Late night arrivals

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  • Kennine
    Kennine Forum Participant Posts: 3,472
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    edited February 2016 #62

    If somebody wants to stay at a particular CC site fo one night. No problem, all they have to do is put their hand in their pocket and pay for a pitch.  Thats the way the business works. The LNA is a facility for those who have been unavoidably delayed on
    their journey and arrive after the Wardens office is closed.  

  • moulesy
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    edited February 2016 #63

    Although we haven't had to use them ourselves, we have often seen the LNA used where main sites have them, particularly at weekends. They are there for a reason - for folk who are, for one reason or another, unable to arrive before 8 pm. 

    The problem with allowing anyone to turn up on spec is that the warden may be unaware if someone is genuinely late or just not showing up! So they leave a sign saying "reserved". Another member turns up and decides to ignore this and stay anyway ( it'll
    happen, sure as eggs is eggs!). Cue confrontation which the warden, having knocked off for the day, can well do without. 

    No, let's keep LNAs for their intended purpose; as so often said, anyone just wanting a stopover without facilities must hbe able to find a lay by or pub car park somewhere close by!

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  • moulesy
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    edited February 2016 #65

    so, do 'visitors' (who may not be members, and not pay any sort of fee) use the LNA area if there is no specific visitor parking or the parking is shared?

    I believe that where the LNA area is used as a car park during the day, "visitors" are asked to leave before 8 pm.

  • Wildwood
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    edited February 2016 #66

    so, do 'visitors' (who may not be members, and not pay any sort of fee) use the LNA area if there is no specific visitor parking or the parking is shared?

    I believe that where the LNA area is used as a car park during the day, "visitors" are asked to leave before 8 pm.

    I agree that is the theory but I have seen cars parked there after eight. I assume if the wardens do not know who parked the car it is difficult to get it moved.

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2016 #67

    so, do 'visitors' (who may not be members, and not pay any sort of fee) use the LNA area if there is no specific visitor parking or the parking is shared?

    Visitoes are on site sor the benifit of members that they are visiting

  • JillwithaJay
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    edited February 2016 #68

    so, do 'visitors' (who may not be members, and not pay any sort of fee) use the LNA area if there is no specific visitor parking or the parking is shared?

    I believe that where the LNA area is used as a car park during the day, "visitors" are asked to leave before 8 pm.

    I agree that is the theory but I have seen cars parked there after eight. I assume if the wardens do not know who parked the car it is difficult to get it moved.

    One might reasonably expect that, if the car belongs to a visitor, they have done the polite thing and, as requested, identified themselves at Reception on arrival so the site staff should know who parked it.

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  • JohnM20
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    edited February 2016 #69

    I wonder just how many times an LNA is used genuinely for late arrivers? Has anyone on CT ever used one Because they were late? I've very rarely, if ever, seen one being used. If this is the case, why not get some revenue from it when  possible? In many,
    if not most, cases the club has gone to the expense, (our expense), of putting in an EHU bollard and in many cases tarmacking the area which isn't always the visitor car park.

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #70

    We have only ever seen them in late night arrivals when on our way out in the morning. Have never been sure if they are late or early arrivals. It does however provide a useful space for the fish and chip waggon on some sites.

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2016 #71

    The LNA is often in use at Ferry Meadows,a big M/van there friday night last week, it came on site some time sat am,we use FM a lot and quite often the LNA was in use when taking our dog off site!!  for last walk

  • Wildwood
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    edited February 2016 #72

    so, do 'visitors' (who may not be members, and not pay any sort of fee) use the LNA area if there is no specific visitor parking or the parking is shared?

    I believe that where the LNA area is used as a car park during the day, "visitors" are asked to leave before 8 pm.

    I agree that is the theory but I have seen cars parked there after eight. I assume if the wardens do not know who parked the car it is difficult to get it moved.

    One might reasonably expect that, if the car belongs to a visitor, they have done the polite thing and, as requested, identified themselves at Reception on arrival so the site staff should know who parked it.

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    I agree that they should. On one site when our daughter was visiting the site we informed the wardens who thanked us saying they wished eveyone did that but many failed to inform them.

  • JollyKernow
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    edited February 2016 #73

    During busy times, if all the days arrivals are in I will on occasion use the lna as an extension car park. Far better than having extra cars parked all around the site parking in the places that we supply as fire seperation and possibly disturbing others
    late in the evening when leaving. To me a bigger carpark is a far more important resource than an area that just maybe on occasion get used for a night stop, or an inconsiderate early arrival.

     

  • Alex Cassells
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    edited February 2016 #74

    Hi, to answer JohnM20, we had to make use of the LNA last year. We were travelling from Dundee to Blackpool and had booked an overnight stop at Troutbeck. This was because we couldn't leave Dundee until 4.00pm. We have done this a couple of times before and always made it for 8.00pm. Last year we thought we might not make it, so phoned the site enroute a couple of times to say that we might be late. Never actually spoke to the wardens, but left a couple of messages and asked for a call back re use of the LNA. We didn't get a call back, arrived just after 8.00pm, checked but reception was closed, so parked in the LNA. Hooked up, set up, no problem. Next morning, went to reception when it opened, the warden said they didn't quite catch my wives Moby number and apologised for no call back. But all went very smoothly, just as we would expected it to work. Great to know our club has these areas for such an eventuality, as I wouldn't fancy the other options of laybys etc, with 2 young kids on board. Cheers, Alex.

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  • KjellNN
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    edited February 2016 #76

    Presumably visitors' cars?

    Must be a problem at times if several campers have visitors.  I can think of quite a few sites where parking a car off the site could be a problem.

    Some pitches are big enough to allow a second car (at warden's discretion) to be parked, but many are not.

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #77

    Baltic Wharf for one. It has no on site parking, no LNA area and little parking immediately outside once the commuters have turned up and bagged it. So friends visiting had to park at the Great Britain and we met them there. Not really a problem, except for the charge, but  then I think some commercials charge for visitors.

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2016 #78

    so, do 'visitors' (who may not be members, and not pay any sort of fee) use the LNA area if there is no specific visitor parking or the parking is shared?

    I believe that where the LNA area is used as a car park during the day, "visitors" are asked to leave before 8 pm.

    I agree that is the theory but I have seen cars parked there after eight. I assume if the wardens do not know who parked the car it is difficult to get it moved.

    One might reasonably expect that, if the car belongs to a visitor, they have done the polite thing and, as requested, identified themselves at Reception on arrival so the site staff should know who parked it.

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    I agree that they should. On one site when our daughter was visiting the site we informed the wardens who thanked us saying they wished eveyone did that but many failed to inform them.

    At Ferry Meadows you need to tell warden if visitors are coming and they need to go to office to get a parking ticket with pitch number on to use the visitor car parkor face a possible wheel clamp

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  • JVB66
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    edited February 2016 #80

    The majority of sites we use normally enforce a strict one car per pitch policy ,so that fire gaps are not compromised,any visitors are cars are in areas away from the pitches, be it in designated car park or at times the LNA with a 2000hr dep

  • JollyKernow
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    edited February 2016 #81

    JK, why would there be 'extra cars parked all around the site parking in the places that we supply as fire seperation and possibly disturbing others late in the evening when leaving'?

    surely these cars should be parked (like everyone else) in accordance with spacing regs?

    ...and, if they cant due to lack of space, surely they shouldnt be on the site at all?

    Write your comments here...

    As I have said, during busy times, ie full site. If all arrivals are all in we ask all members if they're having visitors and if so to use said car park (that's written somewhere in handbook or site leaflet) and the lna, Visitors can stay as long as they
    like, even overnight (pay next day). A site with no barriers can be challenging at times trying to look after extra traffic. It has been known to walk around site next morning and find extra vehicles parked in places I have mentioned above.

    The duty warden will finish work at 8 pm, and is on call for emergencies only after that, how would one suggest the policing of visitors vehicles that arrive after that time?

     

  • KenAndKathleenReay
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    edited February 2016 #82

    We must lead a charmed life. We often need an overnight stop when returning home from Europe, given we have 300+miles to drive after Channel crossing. We have also several times fallen victim to the dreaded M25 traffic, and been in danger of arriving late. A phone call to the warden, to put them in the picture, has, so far, never failed to result in a satisfactory outcome. 

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  • lesbunny
    lesbunny Forum Participant Posts: 133
    edited February 2016 #84

    I wonder just how many times an LNA is used genuinely for late arrivers? Has anyone on CT ever used one Because they were late? I've very rarely, if ever, seen one being used. If this is the case, why not get some revenue from it when  possible? In many,
    if not most, cases the club has gone to the expense, (our expense), of putting in an EHU bollard and in many cases tarmacking the area which isn't always the visitor car park.

    We have used LNA's in the past at Morvich CC site &  Edinburgh CC site, both times were on nights when we had booked a pitch but were unavoidably delayed setting off. More recently, we were booked into Barnard Castle CC site, but a delayed train journey
    meant we would arrive at approx 8.15pm, so a quick call to the warden & she very kindly stayed open just long enough to allow us in as the LNA was now only used for a car park due to new fire regs !