Steamer Quay Upgrade

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  • ScreenNameF407C5A994
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    edited November 2023 #62

    Hi, I was also in the area a few months ago and spoke to local people walking dogs who say it's being sold for housing. 

    The days of Steamer Quay are gone. It was a nice site, quiet and local to the town but as always, money talks. 

  • JollyKernow
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    edited November 2023 #63

     Sorry but your information is wrong. You only have to look at the south hams planning website to see what the club is intending. There are times planning takes an age but finally when the green light goes on it will be a brilliant all year site. 

    JK

  • peedee
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    edited November 2023 #64

    I am assuming that because of this notification "Application re-advertised - within consultation/publicity period" on the South Hams site that plans have altered sufficiently for the council to re-advertise for comments, hence the delays?

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  • peedee
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    edited December 2023 #65

    Conditional approval to go ahead with the site development has been given.

    peedee

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2023 #66

    That is good news. Just need to know the timetable now.

    David

  • peedee
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    edited December 2023 #67

    The council web site indicates it is still pending, I may have jumped the gun and it might only be a recommendation to the committee that conditional approval be given. Even so its progress and if finally approved, I cannot see the site opening until well into 2024.

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2023 #68

    Just come across this very enthusiastic YouTube video about Steamer Quay suggesting that approval has been given for the redevelopment of the site. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI2UwYCem0s Thought I would share.

    David

  • Frank Gill
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    edited December 2023 #69

    Looked on South Hams planning portal and still show's pending. Hope they can soon push on with the work's with ehu will be a local site to us we would make good use of.

  • peedee
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    edited December 2023 #70

    The Club's plans were up for discussion at the Devolopment and Management Committee meeting on the 13th December. If they were approved, as alleged on other social media, this has not been officially published yet.

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  • peedee
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    edited December 2023 #71

    Formal conditional approval was published yesterday. I note from the approved plans all the pitches look as though they are fully serviced non awning. No choice there then.

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2023 #72

    Looks as if its going to be more geared towards motorhomers? That sort of makes sense when Hillhead is not that far away which offers much more room for a mix of pitches and of course as caravanners have cars Totnes is not that far away for a visit. If they were to include metering with the refurb that would offer more choice to those that are more self sufficient? Lets hope they get on with it now!

    David 

  • peedee
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    edited December 2023 #73

    I doubt it is geared towards motorhomes, if it was it could have been done much, much cheaper. Don't forget there is motorhome stopover parking quite close.

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2023 #74

    I would say it is geared towards those motorhomers that want to use their motorhomes with fully service pitches. There is a difference.

    There is this perception (false in my view) that MH either don't want (or need) SP yet on the sites I've on this year it the SP have used very much by MHs, certainly always above 50% and often approaching 80%, and often with foreign motorhomes too in Scotland. So it is really a popular option for those with MHs on club sites and the club is responding to that, if MH didn't use SP in such good numbers it wouldn't in my view.

    And of course there is always a choice and it will attract those members who favour that. I would imagine it's going to be popular.

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2023 #76

    Personally I don't see the car park as an alternative to the Club site regardless of how cheap it is. It might be fine if you were visiting Totnes for a few hours and moving on but overnight? The bays appear to be no bigger than a standard car park? If they can get Steamer Quay sorted before the end of the year I would be quite happy to spend a week there as there seems lots to do in the Town and surrounding area. I also quite like a serviced pitch for convenience. If the report in the latest magazine is anything to go by I am not sure metered electricity will be in place by the time the site reopens?

    David

  • eurortraveller
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    edited December 2023 #77

    DK, There is indeed much to see and do around the town - but what a help it would be for motorhomers without cars if the Club were to arrange a shuttle bus from the new caravan site on a circular route out to the Dartington shopping village at the Cider Press Centre, and then up to Dartington Hall for the gardens and the  White Hart pub restaurant there.
    You and I have known other sites in other places with shuttle buses, but it would be a first tor this Club.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2023 #78

    But why wouldn’t motorhomers just drive to Dartington? The roads are quite passable - in fact, I'm almost certain it’s on a bus route.

  • Frank Gill
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    edited December 2023 #79

    If this site is being aimed at MH does that mean another rebranding ?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2023 #80

    There's a bus from the Edinburgh club site's reception office (been running for a good few years and used by both MH and caravan users) to the city centre, and one other, possibly two, sites whose names escapes me so it wouldn't be a first by any means.

    The thing is of course is that whoever runs it (it's not the club above I believe) would need for it to be profitable and therefore meeting a demand.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2023 #81

    Frank

    Not sure any of us could cope with thatwink

    Seriously the only reason for my previous comment was that they are going to redevelop the site with all non-awning serviced pitches. That doesn't mean that caravans won't use the site but I wonder if it would put those off that like an awning? I don't know what the mix of caravans v motorhomes was before they applied for planning permission. 

    David

  • Freddy55
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    edited December 2023 #82

    Given its proximity, we would certainly like to stay there. Sadly, it would be a non-starter if there are no awning pitches as we like to put up a canopy.

  • peedee
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    edited December 2023 #83

    I got the impression that over the debate about the Club's plans a great deal of emphasis was put on the aesthetics of the site and the desire to maintain a green open space. Perhaps this had something to do with why there are only non awning pitches or is it just the Club wanting to max out the number of pitches.

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  • peedee
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    edited December 2023 #85

    I am sure it will be popular what ever the price, there are always those willing to pay what is demanded, but like YT if I only want a couple of nights I an not averse to using legal overnight motorhome parking spots. There is room for both types of site as there is with 5 star hotels and B&Bs.

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  • SteveL
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    edited December 2023 #86

    We’ve used Aires like  your photo  YT. However unless there has been some serious upgrading the car park at Longmarsh is not comparable. Again we have on occasion used places like Longmarsh, when we have wanted to visit a particular place and it is all that was available. If a steamer quay had been present just down the road we would have been stopping there despite the premium price. 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2023 #87

    Quite right Steve, the two don't compare and nor does the picture posted by YT. If Longmarsh was anything like YT's picture it would be worthwhile staying there. But Longmarsh is just a car park and you would have no idea, if you stayed there, whether you would get a similar unit parked right next door with hardly any room to open your door. I am pretty sure that Steamer Quay, once refurbished, it will be very popular whatever the price per night.  

    David

  • moulesy
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    edited December 2023 #88

    When we went to Dartmouth for Mrs M's birthday, we stopped of at Totnes for a walk along the river and used that car park - yes, you could certainly park up there in your swish upmarket MH for a couple of nights, but be prepared to share the space with other, shall we be charitable and say "long term", users! surprised

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  • SteveL
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    edited December 2023 #90

    this is superfluous for a MH for 2-5 nights.

    You forgot to add in your opinion YT. Given the number of MH’s that frequent service pitches (including our own on occasion) that clearly isn’t the case for many. They / we certainly aren’t booking them to get a hardstanding pitch, as was often suggested in the past.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2023 #91

    Catch 22. If greenery was added, it would reduce the availability of day time parking bays. If greenery isn’t added, there’s nothing to prevent MHs squashing into adjoining bays.🤷🏻‍♂️

    The boy racers would put me off using Longmarsh.☹️