Cheaper holidays EV charging

KSKAT
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The cheaper way to go touring charge your EV over night for free ?   is this why site fees are going up ? 

 

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  • SteveL
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    edited July 2023 #2

    It’s not free to charge your EV on a club site. I believe the charge is £9 per 24 hours, wether hybrid or full EV.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2023 #3

    And it must be charged via the caravan as that camper was doing.

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2023 #4

    "It’s not free to charge your EV on a club site. I believe the charge is £9 per 24 hours, wether (sic) hybrid or full EV."

    Is the above practice in the photo 'taboo'?.....should only 'proper' changing points be used?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2023 #5

    Not as far as I am aware. See my post above.

    Not many sites have dedicated EV chargers installed as yet.

    See -
    https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/whats-on/caravan-club-news/vehicle-charging-on-uk-club-campsites/

  • SteveL
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    edited July 2023 #6

    Our caravan had an external socket we could have plugged in to. However, if we wanted to charge an EV from our MH we would have to do it as in the photo. Only a very few sites have dedicated EV chargers. Presumably why the Club has its current policy.

    I suppose metering, if it is rolled out to all sites, will mean a separate charge will be unnecessary.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2023 #7

    Hey TW, did you ever get an EV, I remember you mentioned interest way back?

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2023 #8

    It may be complicated by any future Govt sweeteners/tax. We all know in time EV’s will be similarly taxed as fossil fuel vehicles are now.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2023 #9

    Yes, Rocky, although obviously not a tow car. A fabulous driving experience and certainly cheap to run at present. It’s first service was £54😄😄

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2023 #10

    £54?😱. Not a Tow car-got it. Thanks, I’ll quit the OT now👍🏻.

  • GTrimmer
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    edited July 2023 #11

    Interesting that this topic is posted under 'making touring holidays cheaper' .

    I've long held the view that the vast majority of EV users have followed that route simply to save money,,and for them 'saving the planet is of minor importance if of any relevance at all.

    The sooner they pay a sensible share of car tax the better.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited July 2023 #12

    People will buy EV's for all sorts of reasons including wanting to be greener. I think difficult argument to put forward that owners are getting a better deal than those that stay with ICE cars. I have just taken delivery of a Kia Niro Hybrid. Had I wanted I could for £5000 more gone for the plug in Hybrid or for an extra £10000 I could have had a full EV so quite where saving money comes in is a bit difficult to establish. OK as TW say servicing is cheaper and I think only every two years, at least on some models. So there is a saving there. Then there is the cost of charging. My son has an arrangement with Octopus Energy (I am sure there are other schemes?) whereby he charges for 4 hours overnight at, I think, 12p per Kwh which is enough to keep the battery topped up for normal use. But on the other hand if you go for a commercial charge its much more so I would question, taking all things considered, whether the ownership of an EV is much cheaper, although that will depend on how much you use it. I think the Government has already put in place the adding on of VED to EV's from a certain date? Why they want to fall back on old technology I don't know. Far better to introduce road pricing which would be a much fairer way.

    David

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2023 #13

    My main reason for buying an EV was to hedge my bets when petrol and diesel were becoming scarce around 15-18 months ago. I went into it fully expecting that road fund licensing would apply before long, and I was right. I also anticipate the Govt will find a way to impose a levy on the electricity used to charge it. Meanwhile, the cost savings are a bonus helping to offset the cost of buying the ‘greener’ car.

    I guess the OP posted in the making things cheaper thread because he mistakenly believed the car was being charged free. A myth I think we have dispelled.

     

  • Amesford
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    edited July 2023 #14

    We will be taking our new PHEV towing for the first time tomorrow but a bit perplexed that we will need to cough up £9  to charge our car which does 38 miles per charge but an EV can get around a 100 miles 

  • Oscarmax
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    edited July 2023 #15

    The CMC dedicated EV charger are just over 60 pence kWh, but you have to book them in 10kWh blocks for some strange reason, £6.00 for 10kWh/£12.00 for 20kWh.

    We used to used commercial charging points but they have become financially unviable. We just press the charge button and use the excess and regenerative energy, uses a couple of extra litres of fuel @£1.42 just under £3.00 to fully charge up the battery.

  • Wherenext
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    edited July 2023 #16

    Far better to introduce road pricing which would be a much fairer way.

    My view entirely David.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2023 #18

     .... & over to Mr Chocolate Trees ..... 😉😉😉

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2023 #20

    Emperors new clothes?, I reckon they said that when ICE was new in the 1800’s & the Horse drawn carriage drivers were resisters. Today it’s for planet survival. It will happen because there’s no alternative.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2023 #21

    but as per Vulcan's/The Daily Mail's article, lithium batteries are far from the whole answer.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2023 #22

    That’ll be Viscount (Matt) Ridley then? 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2023 #23

    There’s problem solving going on a daily basis-LiFePO4 batteries are the new normal ED. Remember we’ve perfected the ICE over around 150yrs & it is still ongoing, just not quick enough. Folk can say what they like but you can’t vote for mass extinction & the world knows that.

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2023 #25

    That’s the perfect answer. Electrification will only help the young going forward which is as it should be. The future is for those yet to live their lives, it looks promising too👍🏻

  • RowenaBCAMC
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    edited July 2023 #26

    Hi everyone, As already mentioned by members on this discussion, Hybrid cars and Electric cars are charged a rate of £9 per charge (this is worked out on the assumption a car is plugged in overnight, via your outfit using a mode 2 cable drawing a maximum of 2.3kw, which is the same regardless of the car type).

    More info on electric charging can be found on the FAQs: Electric Vehicle Charging

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited July 2023 #27

    Andrew Ditton has just published his latest YouTube video of a trip from just north of London to Moffat in Scotland in his EV towing a caravan. As he points out he is not trying to say towing with an EV is for everyone but he hopes his video helps those who are thinking of going down the EV route.

    David

  • ChocolateTrees
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    edited July 2023 #29

    My reason for getting an EV was green first, nerdy second and cost savings third, though for me the savings are significant and real.

    As folks here will know, my Polestar is a company car, and the tax breaks that the government offer mean it is a cheap way of paying for the pleasure of having a new car on the drive for the length of the lease. 

    Charging from home overnight accounts for most of my electricity usage in the car (as opposed to public charging). In the last month I have used about 450kWh of overnight electricity at 9.5p per kWh. I.e. less than £45. Thats enough for over 1500 miles of driving. 

    Last week we were away in the caravan and spent a total of about £190 on public charging for almost exactly 700 miles of holiday, including 320 miles of towing (180 miles each way). Thats an average of about 27p per mile, or an equivalent of about 24mpg at £1.45 a litre of petrol or diesel. I would have been very happy with that number in the XC90. 

    But if you include the previous months driving, you end up with an average of 66mpg at £1.45 a litre. And that’s averaging just that one month…

     

    Road pricing is indeed a much more sensible solution, and I hope it is adopted one day. 

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