Awful behaviour!!!
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Surely in the situation where you have a narrow site road or difficult access to a pitch, there's little point being all macho? If you've got a mover, just unhitch and use it. Get OH to move the car while your getting the van in place. Job done, no wasted
time, no holding up others!
Why spend ages using the mover when the vehicle can put it more or less on the pitch thus not inconveniencing other people waiting to gte onto the pitch. We need to use common sense and think about others instead of ourselves!
Surfer, do think before you wrire this sort of response. If the site road is narrow and/or access is difficult, it's far quicker to simply unhitch and use the mover. It also avoids the problem in the OP of grass around the pitch getting chewed up for other
users. There you are - quicker and less damage done, just thinking of other users!What an odd reaction Surfer, surely pitching and hitching is part and parcel of caravanning, irrespective of how one does it. I haven't a mover myself but I'd be quite laid back if someone is blocking my access while doing exactly the same job I was doing
earlier or about to do, It's not a race and I thought our hobby was a relaxing pastime, obviously not for some.
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I;m afraid i am one of those who pull up on the road next to the pitch ,unhitch the caravan ,engage the mover and rotate the caravan through 90 degrees and straight back on the the pitch in one go ,then hop in to the car and drive that on to the pitch ,
time taken about 4 minutes ,so sorry to anyone that i have wasted 4 minutes of your holiday, but i now have a M/H so that sould now only be about 2 minutes
me too HD, I will confess to not being to reverse my van at all well, and I can't remember the last time I did in the last 16 years
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I;m afraid i am one of those who pull up on the road next to the pitch ,unhitch the caravan ,engage the mover and rotate the caravan through 90 degrees and straight back on the the pitch in one go ,then hop in to the car and drive that on to the
pitch , time taken about 4 minutes ,so sorry to anyone that i have wasted 4 minutes of your holiday, but i now have a M/H so that sould now only be about 2 minutesWe do the same. I fail to see why anyone should take issue with this. People just need to have a little patience. If I continued to block the road, while messing about positioning for the wheel lock, I could understand the objection, but we don't do that.
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Surely in the situation where you have a narrow site road or difficult access to a pitch, there's little point being all macho? If you've got a mover, just unhitch and use it. Get OH to move the car while your getting the van in place. Job done, no wasted
time, no holding up others!Why spend ages using the mover when the vehicle can put it more or less on the pitch thus not inconveniencing other people waiting to gte onto the pitch. We need to use common sense and think about others instead of ourselves!
Surfer, do think before you wrire this sort of response. If the site road is narrow and/or access is difficult, it's far quicker to simply unhitch and use the mover. It doesn't "take ages"! It also avoids the problem in the OP of grass around the pitch getting
chewed up for other users. There you are - quicker and less damage done, just thinking of other users!If you have a twin axle, using the mover to position the van is not as quick as on a single axle, and I'm afraid there are a LOT of impatient people around.
I think, like us, Surfer has a twin axle. When possible we do as he has described and reverse the van onto the pitch to get it off the road, then I unhitch and OH moves the car off the road too. Then I can take my time and use the mover to get the van
exactly where I want it, and level it side to side if necessary before fitting the AlKo locks.0 -
i guess with narrow pitches, and cars parked infront of vans close to the road, as you describe, further exacerbates the issue by effectively removing all of the pitch opposite as assistance.....
i like to reverse onto most pitches and, if you dont want to cut the corner (and cause damage that way) you generally have to get the front wide enough to do this....of course, with sloppily parked cars (or ones directed to park thus) opposite, you are on a loser straight away....
Exactly right BB, quite a few of the pitches at Cirencester are far too small to be sold as awning pitches without pitch allocation, and even though the wardens know your van length, they have not in our experience been pro-active at matching vans with suitable pitches.
Last time we were there, it was very busy and only the narrow awning pitches were left, so we were told we should park the car across the front of the van, which is fine with us in theory.....but was a bit of a problem as the van was as long as the pitch was.
To do as instructed, we had to reverse the van so far back that the whole van rear of the wheels was overhanging the grass. Fortunately there were some trees between us and the pitches behind, so we did not end up too close to the vans behind.
OH did return to ask the warden if this was OK first, and he seemed rather puzzled as to why this should be necessary and came to take a look. There was however nothing he could do but agree to our plan. And even then the car was very close to the road.
(And before anyone says... it is our own fault for having a large van/first come first served etc.....let me say that when the booking was made 6 months earlier, the length of the van was stated and was well within the length limit for the site. If some pitches are too short for some vans then there may need to be some pitch allocation to fulfill all the bookings taken.)
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Surely in the situation where you have a narrow site road or difficult access to a pitch, there's little point being all macho? If you've got a mover, just unhitch and use it. Get OH to move the car while your getting the van in place. Job done, no wasted
time, no holding up others!Why spend ages using the mover when the vehicle can put it more or less on the pitch thus not inconveniencing other people waiting to gte onto the pitch. We need to use common sense and think about others instead of ourselves!
Surfer, do think before you wrire this sort of response. If the site road is narrow and/or access is difficult, it's far quicker to simply unhitch and use the mover. It doesn't "take ages"! It also avoids the problem in the OP of grass around the pitch getting
chewed up for other users. There you are - quicker and less damage done, just thinking of other users!If you have a twin axle, using the mover to position the van is not as quick as on a single axle, and I'm afraid there are a LOT of impatient people around.
I think, like us, Surfer has a twin axle. When possible we do as he has described and reverse the van onto the pitch to get it off the road, then I unhitch and OH moves the car off the road too. Then I can take my time and use the mover to get the van
exactly where I want it, and level it side to side if necessary before fitting the AlKo locks.You may be right Kjell, but this is what Surfer wrote on the "when do you start" thread
This weekend we went to Malvern Hills for our first outing this year as we need to erect our new Magnum awning on a hard standing to avoid any mud on it. We were virtually the first people onto the site and had a choice of literally any pitch.
However then disaster. First the self engaging motor mover would not engage. After a few repeated attempts it start working okay so eventually we were able to move the caravan.
So, with virtually no-one else on site, and with no difficulty of access, it appears Surfer decided to use the mover, not reverse onto the pitch. Very sensible too, it's what we would have done - but it doesn't quite agree with what they wrote
on the reply above does it? Maybe a case of "don't do what I do, do what I say"!!
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Sorry to have to say this but all of these comments about holding people up /causing delays/ obstructions etc are the very reason why we mainly use CLs and CS's and stay away from Club sites where everyone is on top of each other, unless there is no real
alternative. I go away to relax and I've enough to think about getting the van set up correctly to have to deal with some impatient so and so, glaring at me just because they've been held up for a couple of minutes.0 -
Surely in the situation where you have a narrow site road or difficult access to a pitch, there's little point being all macho? If you've got a mover, just unhitch and use it. Get OH to move the car while your getting the van in place. Job done, no wasted
time, no holding up others!Why spend ages using the mover when the vehicle can put it more or less on the pitch thus not inconveniencing other people waiting to gte onto the pitch. We need to use common sense and think about others instead of ourselves!
Surfer, do think before you wrire this sort of response. If the site road is narrow and/or access is difficult, it's far quicker to simply unhitch and use the mover. It doesn't "take ages"! It also avoids the problem in the OP of grass around the pitch getting
chewed up for other users. There you are - quicker and less damage done, just thinking of other users!If you have a twin axle, using the mover to position the van is not as quick as on a single axle, and I'm afraid there are a LOT of impatient people around.
I think, like us, Surfer has a twin axle. When possible we do as he has described and reverse the van onto the pitch to get it off the road, then I unhitch and OH moves the car off the road too. Then I can take my time and use the mover to get the van
exactly where I want it, and level it side to side if necessary before fitting the AlKo locks.You may be right Kjell, but this is what Surfer wrote on the "when do you start" thread
This weekend we went to Malvern Hills for our first outing this year as we need to erect our new Magnum awning on a hard standing to avoid any mud on it. We were virtually the first people onto the site and had a choice of literally any pitch.
However then disaster. First the self engaging motor mover would not engage. After a few repeated attempts it start working okay so eventually we were able to move the caravan.
So, with virtually no-one else on site, and with no difficulty of access, it appears Surfer decided to use the mover, not reverse onto the pitch. Very sensible too, it's what we would have done - but it doesn't quite agree with what they wrote
on the reply above does it? Maybe a case of "don't do what I do, do what I say"!!I did not read it as a statement of only what he did on this particular trip, rather as a description of what he usually does, as was mine.
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We find that to save the "glares",We arrive when the 1200 arrival "best available pitch" scramble is over , (always found a sutable pitch) and then take our time to get set up, and on day of departure either leave well before 1200 if moving sites so miss the departure hold up "glares", or if on our usual short break close to home sites leave with wardens permission
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It would seem that motor movers need to be made compulsory on all caravan sites.
I posted this a couple of weeks ago but as this site doesn't have functional search facility so I will post the gist again.
Our caravan is not currently fitted with a mover. A few weeks ago we visited Wirral CP. It was in my opinion impossible to reverse on to our pitch The roadway was too narrow. By constant practise I have made myself an adequate reverser So I am no expert.
However the HGV driver pitched next to me agreed it was impossible to reverse on to the pitches, he had a mover. We pushed the van back which was easy enough so no harm done.However I did chew up the grass on leaving. There you go I admit it. Where we were pitched in a bay required a perfectly simple lh turn to join the main site roads one way system. Again the roadway was too narrow to complete the turn without cutting the
corner onto the grass. This was despite getting within a couple of inches of the A frame of the caravan pitched opposite to the junction and positioning as far as I could to the right before i made the turn. I wasn't the only one to go on the grass at that
point and it was in my opinion in this case due poor roadway design not my poor skill, this isn't always the case.0 -
As has been mentioned before there are numerous sites on the network that have been open since a large c/van was 15ft, and without taking out pitches
to give more space it is almost impossible to alter the layout to cater for the ever longer units,hence the rise in mm sales, or in our case a much cheaper solution to a tight access pitch, a front mounted 50mm detachable tow ball and 30kg+ weight saving on the c/v
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As has been mentioned before there are numerous sites on the network that have been open since a large c/van was 15ft, and without taking out pitches
to give more space it is almost impossible to alter the layout to cater for the ever longer units,hence the rise in mm sales, or in our case a much cheaper solution to a tight access pitch, a front mounted 50mm detachable tow ball and 30kg+ weight saving
on the c/v which i have only used 3 times so farDepends what sort of car you have as to whether a front towbar could be fitted .or even allowed by type approval
..Its a huge list and the company we use is reputable
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So far, type approval only applies on the public highway, but if the country votes to stay part of Europe who knows how soon it might be changed.
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I wish I had a motor mover.
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Arriving in the dark! Not everyone has a MM. The lighting on sites is either glare or nothing. I had to guide OH I to the pitch with a torch at Blackhorse the other week. Did anyone consider this in the mix? NYE on impossible. Maybe the original offender
had no one to guide them of were victims of poor lighting on the site?0 -
Do not go down the route of more lighting on sites it need less,whats wrong with a torch and reversing lights
Write your comments here...nothing. Just might explain 'appalling behaviour" ! Actually I think all lighting should go off at a set time, once arrival times have ceased. Get a torch to get to the toilet block or use your on board facility.
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If you have a towball on the front of your vehicle by the time you have unhitched turned your vehicle around hitched up put your van onto the pitch unhitched moved your vehicle onto the pitch you will have more than one person who is glaring at you the whole
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If you have a towball on the front of your vehicle by the time you have unhitched turned your vehicle around hitched up put your van onto the pitch unhitched moved your vehicle onto the pitch you will have more than one person who is glaring at you the whole
site will be...It would not bother me in the slightest. People just need to be patient, all glaring does is tend to make people take longer, or not do things properly, or safely. In fact I would be fascinated to see one in use.
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If you have a towball on the front of your vehicle by the time you have unhitched turned your vehicle around hitched up put your van onto the pitch unhitched moved your vehicle onto the pitch you will have more than one person who is glaring at you the whole
site will be.....Its never been a problem with us and have had one since returning to tugging,and the only time you get a "glare" is usually with the 1200 arr "best pitch" chasers
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which will then enter their list of vehicles off the shelf
