #10

    Sometimes due to the fact that the pitch opposite  is occupied by a vehicle and a caravan with the hitch of the caravan almost on the road, this can make it very difficult to reverse onto a pitch even if you are very good a reversing resulting in the vehicle
    digging into soft ground.

    Not always the driver's fault because narrow roadways on site plus pitches being directly opposite one another contribute to the problem.

    I am not condoning this action, but just pointing out that sometimes there is another side to the story.

  • Navigateur
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    edited March 2016 #11

    Trouble with these locations is that one does not know one is in trouble until it has happened.  Even getting out and jumping up and down on the ground first will not always prove it can support a vehicle.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2016 #12

    Undecided , Something VERY similar happened on a pitch at Black Horse Farm last weekend.  ....

    And there are some pitches there that are nigh on impossible to reverse on ....... the warden said that most just use their mover!!!!! Sealed

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2016 #13

    Sometimes due to the fact that the pitch opposite  is occupied by a vehicle and a caravan with the hitch of the caravan almost on the road, this can make it very difficult to reverse onto a pitch even if you are very good a reversing resulting in the vehicle
    digging into soft ground.

    Not always the driver's fault because narrow roadways on site plus pitches being directly opposite one another contribute to the problem.

    I am not condoning this action, but just pointing out that sometimes there is another side to the story.

    I got shouted at a few years back for putting a wheel on the grass opposite my pitch when reversing onto the pitch. How he expected 40 ft of car & caravan to NOT encroach on the opposite pitch god only knows!

  • Navigateur
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    edited March 2016 #14

    Walking into a garden centre today I noticed a driver shouting and hornblowing at a small car stopped right in the middle of the road.  A loung lady with three children and oh so embarrased that the clutch had failed.  The unwarranted attentions of the oaf
    behind had her in tears.

    From a previous life I bring a powerful and forceful voice, so I was quite happy to drown out his tirade with words to the effect of "By your hooting I see you signal your willingness to get out and help push this young lady's broken down vehicle
    to a place of safety
    ".  He really didn't have any alternative then, and the crowd he had gathered seemed greatly amused.

    Perhaps the fluttering of lace curtains on a Caravan Club site are a similar polite sort of signal of willingness to assist?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2016 #15

    .....

    Perhaps the fluttering of lace curtains on a Caravan Club site are a similar polite sort of signal of willingness to assist?

    I'd wondered where your post was going ...... 

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  • SteveL
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    edited March 2016 #18

    Sometimes unfortunately, it is not so much the sites fault, as that folk cannot be bothered to spend a few more seconds. At Cirencester a lot of the pitches are narrow and you park your car in front of the van. Manovering onto the pitch without a mover can
    be a challenge and occasionally the grass divides will be damaged. However once positioned there is no excuse for driving over it to park the car. In the months when the grass is wet this leads to unnecessary damage. It takes only seconds to drive past and
    reverse on.

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  • Surfer
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    edited March 2016 #20

    Anothe rissue is the CC insistence that you line up the caravan with the white peg. If the pitch is on your right, not a big problem even with a long unit.

    However if the pitch is on your left, you are reversing "blind" and have to rely on your partner guiding you in correctly and with a long unit this can be difficult.

    I prefer to get as much as I can of the unit onto the pitch and then use the motor mover.  This way I don't close up the roadway reversing backwards and forwards until I am lined up with the white peg.  If not lined up, I have found it easier just to move
    the peg a few inches and every one is happy.

  • moulesy
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    edited March 2016 #21

    Surely in the situation where you have a narrow site road or difficult access to a pitch, there's little point being all macho? If you've got a mover, just unhitch and use it. Get OH to move the car while your getting the van in place. Job done, no wasted
    time, no holding up others! Happy

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  • Surfer
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    edited March 2016 #23

    Surely in the situation where you have a narrow site road or difficult access to a pitch, there's little point being all macho? If you've got a mover, just unhitch and use it. Get OH to move the car while your getting the van in place. Job done, no wasted
    time, no holding up others! Happy

    Why spend ages using the mover when the vehicle can put it more or less on the pitch thus not inconveniencing other people waiting to gte onto the pitch.  We need to use common sense and think about others instead of ourselves!

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  • JayEss
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    edited March 2016 #25

    We always use the mover to get onto the pitch. No point buying it otherwise. No mess, no fuss and less time generally. 

    Seen as a sign of failure and/or incompetence by some though. Do I care?  Not one iota. 

  • Metheven
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    edited March 2016 #26

    Has someone mentioned it was a caravan and car, and fitted with a mover Undecided, could it not be a Motorhome? or could it have been any of the aforementioned from the opposite pitch even by pulling/driving forward to far! tyres are wide and more akin to car or Motorhome

    Wow, speculate to your hearts content, even I have Happy.

  • JayEss
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    edited March 2016 #27

    Has someone mentioned it was a caravan and car, and fitted with a mover Undecided, could it not be a Motorhome? or could it have been
    any of the aforementioned from the opposite pitch even by pulling/driving forward to far! tyres are wide and more akin to car or Motorhome

    Wow, speculate to your hearts content, even I have Happy.

    Very good point. When we were at Wirral on a waterlogged grass pitch we used our mover to get the van off the grass onto the site road and it didn't leave a mark.  

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  • moulesy
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    Surely in the situation where you have a narrow site road or difficult access to a pitch, there's little point being all macho? If you've got a mover, just unhitch and use it. Get OH to move the car while your getting the van in place. Job done, no wasted time, no holding up others! Happy

    Why spend ages using the mover when the vehicle can put it more or less on the pitch thus not inconveniencing other people waiting to gte onto the pitch.  We need to use common sense and think about others instead of ourselves!

    Surfer, do think before you wrire this sort of response. If the site road is narrow and/or access is difficult, it's far quicker to simply unhitch and use the mover. It doesn't "take ages"! It also avoids the problem in the OP of grass around the pitch getting chewed up for other users. There you are - quicker and less damage done, just thinking of other users! Happy

  • huskydog
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    edited March 2016 #31

    I;m afraid i am one of those who pull up on the road next to the pitch ,unhitch the caravan ,engage the mover and rotate the caravan through 90 degrees and straight back on the the pitch in one go ,then hop in to the car and drive that on to the pitch ,
    time taken about 4 minutes ,so sorry to anyone that i have wasted 4 minutes of your holiday, but i now have a M/H so that sould now only be about 2 minutesHappy. Use left and right arrows to navigate.