Smart Metering Trial
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I'm in favour of getting metered EHU points.
How are EV charging points funded in car parks, services, supermarkets etc? The cost of the location, installation and maintenance of the EV point must be recovered by charging more per unit otherwise why would any business provide the charging point. ? Do EV charging point provider's have to let you know how much they pay per unit? Wouldn't that be commercially sensitive information?
Doesn't it follow then that the site EHU metered hookup must be able to charge more than CAMC pay for it to cover installation and on going service and maintenance costs OR they have to recover those costs by not reducing that metered pitch fee?
Am I missing something?
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Metering seems an expensive way of monitoring and charging for the electricity used. When abroad we find 6 amp adequate (4 is not sufficient) Why not charge a standard price for 6 amp. Anyone wanting more could pay for a new trip switch for either 10 amp or 13 amp. Switches could easily be changed by the warden, as happens on many continental sites ,
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Depends where you are abroad? In Germany the majority of sites I have used have 16 amp availability but also many sites also have metering. Lowering the ampage available might be fine in the summer months but would not, I reckon, suit the majority at other times of year. I am also not convinced the Club would be wanting its site managers swapping electrical components in a site bollard due to H&S concerns? It could be done by having sophisticated switching systems in reception but that would take up more staff time and probably be as expensive as fitting a metering system. Unless you are going to keep the current free for all you have to go to metering which is becoming more common place as even CL's go that way.
David
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With plug-in trips being so easy to change surely there will be people who would carry a high capacity trip to use to replace the low capacity that they have been issued?
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"Not likely to be club members"
This to me is judgemental and " I don't know what I'm talking about territory".
I've had a prepayment meter for years, also living in rented accommodation and have been a club member for 12 years. Plenty who own their own homes have them too and aren't living in poverty. Sometimes it's a choice to have one installed sometimes it isn't because of debt. I bet there's plenty of members who have prepayment meters you could be pitched next to one now. Club members can come from all walks of life from people on high salaries with an expensive motorhome to the working man on minimum wage who does caravaning for a cheap holiday.
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I don’t disagree with this, although I would rather see off grid pitches. However given many do not experience anything but 16 amp plug in I think a lot of people would be tripping the fuse on a regular basis. Presumably this would have to be re set by the warden. And in the middle of the night??
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We “tripped out” at Hexham Racecourse site, one evening, not realising it was 10amp.
Our mistake.The warden had already left the site, so we just plugged into the next bollard and had a word with him the next morning.
He said it happens all the time!
It’s very easily done when you’re used to having 16 amp.
We made sure we didn’t do it again, though.😱.0 -
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Yes, it's the same price that they buy it at
JK
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If that's the case why don't they have the decency of telling members what the rate is, or are they too ashamed to own up to the fact that they have taken their eye off the ball and missed out on getting a decent rate from their electricity supplier?
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Whilst I would agree the Club should be up front about how much they will charge per Kwh, inevitably the price will be higher than we get charged for our domestic prices because they are currently subsidised. That does not apply to commercial organisations as I understand it. I am pretty certain the club will hunt out the best deals they can but as I say it's likely to be more that domestic rates regardless of how good the deal is?
David
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But surly, as a commercial organisation buying in bulk, they should be able to negotiate a substantial discount which domestic customers are unable to do.
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Average price. So that means it could be more or less then.
JK
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We're a business customer, and have just started a contract with a new supplier. While it's true the price of kWh has risen, the real shocker is the increased daily standing charge.
And, bye the bye, when the new company realised we were a farm they raised the price. Farms, apparantley are a risk. Presumably at risk of not paying!
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If DD's figures apply to the Club I make that about 50% more than I am paying at home so it would seem that around 50p per Kwh will be charged? I don't know how useful it is to compare average home consumption with that of a caravan or motorhome but it seems in April I used and average of 8/9 Kwh's per day and that doesn't include heating at home. If that sort of consumption was mirrored on a campsite we are looking at costs of £4/5 a night with the use of electric heating. The true test won't be established until any of us use a Club site with a metered supply, something for us all to look forward to
David
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Hi everyone,
The kWh charge to our members and guests will reflect the same costs that the Club is paying, with no additional charges other than VAT at 5%. The Club, as an organisation, does not benefit from any domestic energy pricing cap protections, and as such needs to secure its energy based on business rates. In general terms, these prices are agreed and contracted for periods of 6 months covering 1st April to 30th September and 1st October to 31st March.
Therefore, between 17th May 2023 & 30th September 2023 the kWh charge will be 42p and between 1st October 2023 & 31st March 2024 will be 44.1p (including VAT at 5%).
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Thank you for revealing the information!
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