2025 Monthly Open and Closed CL List

Any Chance the CL POIs can be updated please Maddie

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@DaveCyn Sorry why would I want to lower my expectations or go back to basics for my holidays just so CLs remains? Ok I realise that's a bit extreme linking those two but that's appears to be what you're saying there?

Members join, and rejoin the club of course, for specific reasons, and especially for those using club sites it appears that what the club is offering in terms of facilities on sites including all those things you mentioned is what members want? I recall an interview with a very popular CL owner (I forgot the name but it keeps winning awards) who said to attract customers it had to put in what they wanted, like HS, SP… and also of course to make the CL viable throughout the year.

But I would think that there are other reasons those CLs close, perhaps they want to expand and leave the CL network?

@peedee Lost me there PD, what sweeping statement?

Perhaps you could you quote and highlight where I said all members PD, To be clear I said members join for specific reasons (which logically must be true for anyone joining), now I didn't say what these specific reasons were but obviously they are different which I thought I had made it clear when I even narrowed it down to those members joining for using club sites

'especially for those using club sites'

And these are the members I was talking about - those members using club sites, not the All you've put in. Hope that clear now?

I would say again it's fairly safe to say that for those joining to club sites they must join for what club sites are like now, that is HS, SP, EHU… all the things that are there in most, if not the vast majority, of club sites.

Ok they could have joined not knowing what to expect but they then continue their membership so they must like what they find?

And I would say as that those sites that do not have these facilities, or are more basic, are closing/not being used enough, so in my view it's valid to say they are not what current members want as the more basic sites are not being used enough or not viable enough while 'full fat sites' appear to be?

Now is this trend wanting better facilities now being felt on CLs as well as club sites. Judging simply by the latest open/close list perhaps it is?

A couple of things Dave. You mention the cost of certain provisions but a CL has to supply fresh water and an Elsan emptying point. The rest is optional.

I have noticed that, by and large, the CLs that only provide the "basics", certainly those without EHU are actually holding their own thanks to members like yourself who seek them out and prefer them. We're not adversed to a spot of back to basics every now and then. Then you have those that have been on the books for quite some time but have only really added EHU to the basics. I've noticed these are more likely to close than almost all other categories. Those that have set up recently, particularly those with Serviced pitches and/or toilet blocks ,have tended to attract custom.

We have stayed at a couple of those on the last closed list. Both were decent enough CLs with EHU but grass pitches with no facilities. Fine by us but I think there was not enough people like us to make it economically worthwhile with the huge percentage increases overheads in recent years especially energy prices.

The club have recently closed numerous sites that have no toilet block and are "out of the way" A change in the split in M/Hs and Caravans ownership will also have an effect. If members wanted basic sites then these sites would have been used more. However, I do think the club set the prices for these too high to attract those people. Maybe that was their objective all along.

It looks like a couple of the new CLs are indeed basic. Neither seem to have gone out of their way to entice me to stay. No real details about the site or what's around in the area and the sole photos tell me nothing except I don't want to be there.

@DavidKlyne once upon a time the "club" used to publish the reason why a CL has closed but no longer does that! I tend to think that it doesn't want members to see that some have moved on to be small commercial sites, and so be in the position to take trade away from club sites.

there is a growing group of vanners who don’t want or need ehu and don’t need toilets etc. There are several flourishing Facebook sites on these. We almost exclusively use CL and CS sites, mostly without ehu. We welcome the move to metered electricity. We are on a nice little site currently for two nights, a spur of the moment get away because an appointment was cancelled. It is a fairly new CL, ehu is optional and metered if used. They are developing some hard standings but their USP is a couple of fenced pitches for those with dogs. We are paying £10 a night. We certainly couldn’t afford such spur of the moment trips at, say £30 a night at club sites.
I think there are various reasons for CL owners giving up, and it is a shame we don’t get the reasons as we used to. There are a few new Aires developing where previously they might have thought to become CLs. One not far from where we live, all hard standings, water and elsan point, but no one needed on site, book in by email, payment either on line or honesty box.

Wow!

So 3 new ones but 13 lost!

Not great!

Who advises these new owners? Will members really want to stay on a grass field with no facilities and no EHU for £30 per night? Really? Does make one wish you could eavesdrop on how that figure was decided upon.

I would say that it is quite obvious @Wherenext that it is the site inspectors, under instructions from HO, as they want members to think they are getting a bargain when using club sites.

@Wherenext +1; this member certainly won't! I doubt they'll get (m)any customers at that price.