Arrival time - again
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You're right there TW and also we mustn't forget that this is the UK and this thread is in the UK sites section so no comparison whatsoever to "over there", hopefully the new guidelines will sort those mistaken posts
Last Friday I had several early arrivals for the long weekend with no place to go on site until others departed. I managed to park them all off the road and even shared my bacon sarnie lunch with one happy camper. In return when I was walking the site later I was given a very tasty barbequed sausage in a bun and we had the best chat about our hobby. That's what it's all about
JK
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I struggle with that AD, euphemisms have been in play for centuries they are a staple of the English language worldwide. There is nothing to dislike🤷🏻♂️. Overthere, overhere they are in play constantly. I doubt CAMC will outlaw the use of certain words other than words we all view as offensive. I can(with hand on heart) say that CAMC will not be entering 1984 territory without garnering even more attacks. There are constant jibes re the amount of rules & regulations already from many folk.
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Sounds great...arrive early and instead of being sent packing (the party line?) we might get 'parked up' somewhere handy and then fed a cooked breakfast🍳 That's certainly what it's all about 👍
what site is this? Need to get booking and the 'all inclusive' service would soften the usual Club prices...thanks for the tip.
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Good to see you've kept your points scoreboard while you've been away BB
. Almost made us chuckle.JK
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Well JK, something has to raise the spirits after seeing a Club Site invoice😉, and I'm afraid it's 'others' who have the scoreboards and black books....
I haven't been 'away', merely not posting, just keeping a whether eye on you all. It's been an interesting view for the past few months.
I can see how hard it is for you to raise a smile, so apologies if I've upset you by logging a 'mistaken post' somewhere....
BTW, I like my bacon on the medium/well done side🥪, do I need to ring ahead?
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I know you’ve been around, BB. It was quite plain to see😂
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😂 I don’t know how I will survive if the new T&C’s ask folks not to post “transmarine” information in the UK only section. I’d be forced to do my own thinking,🤔 and that might be bad for me🤭
Club arrivals/departures no longer suit us, but we manage ok elsewhere. In the UK of course.
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Crispy bacon, runny egg and fried mushrooms with a splash of HP sauce, say around a tenner to you. Don't forget I'll need 21 days notice of a cancellation
You've not upset me at all BB, I'm not the community manager.
JK
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Only problem i have found with this is ,we went to a club site where we had to leave at the latest 11am ,if we had been going to another site, as we tend to do ,and the arrival time was 1pm .the reason we would be arriving early ,if the site was less then two hours away , would be due to the clubs instance we left at 11am
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Ah, Sister Boniface strikes again...😉
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Are there any club sites that have an 11 departure time?
Even if there are , and it's less than a two hour drive (from anywhere) to a club site it's still your responsibility to arrive after 1pm. I don't think personally anyone can use that as an excuse for arriving early. In fact there are none in my book.
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You're supposed to go and park in a laybye somewhere and stop being a menace! 🤷🏻♂️
the fact that you've probably paid £45-£50 for the privilege doesn't entitle you to enjoy 'joined up' touring...sorry, computer says 'no'.
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JK said " If you have a seasonal pitch on our sites there is no time constraint at all."
So just to clarify, are you saying that a seasonal pitch holder can remove his caravan from site and return it to site before the stipulated arrival time?
If so why, as I always thought the main reason for this rule was the high chance of meeting an outgoing unit on narrow lanes?
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So if the site is less then 2 hours away, and you cannot find any where safety to park up ,it is your fault .
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No difference to a motorhome going out or returning to site after being out.
JK
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Not my fault, but the person arriving early. That person is the driver, that person has agreed to the T&C, that person received an email saying the arrival time (so why they think it doesn't apply to them is beyond me), that person has planned the route so they are responsible not the club.
And in all my towing days there has always been somewhere to park up. Anyway if they chance arriving early they may be asked to go away and find somewhere. Personally that is the correct approach
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Think about it logically Mikey….. you could in fact meet another outfit leaving the site at any time of the day, Motorhomes come and go daily throughout the day, there’s no Club rule saying they can’t, merely to let new arrivals in. Same with caravans, you could technically take your van off site if you wanted to for a day, although it’s much less likely.
I couldn’t care less really, quite happy to let staff manage their sites as they think best. It’s only the uptight rules must be laid down in tablets of stone types that get their touring trousers in a twist, most folks are happily just getting on with enjoying themselves. Bit of a roundabout really, the more rules and regulations you have, the more anyone predisposed to comment will actually comment.
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Sorry to disagree JK but i do think comparisons with other sites and organisations whether elsewhere in Europe or in the uk are frequently relevant to the discussion. I do agree that there are a few who will compare to mainland Europe whatever the thread and whether relevant or not and appear to believe that over there = good and uk = bad. But to try and keep threads in a straight jacket is, imo, neither possible or realistic. I note that forward from your post are several comments about bacon sandwiches. Surely those type of comments would also need to be prohibited also. To me a thread is a bit like a conversation, so it will wander a bit.
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Happy to have the CM remove any reference to bacon sarnies but the point was that JK hadn't forced folk to 'go elsewhere' merely to accommodate them and share his lunch....
"I managed to park them all off the road and even shared my bacon sarnie lunch with one happy camper. In return when I was walking the site later I was given a very tasty barbequed sausage in a bun and we had the best chat about our hobby. That's what it's all about"
while I'm happy to say there's a bit of leg pulling here, the message from the club is definitely don't turn up early, you WILL be turned away...except at some sites where something far more sociable might happen.
to me, this 'different interpretation of the rules' was worth highlighting.
BTW, it's one I would more likely expect of a members club than the party line.
I also happen to agree with you (and disagree with JK) re comparison postings.. certainly where 'process' is involved...
posts like 'this happens at this site and it works really well' just can't be simply dismissed out of hand due to location, weather, language or currency etc...
Each of these posts may have some real value with discussion and don't need to be confined to the bin 'just because.....'
post about to be removed, no doubt🤷🏻♂️
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I like to read a bit of debate, but if it’s anything to do with Club Site rules, especially around arrival/ departure times, other than CCC sites, there’s nothing similar in comparison, either in UK or overseas.
They simply are what they have morphed into, partly because (according to the Club) it’s what Members asked for, and possibly because of UK workplace legislation and H&S legislation, the Club operates a tight ship to keep costs down while still trying to maintain a decent standard of service. Pressure on sites has been intense these last few years, primarily COVID but also because of a rise in numbers touring putting pressure on certain aspects. The Club’s answer to deliver a service is what we have now, and for the most part, those who use Club Sites will go along with it. Those who it doesn’t suit will look elsewhere, either in UK or overseas.
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Last time we visited Exeter Racecourse, there was a note on the reception door for us, telling us to find a pitch and call into reception next morning, so it does still happen, but to qualify this, we did have a phone call while enroute asking us if this was ok. Couple of years ago. It’s a one couple site, so reception closes early, but we thought it fine, staff doing what’s best for the customer.
I don’t have any gripe whatsoever with things like this, but I would be upset if another Member questioned why, and that’s the point I was trying to make. Club staff will do their utmost to help out customers as much as they can in most instances, but then risk being damned by busy body Members who want to stir the pudding without knowing all the facts behind a staff decision made. 🤷♀️
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Other non club camping sites that we have used in the UK have also had stipulated earliest arrival times. We have abided by those, so I’ve no idea what would have happened if we turned up early. However, we are not talking here about someone turning up on spec and trying to secure a pitch. We are talking about a member of a club who has signed up to the T&C’s, made a booking where the earliest arrival time has been clearly stated along with the fact you may be turned away, then totally ignored it and turned up early. That IMO is unacceptable.
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I quite agree but then there is really no need for strict arrival times in that case. In my experience, especially mid week, many people leaving for home invariably leave between 9.00 and 10.00am. If roads aren't a problem and pitches are available, why does the Club maintain strict arrival times producing the mad rush at opening time.
Arriving in dribs and drabs seems to work elsewhere.
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"You are correct about the club sites having a unique approach to customer service. In all my travels over the last 40 years I have never encountered any other sites operating in a similar fashion and that's not praise. "
well you have led a very sheltered life, this approach is not unique to CAMC i have been to sites here and overthere, oh!so sorry Mainland EU, that operate a similar approach, and generally it is dependant upon the access to the site, some site entrances are virtually on a main "A" road so units arriving early can cause traffic congestion as they back up to the main road, so arriving early is not good
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as i think i have said before on here the CAMC business model for manageing sites is somewhat different to others e.g. Wardens have to multi task e.g. cleaning the facilities block and manning reception being 2 of the main tasks i would assume, and ensuring your pitch and surrounding area is neat and tidy for your impending arrival.
however the business model seems to have worked for many years, to mimick what others are doing would no doubt mean an increase in staffing levels, and guess what an increase in pitch fees, you cant have your cake and eat it
"I am one of those frequently told to go elsewhere if I don't like it and more than happy to do so"
so do so and dont keep carping on about sites you say you never use, site rules and regulations, wardens not doing what you think is the acceptable level of customer service you expect
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Good post
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