Late night arrivals

JPOSH
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edited January 2016 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Can anyone give a clear description of the policy for using late arrival areas on club sites please

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  • Cornersteady
    Cornersteady Club Member Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭
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    edited January 2016 #2

    I'm not sure there is a policy, but if you arrive later than 8pm (a warden is on duty till then) then you can use one of the available spaces in LNA area. Not all sites have them and those that I have seen have an EHU but I'm not sure if all LNA have a hook
    up. You pitch as normal and then when the office opens next morning you sort things out which may include paymnet. If the toilet is locked you won't be able to have access. I would also suggest that if you are going to be later than 8pm you ring ahead and
    tell the wardens. We did this once (due to a tracfic jam) and the kind wardens came out and let us in (they were called Mellings I think - thank you again) but don't count on this happening. Hope this helps?  

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2016 #3

    To use an LNA you do have to have a booking for that 'day' and that site! Not all sites have LNAs mind. Ring ahead as suggested is the way to go as that is just polite and good mannered!

  • JPOSH
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    edited January 2016 #4

    So if you have a booking and need to use the lna am I right in thinking when totting up the bill you only pay the pitch fee and not occupancy

  • Wildwood
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    edited January 2016 #5

    I think a pitch fee is all you pay. Before planning on using one do remember mosts sites that have them have only one or two so on a bad you might miss out.

    Many double as a car park during the day and there is always the chance a car will still be there.

  • Philnffc
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    edited January 2016 #6

    You pay for the people only.

     

  • JollyKernow
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    edited January 2016 #7

    If you have a booking on a club site, you can access a pitch up to 8pm. If for any reason you might not make it by then, it would be a common courtesy to phone the site and let them know. Then if you arrive past 8pm and the site does have an lna, you can
    park in there and hook up to the electric and if there are no restrictions on the facilities you can use them too. When reception opens the next morning you pay for the persons only for the stay in lna and then for the rest of your booking. You should then
    be able to go to a pitch.

     

  • eurortraveller
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    edited January 2016 #8

    So it is possible to book in at 9am. and go to a pitch  - but not if you are coming from the wrong side of the gate. 

  • JollyKernow
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    edited February 2016 #9

    It's possible, but not set in stone. If for example you informed the site you would be there after 8pm and would be in the lna, then that pitch could possibly be used for one night by someone turning up on spec before 8pm. It's really up to the staff on
    the day.

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2016 #10

    I guess the most important thing is to keep in contact with the site if you are running late and let then know your new ETA, that's only common curtesy. After all, once they are off duty at 8:00pm they may have planned to be doing other things, even out doing the likes of the shopping!

  • David2115
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    edited February 2016 #11

    It's possible, but not set in stone. If for example you informed the site you would be there after 8pm and would be in the lna, then that pitch could possibly be used for one night by someone turning up on spec before 8pm. It's really up to the staff on
    the day.

    Write your comments here...so you are saying the wardens will sell your pitch if you say you are going to be late , I find that unlikely. I would have thought that you are allowed to go straight to the pitch the very next morning. 

  • peedee
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    edited February 2016 #12

    Some years ago, circ early 21st century I recall the Club advising that the LNA area could be used by mortohomes for night stops. Is this still the case?

    peedee

  • RJLJ
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    edited February 2016 #13

    Doubt it, a few years ago when we were new, naive members of the club we rolled up at Clumber Park on Friday at 4.30pm.  We were greeted with a hostile shocked look!  They were full, and no we couldn't stay on the late night arrivals area, it might be needed.

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #14

    It's possible, but not set in stone. If for example you informed the site you would be there after 8pm and would be in the lna, then that pitch could possibly be used for one night by someone turning up on spec before 8pm. It's really up to the staff on the day.

    Write your comments here...so you are saying the wardens will sell your pitch if you say you are going to be late , I find that unlikely. I would have thought that you are allowed to go straight to the pitch the very next morning. 

    You are not actually charged for the pitch for the night you stay in LNA, so I would think that being allowed on at 9am would be dependent on a pitch being available. If you are not paying for it and clearly indicated you would not be there before 8pm, I see nothing wrong with it being resold to someone turning up on spec. If however when you phoned you said you were prepared to pay the full nights cost, that would be a different matter.

  • peedee
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    edited February 2016 #15

    Doubt it, a few years ago when we were new, naive members of the club we rolled up at Clumber Park on Friday at 4.30pm.  We were greeted with a hostile shocked look!  They were full, and no we couldn't stay on the late night arrivals area, it might be needed.

    Might be needed! Surely the warden should have known? That is a big area they have as well, what a terrible reception.

    peedee

  • David2115
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    edited February 2016 #16

    It's possible, but not set in stone. If for example you informed the site you would be there after 8pm and would be in the lna, then that pitch could possibly be used for one night by someone turning up on spec before 8pm. It's really up to the staff on
    the day.

    Write your comments here...so you are saying the wardens will sell your pitch if you say you are going to be late , I find that unlikely. I would have thought that you are allowed to go straight to the pitch the very next morning. 

    You are not actually charged for the pitch for the night you stay in LNA, so I would think that being allowed on at 9am would be dependent on a pitch being available. If you are not paying for it and clearly indicated you would not be there before 8pm, I
    see nothing wrong with it being resold to someone turning up on spec. If however when you phoned you said you were prepared yo pay the full nights cost that would be a different matter.

    Write your comments here... So you would have to wait in the LNA till 1pm but be allowed full use of the sites facitilities. 

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #17

     

    Write your comments here... So you would have to wait in the LNA till 1pm but be allowed full use of the sites facitilities. 

    I would assume you would be let onto a pitch when one became available. The majority of leavers vacate well before the 12 noon deadline. I personally don't think it is reasonable to expect a pitch to be kept if you are not paying for it.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited February 2016 #18

    Hasn't it already been said by a 'warden' that you need to have a booking for that site to be able to spend the night on LNAUndecided

  • peedee
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    edited February 2016 #19

    I would have thought if the LNA was not required there is no harm in letting a member use it for the night. If there are no vacancies the next day he/she would simply have to move on.

    peedee

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2016 #20

    Some years ago, circ early 21st century I recall the Club advising that the LNA area could be used by mortohomes for night stops. Is this still the case?

    peedee

    I think that might just be an urban myth or wishful thinking PD, with so few available and some sites not having any at all! Our non motorised caravaner friends might not be too chuffed either if that was the case and quite rightly too. It would have to be available to all members regardless of being motorised or not!

  • peedee
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    edited February 2016 #21

    Some years ago, circ early 21st century I recall the Club advising that the LNA area could be used by mortohomes for night stops. Is this still the case?

    peedee

    I think that might just be an urban myth or wishful thinking PD,

    I don't think it was, if it genuinely is not required for those arriving late for a booked pitch why not let someone turning up on spec whether caravan or motorhome use it?

    peedeee

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2016 #22

    Some years ago, circ early 21st century I recall the Club advising that the LNA area could be used by mortohomes for night stops. Is this still the case?

    peedee

    I think that might just be an urban myth or wishful thinking PD, with so few available and some sites not having any at all! Our non motorised caravaner friends might not be too chuffed either if that was the case and quite rightly too. It would have to
    be available to all members regardless of being motorised or not!

    Write your comments here...when you say the club PD who do you mean? Was it in the rules?

  • Wildwood
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    edited February 2016 #23

    Some years ago, circ early 21st century I recall the Club advising that the LNA area could be used by mortohomes for night stops. Is this still the case?

    peedee

    I think that might just be an urban myth or wishful thinking PD,

    I don't think it was, if it genuinely is not required for those arriving late for a booked pitch why not let someone turning up on spec whether caravan or motorhome use it?

    peedeee

    I have seen what appeared to be that at Durham Grange some time ago. It was only for overnight though and I assume the wardens would need to be reasonably sure they would not be needed that night.

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2016 #24

    Some years ago, circ early 21st century I recall the Club advising that the LNA area could be used by mortohomes for night stops. Is this still the case?

    peedee

    I think that might just be an urban myth or wishful thinking PD,

    I don't think it was, if it genuinely is not required for those arriving late for a booked pitch why not let someone turning up on spec whether caravan or motorhome use it?

    peedeee

    I have seen what appeared to be that at Durham Grange some time ago. It was only for overnight though and I assume the wardens would need to be reasonably sure they would not be needed that night.

    as long as that was available to all members, motorised caravaners or not, in my eyes that would be okay as long as all booked arrivals were in. But don't forget, other opinions may be available and I don't make that call although I'm an advocate of WD!

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  • mickysf
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    edited February 2016 #26

    ...ah, a ready made aires system......i knew the club were progressive, really.......Wink

    no pitch fee either.....Happy

    ...now that really is wishful thinking!Wink And the stuff that urban myths are made of!Surprised

  • peedee
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    edited February 2016 #27

    Some years ago, circ early 21st century I recall the Club advising that the LNA area could be used by mortohomes for night stops. Is this still the case?

    peedee

    I think that might just be an urban myth or wishful thinking PD, with so few available and some sites not having any at all! Our non motorised caravaner friends might not be too chuffed either if that was the case and quite rightly too. It would have to
    be available to all members regardless of being motorised or not!

    Write your comments here...when you say the club PD who do you mean? Was it in the rules?

    Looking back in my files, I think it arose out of some correspondence and conversations I had with the Club in early 2004 about the provision of basic stop over facilities for motorhomes.

    peedee

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  • cyberyacht
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    edited February 2016 #29

    If the day's arrivals have all turned up, then it seems eminently sensible to utilise it as an overnight stopover.

  • peedee
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    edited February 2016 #30

    things have really moved on a paceWink

    I have long since given up on that BB. In any case things have moved on outside of the Club if all you really want is a night stop. I don't really tour in the UK, the only time I might is another trip to Scotland and I would wild camp on such a trip if necessary.

    peedee

  • Kennine
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    edited February 2016 #31

    The LNA is just that.  For Late Night Arrivals.  It should never be used until the wardens office is closed in the evening.  Anybody using the LNA should pay a full nights tariff.