Adults Only CLs Annoyance..
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I am not missing the point at all. I fully appreciate that some people prefer to be away from children for whatever reason they have and in general I would prefer to be away from those people.
How would it be objectionable to identify the potential hazards. Garileston CC site used to have a statement warning of deep water hazard and that it may not be suitable for young children. That's the sort of thing that I mean
The age group that people want to avoid is primary school age I guess yet teenagers of 17 are also excluded. Old enough to drive and have a family themselves but too young to camp on an AO CL
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JayEss, can I ask what your solution would be please? Should AO sites be banned by the CC, although in fact it is really nothing to do with them? It really is down to the CL owner, who I might add does not get any help from the CC in setting up a CL apart
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To be honest although we use AOs during school holidays we do use others during long weekends in term time. Generally there aren't children around and if they are we haven't encountered any problems. Most of the sites we choose to stay on would not perhaps
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oakapple - I believe that CLs operate under the CC exemption so it's a bit more than just a listing. What would the costs be if planning and licensing were required?
I don't have a solution nor do I propose to come up with one. It is my personal view. The CC and the CL owners can do as they wish in this regard. It is my choice whether to support AO CLs and I do not and will not.
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Having been a responible parent of my one and only gorgeous daughter, I can only comment on the fact that we always made clear that she obeyed the sites rules, No Dog off its lead, to close all gates after use, always leave the sites amenities as she found
them(any issues call mum), never ride her bike when on site, and not to bite any of the other children. If holiday makers choose to let there kids run riot at the expense of others enjoyment, Dont blame the CC AO site owners, They like us have probably had
enough.. !!!!Now the my daughters grown up, Its AO for us, If Warner Holidays are advertising Adults Only holidays then there must be a reason why..............
And choose to go Adults only
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Silly me. I thought all CLs were adults only - with a minimum age limit too - a sort of sub section of Saga holidays.
I go to campsites with unfenced rivers, unsupervised swimming pools and campfires. And families.
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It's quite simple really, if people don't like AO's don't go to them just the same if a site says no dogs I don't go there. It's choice that we all have rights to. Family friendly doesn't just mean having children with you.
we are quite happy to go to either if it's where we want to be.
Simples
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We use CL's increasingly as we prefer the value for money aspect of our caravanning. For us in similar veign to Moulsely we look for Location first and then that it has an EHU. After that frankly I don't read on. We have quite a number of CL's that we use during the year and quite honestly I have not a clue whether any of them are AO or not, it does not bother me one way or the other!
But one thing I will say is that although it has not prevented me from using a club site yet, I do recognise the concern that older members must feel on some sites during the school holidays.
Each year we take our autistic Grandson to the Longlete Club site for about 4 nights, its his favourite! But for us it can be a little testing! I have often thought that I know now what the "Old Wild West" settlers must have experienced having pulled their waggons into a circle and the Red Indians were riding around. This time the yelling was just as loud but instead of pony's the braves were riding bikes. Oh how I longed for my quiet CL with no tarmac driveways!
The CC is a broad Church and we do need to cater for all types of member. I think Jayess is being too extreme. It is a good thing that some CL's are there to provide a venue for those who for whatever the reason, prefer a quiet life. As I said it dosen't bother me one way or another, but I do think that on balance a few AO's are a very good thing. If nothing else,- just to keep the disputes to a minimum during the School Holidays!
TF
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Silly me. I thought all CLs were adults only - with a minimum age limit too - a sort of sub section of Saga holidays.
I go to campsites with unfenced rivers, unsupervised swimming pools and campfires. And families.
Yes I am quite aware of the shocking state of safety precautions at some of the ancient monuments on the other side, as well. It's strange because I thought we had to abide by the same Europe wide regulations.
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I don't mind being considered too extreme TF
It's only a view that I hold. If I ran a CL I wouldn't feel comfortable using an exemption
from a club under those circumstances and would prefer to sort out my own licence if I wanted to go AO but I recognise that others don't have such qualms.Anyway if I won't use AO CLs there's more spaces available for those who want them for whatever reason. There have been some pretty unpleasant things said on this thread about children and I'm not keen to read any more so I'll leave you all to it.
Hope the OP has a got a better understanding of why things are the way they are though
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I don't mind being considered too extreme TF
It's only a view that I hold. If I ran a CL I wouldn't feel comfortable using an exemption from a club under those circumstances and would prefer to sort out my own licence if I wanted to go AO but I recognise that others don't have such qualms.Anyway if I won't use AO CLs there's more spaces available for those who want them for whatever reason. There have been some pretty unpleasant things said on this thread about children and I'm not keen to read any more so I'll leave you all to it.
Hope the OP has a got a better understanding of why things are the way they are though
Just a thought, would it not make sense to take issue with the irresponsible parents who willingly let their children do what they like irritating other members and blow every one else. It's typical of some of today's parents.
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Just a thought, would it not make sense to take issue with the irresponsible parents who willingly let their children do what they like irritating other members and blow every one else. It's typical of some of today's parents.
Some people are too easily irritated. Why join in the bunfight. It's already covered on this thread
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When our friends ran Clumber Park site,before it was opened out as it is now,they had do do a certain amount of pitching of vans, at w/ends normally,so if families were booked in they used to try to put them near the play area away from the not secure edges of the site(open into the forest)on arrival the the response from some was "we do not want to be near the play area,we want somewhere away from it, the children will find their way there "
oht to the on one occasion a todler was brought to the officein tears lost,it took over half an hour to find the "parents?" they had not even missed her
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It's quite simple really, if people don't like AO's don't go to them just the same if a site says no dogs I don't go there. It's choice that we all have rights to. Family friendly doesn't just mean having children with you.
we are quite happy to go to either if it's where we want to be.
Simples
Write your comments here... In a nutshell,Live and let live.
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Not read all the post so don't know if it been pointed out before but there are only 378 AO CLs out of a total of 2343 that are open at the moment. That's about 7%, so obviously there's a huge choise on CLs that allow children.
I get the percentage to be 16% NTH but a year or so ago it was much higher. I wonder if recent closures have included more of the AO CLs or if some have decided to allow families again.
Either way I'm pleased to see the percentage reducing and long may that trend continue
Sorry JayEss, my maths need some brushing up!
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Like quite a few posters, we too don't look at whether it's AO when booking. We find the best campsite for that area we're visiting with EHU. Don't care if it's a CC main site, CL or whatever.
I would take issue with OP's comment that it's a large percentage that are AO. It's plainly not.
There are all sorts of CL's and isn't that the beauty of them? I don't particularly seek out CLs attached to pubs but they serve a purpose for some members and I am happy for them.
Choose a child friendly CL if that's what you want and boycott the AO's but please recognise there are some members who prefer them. It's their club as much as yours.
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We bought our caravan in order to take our son on holiday and to educate him about the wonderful places around the UK. He is now aged 12 and still enjoys his caravan holidays.
Ian Kelly
01691 622951
Caravan@BirchHill.co.uk
www.BirchHill.co.ukBirch Hill Farm – a multi-award winning caravan site in the beautiful lake-lands of Shropshire - exclusively for members of the Caravan Club
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Thank you Ian for the great comments..
Its this " Back to basics" type of camping that should be promoted to all children and the caravan club has a huge role to pay in this ( amongst others ).
It brings great honest values regarding the outdoors and kids just playing and building dens etc.. Something that seems to be rapidly being lost in this modern age of xbox's and playstations etc..
Not quite 'back to basics' for us... after a day of parent-imposed cultural visits to National Trust properties etc, our 12 year-old still likes to retreat to the world of computer games on an iPad. That seems to be the way of the world these days.
We try to book CLs that offer Wi-Fi access and we offer free Wi-Fi on our own CL, which seems to be very popular with both young and older guests.Ian Kelly
01691 622951
Caravan@BirchHill.co.uk
www.BirchHill.co.ukBirch Hill Farm – a multi-award winning caravan site in the beautiful lake-lands of Shropshire - exclusively for members of the Caravan Club
Read the reviews - look at the photos.
Number 1398 in the 2015/16 Sites Directory
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Just a thought, would it not make sense to take issue with the irresponsible parents who willingly let their children do what they like irritating other members and blow every one else. It's typical of some of today's parents.
Some people are too easily irritated. Why join in the bunfight. It's already covered on this thread
Believe me you have hit the nail on the head, it is so easy to get irritated with other people's children especially when they kick footballs around YOUR caravan and hit YOUR caravan and belt YOUR car as well, also playing cricket to near your caravan and you get a pityful 'sorry' which means absolutely nothing, run/ride bikes in between your caravan and your neighbours and behind as well, charging around the campsite screaming and shouting like hooligans and what are the parents doing? nothing except lazing in a chair swilling down alcohol. I will always stay with AO sites, each to THEIR own.
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Please can I remind people to please keep this discussion on track and not to use it to voice complaints. If anyone has any concerns regarding behaviour on site, then please report this to the warden or CL owner at the time. Many thanks.
With regards to CL Sites these are all independently run and managed and as such it is up to the CL owner with regards to whether they are adult only. Although some sites are adult only, there is a still a very large number, the majority of CL Sites
in fact at just under 2,000 sites, that welcomes families. I hope this helps.
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When the boys holidayed with us, I did sometimes find it a bit annoying when I found a CL in the area we wanted to stay was adult only, luckily could usually find another one that wasn't .
Just realised that I have booked an adult only CL for a trip this year, hadn't noticed, it's more important now that dogs are welcome.
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Imagine the furore if CLs started going 'dog free'.
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Imagine the furore if CLs started going 'dog free'.
i thought they were....free....
imagine the furore if CLs started charging for them!
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News to me KG
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