Speak the language

Brammers2
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do I need to be able to speak the language when I go to France or Spain? I'm worried that I'm not that great!!

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  • Dunclair
    Dunclair Forum Participant Posts: 127
    edited January 2016 #2

    I have been traveling to mainland Europe for quite a few years now. I don't speak any of the languages fluently but can get by in French and German.

    What I have found over the years is that if you try to speak the language, most people will  help you and some will even speak to you in beeter English than you here on some British streets.

    Just try, you will be amazed

  • ValDa
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    If you're camping, then you really just using need enough of the language to ask for a pitch for a certain number of days, with electricity.  Ten to one, they will then reply to you in English!  If you have real worries then check what language is spoken
    at reception on the Camping France website.

    I think the larger sites in both countries will probably have an English speaker, but smaller, rural campsites may not.

    For shopping, you can use a supermarket where all you really need to know is how to pay at the end!  Usually payments are displayed electronically, so you can see how much you owe, and if you're not sure you can always 'sign' for them to write it down for
    you!

    It's possible to manage with very little language, but much more fun (and appreciated by all) if you have at least the basics.

  • Mitsi Fendt
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    edited January 2016 #4

    Take a phrasebook and make the effort. Don't be like the typical Brit abroad who expects everyone else to speak EEnglish and who's idea of speaking a forwign language is to shout. I'm lucky I speak French well enough but I have been able to manage a bit
    in \spanish and German. Just imagine how you may feel when people come here from other countries and make no effort at all with English.

  • Geejay
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    edited January 2016 #5

    Couldn't agree more with Mitzi.  A few words for fruit & veg, meats, & quantity will allow you to shop at the markets which can be a much better experience than the supermarket which tend to be the same all over.

    Also, it's only courtesy to be able to make the effort to speak a bit and once you start your confidence will grow.  We can understand more than we can speak, which isn't a lot, but enough to get by on.  And the locals really appreciate the effort and try
    to help you out.

    If you go to some of the more rural sites and villages there may be no one who speaks any English.  Enjoy, and don't be afraid to try.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2016 #6

    Either a phrasebook or bi-lingual dictionary. If they don't understand your pronunciation, you can show them the words. Moi, I can point fluently in 14 languages. Wink

  • bestboy
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    edited January 2016 #7

    I have limited French obtained from a set of cds. I can usually made myself understood. Sadly I rarely understand replies!

    this results in some really interesting conversations.

  • brue
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    edited January 2016 #8

    Being able to understand what you're ordering to eat is useful, you don't want just a plateful of spinach.Wink Same in shops, suddenly the packets and tins can be a bit of a mystery. Is it really sugar you are looking at or salt....and in France dont forget to be polite, they like  a Bonjour Madame, or a Merci Madame.Smile Have fun.

  • Wherenext
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    edited January 2016 #9

    In order to avoid Bestboys dilemma the first phrase you should learn is.." I'm sorry but I can only speak and understand a little...." This takes away the possibility that like BB you end up comparing the local to a goat or something equally horrendous.Happy

    We've always found that if you really try then most people will warm to you and help you out.

  • brue
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    edited January 2016 #10

    If you want to learn what not to say look in the BBC languages section "lost for words. Smile

  • allanandjean
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    Would very much agree that it adds to your holiday if you can speak some essentials and definitely common courtesy. On our first visit to Italy I tried to be clever and ask for the half pound of mushrooms my wife wanted in Italian and metric. I thought I
    said quarto kilo but must have said quattro and, even after trying to stop the guy serving us,we were eating them for quite a while!

  • triky auto
    triky auto Forum Participant Posts: 8,690
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    edited January 2016 #12

    Undecided ,, NUMBERS !! A very important qualification.Even if your language skills are a bit lacking ,numbers helps you not getting
    ripped off !!

  • WanderingHans
    WanderingHans Forum Participant Posts: 134
    edited January 2016 #13

    This thread has just reminded me to download some language apps for the kids in preparation to our summer tour.  I know from previous visits to Spain that a single well timed 'Gracias' from a child is worth a million attempts from an adult!

  • Camdoon
    Camdoon Forum Participant Posts: 37
    edited January 2016 #14

    Spanish



    una pinta de cerveza y un vino tinto por favor

    French

    une pinte de bière et un vin 
    rouge s'il vous plaît

    This will get you through any French or Spanish holiday

  • rogher
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    edited January 2016 #15

    Take a large pad and a marker pen, assuming you can draw.

  • hitchglitch
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    edited January 2016 #16

    Look for a young person.  I guarantee he/she will speak English!

  • mjh2014
    mjh2014 Forum Participant Posts: 130
    edited January 2016 #17

    Once in Spain I needed to get the bus from Alicante to Valencia. I successfuly purchased my ticket for the 1 o'clock departure but when I got on the bus there was obviously something wrong.... The bus driver rattled something off to me, so I replied with
    my customary "I'm sorry I dont speak Spanish" (in Spanish). He repeated it louder and slower and louder and slower until he was shouting at me in single words.  It turns out some things really are universal. Laughing (Eventually
    someone who spoke English informed me that I needed to vaildate my ticket in the 'kerching' machine).

    My advice is try your best, don't forget to smile and stay calm in the face of loud, slow shouting. Polite hand getsures and a phrase boook go a long way. Making your way in other countries is great fun, but can be slow going.

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited January 2016 #18

    We have no plans to go abroad so I'll just stick to speaking English. Having said that, I did learn French and German in school but a bit out of practice now!

  • Longtimecaravanner
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    edited January 2016 #19

    I get by in France with my schoolgirl French learned fifty plus years ago but was really apprehensive about going to Germany and Austria. I did some preparation with a language app on my Ipod and had a list of basic phrases written out on a sheet of paper
    that I could point to. In the event, as others have said, as soon as I tried I was responded to in English. I was told that the Germans love to practice their English and I understand that as I get a little bit annoyed that I am not allowed to use my French
    in FranceHappy

  • mjh2014
    mjh2014 Forum Participant Posts: 130
    edited January 2016 #20

    Undecided ,, NUMBERS !! A very important qualification.Even if your language skills are a bit lacking ,numbers helps you not getting
    ripped off !!

    A few years ago in Italy ( nr Venice) bingo was all the rage. I wonder if it still is... Playing bingo in a foreign language  certainly sharpens up those numbers. Happy 

  • huskydog
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    edited January 2016 #21

    my view on this ,is that if you are going to visit a particular country then you should fully embrace it by learning a few phrases of the language and trying the local food ,isn't that why you go ????

  • ABM
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    edited January 2016 #22

    So  very  true,  Huskypup  ==  now  you  know  why  I  struggle  so  much  in  Scotland 
    Embarassed

  • MichaelDerby
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    edited January 2016 #23

    When on the Continent, why is it that whenever we sit down in a restaurant for a meal, the waiter walks up and says "would you like a menu in English sir?.  This is before we have even opened our mouths!

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2016 #24

    Disconcerting, isn't it?

  • Whittakerr
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    edited January 2016 #25

    When on the Continent, why is it that whenever we sit down in a restaurant for a meal, the waiter walks up and says "would you like a menu in English sir?.  This is before we have even opened our mouths!

    Could it be the socks and sandals, and the knotted hanky on the head gives something away.HappyWink

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  • BlueVanMan
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    edited January 2016 #27

    My French isn't very good but I was registering at the municipal site in Annecy and speaking to the warden in French. An English couple were in the queue behind me. As we left the office they asked me if I spoke English. I was thrilled.

    In 2014 in a restaurant in Paris an attractive English lady at the adjacent table congratulated me on my French accent. We had a very pleasant chat. When we left my wife asked me if I recognised the person I was speaking too. I didn't. It was Leslie Ash. 

  • JohnDH
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    edited January 2016 #28

    If I have to speak any lingo, then its too crowded for me.

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2016 #29

    When some friends of ours bought a house in a village in Brittany they spent months doing a language course ,but then had the problem that all the locals wanted them to teach them the international language of englishWink,

    we have found that if you are polite and attempt the Lingo then normally "locals" will help,but if you do not even attempt it then "some" will be "awkward?"Undecided

  • EJB986
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    edited January 2016 #30

    Last year we had our first holiday in France...I don't speak any French apart from 'Bonjour'.

    If we were buying the seller spoke English....if we were asking advice a shrug and a 'go away gesture' was the response.

    Found some people, particularly males (bus drivers the worst), quite unpleasant.

    Will be back again this year to see all the scruffy falling down houses.But the scenery is on a par with most European countries.

    PS. Lived in Germany for nearly 20 years and since then we have crossed the channel once or twice a year for the last 30 years.....Obviously we speak fairly good German!

  • eurortraveller
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    edited January 2016 #31

    When on the Continent, why is it that whenever we sit down in a restaurant for a meal, the waiter walks up and says "would you like a menu in English sir?.  This is before we have even opened our mouths!

    He brought us the menu in English too. It said "Rifleman's net in her worked in the crystallised lemons". So we asked for the menu in French. It was fish in sauce.