What rules would you change???

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  • Milhouse
    Milhouse Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited July 2016 #32

    Abolish all the rules, let people do what they like e.g dogs not on leads, speeding on site, people walking through your pitch, arrive at any time.

    Oh I forgot, silly me, its normal practice for some!

  • JCB4X4
    JCB4X4 Forum Participant Posts: 466
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    edited July 2016 #33

    Abolish All Rules - then on-one would break any.

    ie; no-one would be speeding on site etc!!

  • katieb
    katieb Forum Participant Posts: 74
    edited July 2016 #34

    We have recently returned from a 7 week tour of Scotland and stayed on quite a number of cc sites.  All were ok to excellent but the best one of all was Grantown on Spey (affiliated).  Very few rules, very few signs about the site, toilets never closed,
    beautifully kept and with a relaxed atmosphere.  I think the cc could learn a lot of lessons from this site

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2016 #35

    We have recently returned from a 7 week tour of Scotland and stayed on quite a number of cc sites.  All were ok to excellent but the best one of all was Grantown on Spey (affiliated).  Very few rules, very few signs about the site, toilets never closed,
    beautifully kept and with a relaxed atmosphere.  I think the cc could learn a lot of lessons from this site

    Apart from allocating you a pitch and taking a deposit as happens at G on S.

  • Unknown
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  • Kennine
    Kennine Forum Participant Posts: 3,472
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    edited July 2016 #37

    If we are looking for a new rule it should be that all the fools that accost fellow campers with the busy body members war cry “that’s against club rules” should be strongly reminded that “rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men” and should then be ejected from the site.  

    Write your comments here...Another member who wants all the rules dispensed with.Frown

    Of course he is entitled to his opinion, thats what forums are about 

    My opinion is that the CC on-site rules are there to ensure that everybody enjoys their holiday and certain standards of behaviour and consideration for fellow holiday makers  can be maintained 

    Cool

    A change in the rules could be :-- Those who don't want to abide by the CC's on-site rules should find somewhere else to have their caravan holidays. 

    Cool

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #38

    If rules are followed to the letter as some expect,in any situation then we would have lost all hope ,and several warsWink

  • mickysf
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    edited July 2016 #39

    Being guided by rules doesn't mean you break them! I've had wise folk guide me all my life and I'm old enough now to realise I'm still learning and l'll continue to seek that wise guidance.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2016 #40

    If we are looking for a new rule it should be that all the fools that accost fellow campers with the busy body members war cry “that’s against club rules” should be strongly reminded that “rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men”
    and should then be ejected from the site.  

    Write your comments here...Another member who wants all the rules dispensed with.Frown

    Of course he is entitled to his opinion, thats what forums are about 

    My opinion is that the CC on-site rules are there to ensure that everybody enjoys their holiday and certain standards of behaviour and consideration for fellow holiday makers  can be maintained 

    Cool

    A change in the rules could be :-- Those who don't want to abide by the CC's on-site rules should find somewhere else to have their caravan holidays. 

    Cool

    not often K but +1

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  • mickysf
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    edited July 2016 #42

    If we are looking for a new rule it should be that all the fools that accost fellow campers with the busy body members war cry “that’s against club rules” should be strongly reminded that “rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men”
    and should then be ejected from the site.  

    Write your comments here...Another member who wants all the rules dispensed with.Frown

    Of course he is entitled to his opinion, thats what forums are about 

    My opinion is that the CC on-site rules are there to ensure that everybody enjoys their holiday and certain standards of behaviour and consideration for fellow holiday makers  can be maintained 

    Cool

    A change in the rules could be :-- Those who don't want to abide by the CC's on-site rules should find somewhere else to have their caravan holidays. 

    Cool

    Not in the least K; I don't believe in anarchy.  But I do believe that before blindly accepting and complying with rules, laws, and guidance everyone should think and see whether and how it applies to the particular situation they find
    themselves in.  

    one primary consideration for me, which is left out here, is how a particular situation/action impacts on
    others! Sometimes rules are there to protect us all against the selfish and thoughtless.

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited July 2016 #43

    If we are looking for a new rule it should be that all the fools that accost fellow campers with the busy body members war cry “that’s against club rules” should be strongly reminded that “rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men”
    and should then be ejected from the site.  

    Write your comments here...Another member who wants all the rules dispensed with.Frown

    Of course he is entitled to his opinion, thats what forums are about 

    My opinion is that the CC on-site rules are there to ensure that everybody enjoys their holiday and certain standards of behaviour and consideration for fellow holiday makers  can be maintained 

    Cool

    A change in the rules could be :-- Those who don't want to abide by the CC's on-site rules should find somewhere else to have their caravan holidays. 

    Cool

    Not in the least K; I don't believe in anarchy.  But I do believe that before blindly accepting and complying with rules, laws, and guidance everyone should think and see whether and how it applies to the particular situation they find
    themselves in.  

    one primary consideration for me, which is left out here, is how a particular situation/action impacts on
    others! Sometimes rules are there to protect us all against the selfish and thoughtless.

    .but all are open to enterpritation as is proven by the vast sums of money paid to the law professionals  to untangle  them 

  • Kennine
    Kennine Forum Participant Posts: 3,472
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    edited July 2016 #44

    If we are looking for a new rule it should be that all the fools that accost fellow campers with the busy body members war cry “that’s against club rules” should be strongly reminded that “rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men”
    and should then be ejected from the site.  

    Write your comments here...Another member who wants all the rules dispensed with.Frown

    Of course he is entitled to his opinion, thats what forums are about 

    My opinion is that the CC on-site rules are there to ensure that everybody enjoys their holiday and certain standards of behaviour and consideration for fellow holiday makers  can be maintained 

    Cool

    A change in the rules could be :-- Those who don't want to abide by the CC's on-site rules should find somewhere else to have their caravan holidays. 

    Cool

    Not in the least K; I don't believe in anarchy.  But I do believe that before blindly accepting and complying with rules, laws, and guidance everyone should think and see whether and how it applies to the particular situation they find themselves in.  

    Write your comments here...I often wonder why people choose to join organisations or clubs when that organisation or club have rules which the person disagrees with. 

    My local golf club has rules to ensure safety, fair play and protection of the club infostructure. Nobody breaks those rules, because that's the conditions they signed up to.  Members  know that if they do break those rules they will no longer be a member
    of that club.  Our Sailing club is exactly the same. 

    The CC is no different, if anybody joins the CC they are accepting the on-site club rules. If they subsequently find they cannot comply, then they should discontinue their membership.

    K Cool

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2016 #45

    If we are looking for a new rule it should be that all the fools that accost fellow campers with the busy body members war cry “that’s against club rules” should be strongly reminded that “rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men”
    and should then be ejected from the site.  

    Write your comments here...Another member who wants all the rules dispensed with.Frown

    Of course he is entitled to his opinion, thats what forums are about 

    My opinion is that the CC on-site rules are there to ensure that everybody enjoys their holiday and certain standards of behaviour and consideration for fellow holiday makers  can be maintained 

    Cool

    A change in the rules could be :-- Those who don't want to abide by the CC's on-site rules should find somewhere else to have their caravan holidays. 

    Cool

    Not in the least K; I don't believe in anarchy.  But I do believe that before blindly accepting and complying with rules, laws, and guidance everyone should think and see whether and how it applies to the particular situation they find themselves in.  

    Write your comments here...I often wonder why people choose to join organisations or clubs when that organisation or club have rules which the person disagrees with. 

    My local golf club has rules to ensure safety, fair play and protection of the club infostructure. Nobody breaks those rules, because that's the conditions they signed up to.  Members  know that if they do break those rules they will no longer be a member
    of that club.  Our Sailing club is exactly the same. 

    The CC is no different, if anybody joins the CC they are accepting the on-site club rules. If they subsequently find they cannot comply, then they should discontinue their membership.

    K Cool

     

    K sit down, but twice in one day, +1

    No one is forced to join the CC are they? If you don't accept the rules then don't join.

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  • SteveL
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    edited July 2016 #47

    I can't imagine what it must be like to be so black and white that I would blindly do something just because of a rule regardless of, need, circumstance, situation, etc; but I can see that it relieves anyone that does of the need
    to think
    Undecided.  Does common sense not come into play somewhere?

    What particular rule were you thinking of? The opening paragraphs of the rules do make it fairly clear what is required when staying on a CC site:-

    d. Compliance with our Club Site Rules is a condition of membership and a condition of site usage for members and non-members.

  • Tinwheeler
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    I can't imagine what it must be like to be so black and white that I would blindly do something just because of a rule regardless of, need, circumstance, situation, etc; but I can see that it relieves anyone that does of the need to think
    Undecided.  Does common sense not come into play somewhere?

    Wardens have an element of discretion, not members.

    The rules were there when you joined, DD. What's the problem? Is this the right Club for you?

  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2016 #49

    In the interest of public safety I think someone should explain Deleted UserUsers attitude to complying with rules as given here to his dive buddies.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2016 #51

    Imagine that making this discussion so personal is against the rules of this forum to which we all signed up.   

    What? Undecided

  • huskydog
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    edited July 2016 #52

    So presumably these members who dont break any CC rules also haven't broken any other rule as they have gone through life

    I salute youCool

  • SteveL
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    edited July 2016 #53

    So presumably these members who dont break any CC rules also haven't broken any other rule as they have gone through life

    I salute youCool

    I am sure we have all broken rules at some time, either by accident, or possibly deliberately. However, what we are talking about here, is accepting that it is alright if we think it seems sensible. I think that would lead to chaos.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2016 #55

    It's not got a lot of similarity to CC site rules, though. Arrive after 1200, depart by 1200, 5 mph etc - surely they are all common sense rules so why would you, or anyone, want to break them?

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  • AlanandClare
    AlanandClare Forum Participant Posts: 22
    edited July 2016 #57

    The relaxing/chill rule which which points to a chill zone,  once in this zone one is encouraged to enjoy the scenery, enjoy the site and pay less attention to all others except of course to join fellow chillers in a bottle of fine wine, chillaxation and much good story telling by the camp fire. 

    Just a thought from a newbie observing point.

  • AlanandClare
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    edited July 2016 #58

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  • SteveL
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    edited July 2016 #59

    Chaos such as officials standing by as a child drowns because the rules said that they had to have had the proper training before entering the water.  

    I did ask about 3 hours ago what particular rule(s) you were thinking about. As the thread is about CC rules I think we should stick to them in this instance. I am sure we can all point to rules in the wider context that we would question.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2016 #61

    DD, I trust you understand what you are 'liking'. 

    I also find if offensive that you suggest those of us who follow CC rules are fools.