Adults Only CLs Annoyance..
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I can't understand why AO CLs are such a contentious issue, given how relatively few of them exist.
When we're looking for somwhere to stay, our priorities, in order, are - loctaion, dogs allowed, EHU, toilet, shower. All but the first two are relatively unimportant. If we find a site which is AO we'll go there, but we certainly wouldn't go specifically
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This thread reminds me of a shakespear play " Much Ado about Nothing "
There are many more sites and CL's within the CC which cater for families than those which are AO. I don't see how this can be a problem as it is giving the CC customers a proper choice.
Our priority when choosing a campsite, like my learned friend Moulesy, is 1-Location ,2- Ehu and 3-do they allow dogs. ------------- Public lavatories and public showers are relatively unimportant.as we have those facilities in our van ----- I do not care if it is AO or not.
We all have a good choice with the current arrangements they don't need to be changed.
K
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This thread reminds me of a shakespear play " Much Ado about Nothing "
There are many more sites and CL's within the CC which cater for families than those which are AO. I don't see how this can be a problem as it is giving the CC customers a proper choice.
Our priority when choosing a campsite, like my learned friend Moulesy, is 1-Location ,2- Ehu and 3-do they allow dogs. ------------- Public lavatories and public showers are relatively unimportant.as we have those facilities in our van ----- I do not care
if it is AO or not.We all have a good choice with the current arrangements they don't need to be changed.
K
..K good post and sums it up for the majority i would think
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I can't understand why AO CLs are such a contentious issue, given how relatively few of them exist.
When we're looking for somwhere to stay, our priorities, in order, are - loctaion, dogs allowed, EHU, toilet, shower. All but the first two are relatively unimportant. If we find a site which is AO we'll go there, but we certainly wouldn't go specifically
searching for one.Agree Moulesey; for us the first consideration is location too. Not having dogs your 2nd one therefore doesn't come into it, and the cat stays in the MH anyway. EHU for us isn't necessary either due to solar panel.
If an AO site/CL fits the bill, we'll go there, why not; But more often than not the site/CL will NOT be an AO one in my experience, so is it really such an issue?
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if a site (any site) were AO, would any dogs have to be 'of a certain age' to qualify....
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One of the reasons I go away in the van is to escape the grandchildren.
Other people's children do not bother me. They are not my responsibility,
that is down to the parents. Haven't been to a CL yet that was swarming with children.0 -
if a site (any site) were AO, would any dogs have to be 'of a certain age' to qualify....
No need to worry BB, most dogs are fine with all age groups, playful young toddlers, energetic children, adventurous teenagers......even grumpy old gits will get a wag!
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...most on here should be OK then, thanks for pointing that out
....irrespective of the age of the dog...0 -
apologies, it was a joke, hence the smiley, sorry for any misunderstanding and responding to an off topic post!
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Not read all the post so don't know if it been pointed out before but there are only 378 AO CLs out of a total of 2343 that are open at the moment. That's about 7%, so obviously there's a huge choise on CLs that allow children.
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Hi All, Apoligies if this has been raised before but couldn't find any previous threads on the topic..
Whilst carrying out my usual serch for the perfect CL in the Perfect location etc, one thing stuck me that hasn't jumped out at me before - The large number of CL's that seem to be "Adults Only".
It just seems that the CL lifestyle isn't pitched towards the family unit..
Just come home and playing catch up on here. I don't intend to scroll through all posts on this topic but a quick search for "Adult Only" cl's shows there are 378 in total. That's quite a small percentage to me.
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Not read all the post so don't know if it been pointed out before but there are only 378 AO CLs out of a total of 2343 that are open at the moment. That's about 7%, so obviously there's a huge choise on CLs that allow children.
I get the percentage to be 16% NTH but a year or so ago it was much higher. I wonder if recent closures have included more of the AO CLs or if some have decided to allow families again.
Either way I'm pleased to see the percentage reducing and long may that trend continue
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Usually they are AO for a reason, possibly some hazard for children and the owners find it too expensive to protect it and have no wish to be sued for not doing so.
peedee
I know that's what is usually said but I suspect it's far more to do with what they consider the market demands to be.
AD was quite correct in his reponse to this issue so I won't repeat it
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I think peedee makes a valid point. AD was talking about a number of years ago and times have changed, particularly in our view of H&S and the affect ambulance chasing law firms have on insurance premiums. I remember 30 or so years ago stopping on a farm site with my young son. To get to the facilities in the morning, you had to negotiate the cows queueing for milking in the farm yard. He thought it was great, and there was minimal risk, but I hate to think what current H&S thinking would make of it.
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All of these potential hazard issues have to be managed for adult users as well as children and even if there's such minimal public access as a public footpath crossing the land. They have to be managed for people living and working on site.
It's market forces that drives the AO decision I maintain. There is a demand for AO CLs so the demand will be met. The review section contains quite a few wishes that certain sites and CLs were AO.
I don't object to AO CLs or sites. My only issue is that the CC which I pay a subscription to uses a tiny portion of my money to help sites get started which exclude me and other family users. I object to Adult only sites being listed as ASs too. I joined the CC when my kids were young and was rather surprised to find that despite the inclusive family friendly wording of the CC there were in fact many (at the time) listed locations that I could not use purely because I travel with my children.
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I was on a CL last year and had a good chat with the owner as it's my preference for AO. He said, "I'm fed up with members continually complaining about other members brats running around like wild animals and refusing to keep them in check, since I became an AO site I've never looked back the aggro stopped immediately." His words.
Unfortunately it's the same old story some unruly children spoil it for others, the well behaved children (few and far between) are bound to be tarred with the same brush.
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I was on a CL last year and had a good chat with the owner as it's my preference for AO. He said, "I'm fed up with members continually complaing about other members brats running around like wild animals and refusing to keep them in check, since I became an AO site I've never looked back the aggro stopped immediately." His words.
Unfortunately it's the same old story when some children spoil it for others, the well behaved children (few and far between) are bound to be tarred with the same brush.
Please can you identify this CL as I will never stay anywhere that thinks it's acceptable to call children brats
I'd hate to give them my business in error and I'd like to share it with my caravanning friends so they don't either
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I was on a CL last year and had a good chat with the owner as it's my preference for AO. He said, "I'm fed up with members continually complaing about other members brats running around like wild animals and refusing to keep them in check, since I became
an AO site I've never looked back the aggro stopped immediately." His words.Unfortunately it's the same old story when some children spoil it for others, the well behaved children (few and far between) are bound to be tarred with the same brush.
Please can you identify this CL as I will never stay anywhere that thinks it's acceptable to call children brats
I'd hate to give them my business in error
As I love this CL for many reasons and one of my favourites I remain silent.
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JayEss not everyone, even some younger members caravans with kids, yet they pay the membership fee as well. All the main sites are family orientated, yet you are complaining that your subscription is used to promote a few AO CL's and affiliated sites, most
of which I think just have AO areas. We have only stayed on an AO area in an affiliated site once, and that was because the site was in an area we wanted to visit. At the end of the day it is a club with a wide variety of membership.0 -
The private sector is full of AO sites. I've used them in the past and will use them in the future. I won't use a AO CL for the reasons I've already said. My views on whether the Club should promote AO will not change.
The C&CC doesn't appear to have an option to search for AO sites and there's nothing in their guide to suggest that it's an option for someone setting up as CS. An interesting difference
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Steve - people without kids can go to every site that is listed.
There are at least two fully AO sites that I can think of that are listed as ASs
There are ways of putting families off using a site without going AO.
I think you are missing the point, some people, not us, would prefer to holiday without kids being present, enjoying themselves as kids do. I see nothing wrong in that or in the CC promoting such sites. As to ways of putting them off, I would find that thought far more objectionable than an openly declared AO site.
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