Late night arrivals

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  • JVB66
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    edited February 2016 #32

    The Idea is okay as long as it not set in stone, but as a "possible " stop, it would need a call to the site concerned on the journey before the office closed, in case they already had someone who was booked that was running late as there are not many sites
    who have LNAs that can be used for more than possibly one outfit ,if any at all,

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #33

    Given that it would be difficult to charge less than if it was used properly for a late night arrival, I would think having read threads on the prices people want to pay for this sort of facility, most would not want to pay the £12 to £18 charge for two
    adults.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited February 2016 #34

    Posted on page 1 by a warden

    When reception opens the next morning you pay for the persons only for the stay in lna and then for the rest of your booking. 

    See full post for all the details ( JollyKernow)

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #35

    That would be the £12 to £18 charge.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited February 2016 #36

    That would be the £12 to £18 charge.

    Laughing

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  • JVB66
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    edited February 2016 #38

    SmileOr as is usual sales speak From £3 per personCool

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  • JVB66
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    edited February 2016 #41

    SmileOr as is usual sales speak From £3 per personCool

    not even the best spin doctors could get away with that one....Undecided  

    ..Harbury Fields one adultCool

  • JohnM20
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    edited February 2016 #42

    If I was running late it was almost certainly not the problem of the CC, it would be my problem. Therefore, assuming that I had a booking for the site, there must be at least one pitch available for me that, had I arrived at 1 minute to 8pm I would have
    paid for in full, pitch and occupants. It wouldn't even cross my mind that I should pay less because I had to use the LNA. It was my problem that I was late and it would be my problem that I then have to move to the available pitch the next morning, not the
    club's but I would expect to be able to move to the pitch soon after the office opened.

    Having said that, as others have said previously, if all expected outfits have arrived before 8pm then the LNA should be available and I see no reason for not allowing it to be used as an overnight pitch for outfits just 'turning up' but with the proviso
    that the user vacated the LNA by, say, 9am the following morning whether to continue their journey or to move to a pitch on the site if one was available.  Whilst it would be possible for the LNA occupants to leave without paying before the office was open
    I don't think many of us would do that  -  would we ? There could even be an honesty box adjacent to the LNA.

     

     

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2016 #43

    Good post ,I think the reason you do not pay a pitch fee is that some LNAs do not have EHU and there might not be access to the Facilities as they may be "locked",

    At Hillhead at least, some people arrive,and use LNA  as they travel long distance when traffic  lighter the night before they are booked,then expect to be let on site at 0900  

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #44

    SmileOr as is usual sales speak From £3 per personCool

    not even the best spin doctors could get away with that one....Undecided  

    ..Harbury Fields one adultCool

    Just had a look, looks a nice site. Unless they have made a mistake on the website, all pitches are serviced and at £25 For two adults peak and £19 off peak, very good value.

  • Kennine
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    edited February 2016 #45

    If I was running late it was almost certainly not the problem of the CC, it would be my problem. Therefore, assuming that I had a booking for the site, there must be at least one pitch available for me that, had I arrived at 1 minute to 8pm I would have paid for in full, pitch and occupants. It wouldn't even cross my mind that I should pay less because I had to use the LNA. It was my problem that I was late and it would be my problem that I then have to move to the available pitch the next morning, not the club's but I would expect to be able to move to the pitch soon after the office opened.

    Having said that, as others have said previously, if all expected outfits have arrived before 8pm then the LNA should be available and I see no reason for not allowing it to be used as an overnight pitch for outfits just 'turning up' but with the proviso that the user vacated the LNA by, say, 9am the following morning whether to continue their journey or to move to a pitch on the site if one was available.  Whilst it would be possible for the LNA occupants to leave without paying before the office was open I don't think many of us would do that  -  would we ? There could even be an honesty box adjacent to the LNA.

     

     

    Write your comments here...I have to agree with your first paraghaph John. I cannot however agree with your second paragraph.  I  cannot agree with a two teir use of sites, we are all customers and should be given the same consideration. 

    The LNA is there for a specific purpose, not all sites have them. They should be used for the purpose designed, For bona fide members arriving after the office is closed. 

    We don't want "itinerants" and the "something for nothing brigade"  creeping in and taking up space on the LNA overnight and creeping back out again before the office is opened in the morning. ---- An honesty box is a total waste of time. 

    K  Wink

     

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #46

    The trouble is if the LNA were used for overnight stops and this was general knowledge, it could result in more problems for the wardens. Take the scenario where there are two vans outstanding and two places in the LNA. A van turns up after 8pm and sets
    up in the LNA. Wardens would have no reason to check it, after all the office is closed. Then the two vans who are booked turn up and the Warden has a problem they could do without.

  • JohnM20
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    edited February 2016 #47

    It's a fair point SteveL but would it not be possible for a sign to the effect of  'Booked Outfits Only' or 'LNA Availble Tonight. Members Only' depending on whether or not all the expected outfits had arrived before 8pm?

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #48

    Yes John I would agree. I suppose it would have to be trialed to see if people took any more notice of these than they do of other signage.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited February 2016 #49

    SmileOr as is usual sales speak From £3 per personCool

    not even the best spin doctors could get away with that one....Undecided  

    ..Harbury Fields one adultCool

    Just had a look, looks a nice site. Unless they have made a mistake on the website, all pitches are serviced and at £25 For two adults peak and £19 off peak, very good value.

    It is a lovely site and so are the owners. We used to stay there lots when our youngest Son lived in Harbury. It started life as a CL many years ago asnd has grown and grown, they have recently added a third pitching area. Site is very well located for lots
    to do in the area.

    to keep on thread they don't have a LNA'sWink

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2016 #50

    SmileOr as is usual sales speak From £3 per personCool

    not even the best spin doctors could get away with that one....Undecided  

    ..Harbury Fields one adultCool

    Just had a look, looks a nice site. Unless they have made a mistake on the website, all pitches are serviced and at £25 For two adults peak and £19 off peak, very good value.

    It is a lovely site and so are the owners. We used to stay there lots when our youngest Son lived in Harbury. It started life as a CL many years ago asnd has grown and grown, they have recently added a third pitching area. Site is very well located for lots to do in the area.

    to keep on thread they don't have a LNA'sWink

    ..No lna? thats blown it for a cheap night then,as some wantWink

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2016 #51

    The trouble is if the LNA were used for overnight stops and this was general knowledge, it could result in more problems for the wardens. Take the scenario where there are two vans outstanding and two places in the LNA. A van turns up after 8pm and sets
    up in the LNA. Wardens would have no reason to check it, after all the office is closed. Then the two vans who are booked turn up and the Warden has a problem they could do without.

    LNA serve a purpose as LNA

  • eurortraveller
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    edited February 2016 #52

    So at 9am. next morning the late arrivers from the previous evening are allowed to book in and pitch. Yes?  

    So for the next three hours the late arrivals area can become an early arrivals area until the early birds are allowed to book in and pitch at 12 noon precisely.

    Is that too revolutionary or must the early arrivals continue queue outside? 

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2016 #53

    So at 9am. next morning the late arrivers from the previous evening are allowed to book in and pitch. Yes?  

    So for the next three hours the late arrivals area can become an early arrivals area until the early birds are allowed to book in and pitch at 12 noon precisely.

    Is that too revolutionary or must the early arrivals continue queue outside? 

    ...The ones on LNA will have a pitch available ,the early arrivers have not a guaranteed pitch untill 1200 or if some leave early when the pitches are ready if staff available

  • eurortraveller
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    edited February 2016 #54

    So you mean the late arrivals area has to stay empty from 9am. onwards while people wait outside till 12 noon? 

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2016 #55

    No they should not be at the site before 12. If people arrive before 12 it should be with agreement with the site staff!

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2016 #56

    So you mean the late arrivals area has to stay empty from 9am. onwards while people wait outside till 12 noon? 

    ...Did i say that?and on most sites the LNA is the arrivals area also

  • Whittakerr
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    edited February 2016 #57

    Is there a clue in the name. Wink

  • peedee
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    edited February 2016 #58

    Does anyone else operate a late night arrivals area? I have never used them and also have never been aware of the availability anywhere else. Many manage without them including many of the Clubs' sites so why not redesignate them for use as low facility night stops and be done with it.

    peedee

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2016 #59

    A good reason not to use LNA as night halt is that it is not in the interest of the majority of members. 

    If soebody wants to stay overnight I see no reason why they should not use the main site. That is what the pitches are there for. If they want to use CC facilities they are able to arrive before 8pm.  

  • peedee
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    edited February 2016 #60

    A good reason not to use LNA as night halt is that it is not in the interest of the majority of members. 

    and how do you know that ET? It wouldn't stop the area being used for late arrivals, all the warden has to do is stick a reserved for xxxyyy notice on a pitch/es where a LNA is expected.

    Whether it is in the interests of the majority or not, it is not making best use of space if it can only be used by late night arrivals.

    peedee

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2016 #61

    A good reason not to use LNA as night halt is that it is not in the interest of the majority of members. 

    and how do you know that ET?

    peedee

    Simply my view Peedee. There are pitches available. If anyone wishes to use one they can book in prior to 8pm (assuming no major problems occur).