Smart Metering Trial
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Probably Woodovis Moulesy, it’s in the ACSI scheme.
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Don’t forget dynamic pricing can mean prices are constantly changing.
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I think folk have used that thread title quite flexibly, David (don't suppose you'll have looked at it though). I suggest DD names it, since it's obviously an excellent site - if it's not "small" it can just be added to this thread - helping fellow members is one of the great strengths of this forum isn't it?
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wrong, for the last few years i have stayed at the Woodovis site for the month of September, it has one of my must haves "heated indoor swimming pool" and quite often during September i have the pool to myself, it does not have
"The lovely facilities include large individual bathrooms, "
facilities are very good but probably not up to CAMC , and are probably overworked when the site is full, but never been when the site is full
"The site is truly mixed. Tiny tents, with cars, vans large and small, and motor bikes to large c/vans and MH's. Even a German estate car with a Thule roof tent."
could be the CCC just outside Tavistock ?
p.s. Woodovis is now almost self sufficient for electricity, they have installed their own solar farm together with batteries etc, the swimming pool has always been supplied from solar energy
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I have some sympathy with his position it is a case i think of "what is good for the goose is not necessarily good for the gander" and i have taken some stick for recommending what others consider to be naff sites, but my take right now with an increase in sight fees, fully metered sites that could end up looking like a solar farm if lots of folk opt for portable solar panels instead of using the EHU, is just go for what suits you, I am even considering using sites much closer to home, one popped up today on the forum 45 mins from home, so i spend £5 on diesel instead of £50 and have a cracking time, however, it probaly would not suit some on here, will wait for a response from you know who.
my only reservation is that it is quite close to Chichester caravans and i might come home £20k lighter with a new van in tow
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Just taken a look, and, yes, the current prices are lower.
But they don’t include electricity, which will be metered.
Knowing my luck, if we cancel and rebook on the new system, the electricity costs will be more than the initial savings 😱.0 -
You're correct they don't include electric but they are significantly cheaper than the option they gave you without electric, check your original booking and make sure there's not been a mistake it doesn't seem right with this club prices seem to always go up not down.
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not sure peedee if your £250 120w solar panel is actually bolted onto your MH or is stand-alone but do you think this statement is pie in the sky or a distinct possibility
" fully metered sites that could end up looking like a solar farm if lots of folk opt for portable solar panels instead of using the EHU"
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So if I have done my sums, and recall the amounts, correctly the 'break even point' for P's stay is about 6.7 KwH per day?
Under that one would save money by doing the trial, over that and it would be cheaper not to if you have a choice. Doesn't sound a lot to me? Is it from those that have measured these things?
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This is something many members have been asking for and we’re really pleased to be able to trial it this year!
In my recent stays at CAMC sites I have not spoken to any of the "club" members who were aware of this trial and when informed responded with looks of incredulity ! I don't believe that vast numbers of members were inundating the HQ with requests for a metered system although I would agree a small minority would see a benefit. This seems just another chapter in the never ending saga of the "Dash for Cash" business strategy of late as seen with the "new improved deposit booking system" followed by the dynamic prices structure which were again allegedly changes ask for by members? As for the DPS which was said to benefit early booking I have checked a few sites lately and the May 23 and May 24 prices are exactly the same so I can't see any benefit to be had.
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I don’t really care which site DD isn’t naming, in fact it’s a bonus that it’s actually in the UK, as we usually have to endure endless tales of overseas references in UK sites threads, so it could actually be seen as a plus🤣, and at least there won’t be endless Deleted User off topic posts and ultimately the whole thread closed, so it’s a win win and I am grateful for DD’s contribution, even if it is a mystery.
Rufs, free standing solar panels were all the rage at one bit, nothing new. 😁
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sure peedee will dispute, this, have no way of monitoring my usage, however, and at risk of getting this post removed, i can say that overthere 7kwH per day was about our usage, but like the business model, the weather is also a hugely contributing factor, will not expand in fear of getting sent to the sin bin
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"Rufs, free standing solar panels were all the rage at one bit, nothing new"
yes i know but if folk now have no option to but use a metered pitch many might opt for something that was nice to have but was too expensive, if they see it as a cheaper option
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fully metered sites that could end up looking like a solar farm if lots of folk opt for portable solar panels instead of using the EHU"
Rufs, I don't see it this way. It doesn't happen on the rally field where this no EHU at all, so why should it happen on a site which provides EHU even if metered. Some will just pay for what ever they use, some like me with the ability to go off grid with fixed solar panels on the roof on a short stay won't even bother hooking up, even in the winter. Motorhomes top up their leisure battery when on the move from one site to another or when they go off site for the day so may not even bother with panels. No doubt there will be some who will use portable panels but certainly not the majority.
FYI although I have a large motorhome, it is well insulated and retains it's heat well once warmed up and in use. My consumption using gas for heating and cooking with just a full sized fridge running on electric, boiling a travel kettle and keeping the battery topped up is typically 4Kwh a day. It used to amount to under £1 per day at the old metered rates!
peedee
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tks pedee, will bow to your experience of living off grid, but with all due respect i think you are a bit biased towards MH's, I think caravanners will have a different experience, e.g. they cant just go out for the day to top up their batteries, and as i alluded to earlier if they have to use e.g. motor movers to get on pitch and motor movers to get off pitch this will put a big strain on the onboard leisure battery, and a big strain on solar panels to top it up, but i guess it is going to be a case of suck it and see, and who is willing to pay for metered lecce, lwho knows i might have unbolted my tow bar before all this kicks off, hope you are enjoying your trip.
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I guess back in the day when we had to manouvre onto the pitch using the towing vehicle or pushing using some considerable energy 2=3 days was possible, and i for one saw motor movers as a luxury i could not afford, today it is a luxury i would rather not do without , and some sites today ( are very tight with manouvre space) , so, it depends just how much you use your mover to get on pitch as to how much power is drained from the battery, and dont forget, if you use the mover to get it on pitch you will probably need the mover to get it off pitch. Not sure if you have a mover but my mover will not operate if the battery is less than 11.5 volts, 2-3 days off grid + mover use i am sure my battery will be well below 11.5v. I guess if you are on a pitch with EHU you could connect up for a short period and pay whatever to re-charge your battery, there are always options
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Back in the day we had a solar panel and two leisure batteries. We would alternate between the batteries and have the opportunity to also charge up whilst driving between sites whilst on our tours. We only needed to stay on sites about every fourth night, primarily to bail out the black water and top up fresh water. The fact that electricity was included meant an opportunity to give both batteries a good tonic charge. It worked for us and we did this for many years on the same batteries which lasted the life of our ownership. Today our more sophisticated system seems to care for itself far better but we still use the occasional night for the obvious needs.
Now until we know the outcome of these trials and the subsequent costings will we know if it will be advantageous to us in any respect to our way of touring. Of course other touring behaviours will be different,0 -
They still are TDA, the new Bifacial freestanding SP’s are superb👍🏻
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