Caravanner of the Year on BBC this April!

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  • dwlgll20
    dwlgll20 Forum Participant Posts: 139
    edited April 2016 #872

    I was wondering about the compatibility of this TV programme with the Caravan Club Bye-Laws e.g. Code of Behaviour paragraphs 10.1 10.2 and 10.5?

  • ABM
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    edited April 2016 #873

     

    {   Do  as  I  say,  not  do  as  I  do  comes  to  mind  !!  }

  • Bob From Dunstable
    Bob From Dunstable Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited April 2016 #874

    I am so embarrassed to be a Member of this Club that takes part in a TV programme that reinforces the opinion of many non caravanners that we are a bunch of idiots. Did anyone stop and think how this "competition" would be staged and what criterior would
    be used ? I think not, it appeared to be made up as it went along, just like children making up a game that never really gets started .

    So unprofessional, so annoying and so embarrassing.

    Two judges who clearly didn`t get on with each other, the Motor Caravanner being the stronger character and goading our Chairman into damaging his caravan ! The third judge a very wacky female living in the past. Words fail me !

    Please Caravan Club get someone who can advise your senior staff so that this disaster is never repeated.

  • GodivaNige
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    edited April 2016 #875

    Parksy's post above... nail hit squarely (and precisely) on head. Couldn't (and didn't quite) have put it better. Sums up exactly what was wrong with the programme. Very good summary

  • Mitsi Fendt
    Mitsi Fendt Forum Participant Posts: 484
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    edited April 2016 #876

    I wonder what the CCC ia making of all of this!!!

  • GodivaNige
    GodivaNige Forum Participant Posts: 606
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    edited April 2016 #877

    I wonder what the CCC ia making of all of this!!!

    They've already enjoyed their highest ever membership quota this year at almost 600,000. I suspect this figure will continue to rise 

  • Aspenshaw
    Aspenshaw Forum Participant Posts: 611
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    edited April 2016 #878

    Brian & Jo, my comment wasn't meant as nasty either. It was a simple question. I'm sorry if you thought it was loaded with negative overtones or something. 

    I like outward facing organisations which occasionally look at themselves through the eyes of others because it creates a more open minded and creative atmosphere. I have very little experience of Fun so your post opened the door to ask a question of a Funster
    to see whether I'd like it. I expected the answer to be yes with a short narrative extolling the virtues of Fun. 

    I reckon you've not put me on your Christmas card list yet but I hope you've no long term ill-feelings.

  • hostahousey
    hostahousey Forum Participant Posts: 7,240 ✭✭✭
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    edited April 2016 #879

    Just watched " BBC  Points of View " they interviewed  quite a few caravanners most enjoyed the program. Some commented on the CC 's back panel.

  • BrianJosie
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    edited April 2016 #880

    Brian & Jo, my comment wasn't meant as nasty either. It was a simple question. I'm sorry if you thought it was loaded with negative overtones or something. 

    I like outward facing organisations which occasionally look at themselves through the eyes of others because it creates a more open minded and creative atmosphere. I have very little experience of Fun so your post opened the door to ask a question of a Funster
    to see whether I'd like it. I expected the answer to be yes with a short narrative extolling the virtues of Fun. 

    I reckon you've not put me on your Christmas card list yet but I hope you've no long term ill-feelings.

    Write your comments here...hi and no none whatsoever,ive been around too long now to take such comments personally or to heart in any wayCoolyour
    card is in the postHappy MHF is an excellent club,very easy to slot into ,with everyone being on the same level and very laid back,not regimented
    in any way.The MHF forum is an excellent Motorhome resource with mountains of info and genuine help .so if you are thinking of joining don't hesitate just do it.we have been members since 2007 Happybecause
    we also use the CC a lot I just hope they will learn from all this.

    Brian & Jo

  • EJB986
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    edited April 2016 #881

    I agree MHF is arguably the best on the net....I've posted a link for convenience:-

    http://forums.motorhomefacts.com/index.php

  • BrianJosie
    BrianJosie Forum Participant Posts: 391
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    edited April 2016 #882

    I agree MHF is arguably the best on the net....I've posted a link for convenience:-

    http://forums.motorhomefacts.com/index.php

    Write your comments here...that's Motorhome Facts ,we are talking about Motorhome Fun.2 totally different clubs.

    www.motorhomefun.co.uk

    Brian & Jo

  • Aspenshaw
    Aspenshaw Forum Participant Posts: 611
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    edited April 2016 #883

    Happy

  • Molly Domino
    Molly Domino Forum Participant Posts: 161
    edited April 2016 #884

    Very surprised that this thread hasn't been closed due to the number of posts of complaint. The champions must be so embarrassed that they daren't close it down. What an advert for ct and the cc.

  • Ginger Bear
    Ginger Bear Forum Participant Posts: 9
    edited April 2016 #885

    Well Mr Chairman you should really be ashamed of yourself  allowing the BBC to portray your club members in this way and giving the general public another Clarkson view of  Caravaners' at their best'  & making us look a laughing stock. Nothing short of an
    apology before the next BBC episode is aired would be enough . It did absolutely nothing to promote the caravan club and we pay your wages , what was it .....a 105 million turnover. 

  • vivien
    vivien Forum Participant Posts: 449
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    edited April 2016 #886

    Ginger Bear, I received the generic reply from Mr Lomas, he see's nothing but good from this rubbish he called program!  We all pay our membership, but have no say whatsoever!  All we can do is vote people out at the AGM or leave and go to the Camping and
    Caravan Club.

     

  • Twins07
    Twins07 Forum Participant Posts: 14
    edited April 2016 #887

    Just watched " BBC  Points of View " they interviewed  quite a few caravanners most enjoyed the program. Some commented on the CC 's back panel.

    Write your comments here..  It's called editing!

    Only pick out whet you want them to see....

     

     

  • Wherenext
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    edited April 2016 #888

    Didn't see the programme but did read today's review in a National newspaper. The following will give you a flavour of how well it was received;

    "....if these were, handpicked from a million members, the very crème, it's little wonder Caravans generally are accorded as warm a welcome on back roads in high summer as a T**d in a punchbowl.."

    "...because almost every one of the contestants was terminally awful at caravanning.."

    "...which is BBC2's way of admitting they might have bought a pig in a poke..."

    The Caravan Club brought into disrepute? Only with caravanners as everyone else thinks this is the norm and who can blame them?

  • Wherenext
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    edited April 2016 #889

    Hope someone recorded this for IanH for his comments When he returns from his holiday.Wink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2016 #890

    Very surprised that this thread hasn't been closed due to the number of posts of complaint. The champions must be so embarrassed that they daren't close it down. What an advert for ct and the cc.

    MD, Rochelle has posted in this thread as have a few Champions. Why would any of them choose to close it? As long as everyone abides by the T&Cs and Guidelines, there will be no reason for closure.

  • PaulTS
    PaulTS Forum Participant Posts: 9
    edited April 2016 #891

    For those of you who didn't actually contact the CC directly; this is the reply I've just received. 

    Thank you for your email.  We appreciate you taking time to contact The Club and we have taken on board the points that you raise. 



    Reviews of the Caravanner of The Year programme in the national media have been, in the very large majority, positive. The amount of coverage that we have received equates to over 30 million of the general public having had the opportunity to see, hear or read
    about The Caravan Club – this is unprecedented in The Club’s history.   BBC Radio 2 Breakfast Show presenter, Chris Evans, talked positively about the programme, two days in a row.  The day after the programme he said ‘what a show… it was brilliant last night…
    we’ve got another Bake Off on our hands’.  The BBC One Show also invited participants, their vehicles and judges to be on the show where we took the opportunity to talk about the many benefits of our pastime and encouraged people to get out and explore the
    great outdoors. 

     

    The overwhelming sentiment on social media following the airing of the programme was positive, and we ranked fourth in Twitter trends on the night. Many of our industry colleagues in caravan and motorhome manufacturing and retail have actively engaged in
    supporting this initiative.

     

    We appreciate your feedback and we are sorry you were disappointed with the programme. 

     

    Write your comments here...... and that is word for word the same as the response that I received. It beggars belief that those in HQ actually believe that the Mackey taking press and commentators are actually commentating positively. 

     

    I am wondering where they got the figure of 30 million from as even a popular program attracts only about 4 million viewers?  Maybe the CC read a different facebook or Twitter page to members?  As for Chris Evans, who listens to him anyway?

    I am guessing that the CC think that its members are too stupid not to know any better and should be treated like children and told anything to calm them down!

    This Club response simply beggars belief and is indicative of the problem that clearly exists in their Marketing Department who are obviously in denial. Nearly 900 almost entirely negative comments on this website alone clearly point to the truth. And this
    CC letter is clearly yet another demonstration of a very inexperienced Communication team attempting to persuade us everything is OK, when we all know it's not. 

  • Grant2861
    Grant2861 Forum Participant Posts: 19
    edited April 2016 #892

    My wife and I were quite upset watching the caravan club show on the BBC. It is nothing like the caravaning we know and like and it was devoid of children who in our 35 years of caravaning  are a fundamental part of caravan holidays. And for an Executive
    of the £100m turnover club to recklessly drive his caravan up a muddy slope and then act surprised when he damaged the caravan is frankly appalling. The Caravan Club I know is known for setting high standards however the BBC show makes the club look like a
    joke as evidenced by all the Micky-taking I had to endure at work the next day. I certainly won't be watching the next episode!

  • Ross A
    Ross A Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited April 2016 #893

    Does  anyone know how  the  caravaners were chosen  i  am a regular a carvaner  with  the  club and  did  not  know of any one who  took part in my  local  centre  were  normal members  contacted  in any  way????

  • Oneputt
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    edited April 2016 #894

    This Club response simply beggars belief and is indicative of the problem that clearly exists in their Marketing Department who are obviously in denial

    PTS - I think you will find that the marketing department have been gagged., My experience shows that when a controversial  issue like this arises the senior management issue a non contact edict to all the staff

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2016 #895

    This Club response simply beggars belief and is indicative of the problem that clearly exists in their Marketing Department who are obviously in denial

    PTS - I think you will find that the marketing department have been gagged., My experience shows that when a controversial  issue like this arises the senior management issue a non contact edict to all the staff

    One, I think you are absolutely right.

  • ClubMemberF125896FF9
    ClubMemberF125896FF9 Forum Participant Posts: 20
    edited April 2016 #896

    I would be a bit worried about the really heavy steering, on that VW. I had one years ago and because the engine and such, is at the back, the steering was very light. I would get it checked, as it sounds like it's seizing up. But the experts said nothing
    about it. The lower torsion arms did have a problem of snapping. The ex HGv driver, you would expect to be able to revers, but when he started his reverse around the tree, both experts said, he had taken the wrong line to pull it off. Which of course he had
    not. And a finalist that made his 81 year old mum get out to see him back. The whole thing a joke.      Ray 

  • waltons
    waltons Forum Participant Posts: 9
    edited April 2016 #897

    Can anyone tell us where the 6 finalists were chosen from. I am an avid reader of the club magazine and I saw no requests to apply for the position of caravanner of the year.

    PS it was very embarasing to watch and only reinstated what the general public already think of the caravaning community.

     

  • waltons
    waltons Forum Participant Posts: 9
    edited April 2016 #898

    PS I hope the chairman will not be claiming on his CC caravan insurance for his idiotic attempt at climbing an embankment with his caravan in tow.

    Make no wonder they increase the premiums year on year.

    I truly hope my insurance will not be going up when it is due next month.

  • neveramsure
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    edited April 2016 #899

    Given that all other tv programs involving caravanners have been edited to show us in a poor light, I was not too surprised that this one did the same. After all, these programs are made to entertain the masses, it’s just that this time they had plenty of
    help from the participants and the organisers.Wink

  • huskydog
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    edited April 2016 #900

    OK, the club made an error putting this program out , but in the cold light of the day ,are we going to get pelted with eggs when we tow our caravan or drive our MotorHome , NO ,let's just get on with our hobby and do it in the way that suits each of us,.....

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2016 #901

    And save the eggs for pelting the CC hierarchy who allowed it to happen.