Smart Metering Trial
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I've used the Hillhead pool on previous visits, it was too warm for me, hope they've turned it down a bit since then. Hillhead has become too expensive generally so we're opting for other Devon places, nice CLs a bit further south on the coast and C&Cc offerings.
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I'm not disputing that at all. Good you can get a refund too. My point is that will folks think corresponding £ reduction is equivalent to electric use.
So put on a fiver for a few days and find they've no idea on their background consumption and find its gone far quicker than they expected.
I have no idea on our cost consumption in doors, but can work it out by a smart meter should I feel the need. But even then wouldn't know how much to expect for our motorhome use without topping up in stages and taking notes.
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I suppose I would load about £5 a day initially, especially if it was easy enough to get the unused credited back to me. I suspect £5 a day is probably far too much outside of the winter months. As you learn what your average usage is on subsequent stays you could reduce or increase accordingly. Hopefully the software used will detail usage by day/hour rather than just the duration of the stay.
David
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I think that's the idea DK. The app will your be account as well as acting as a smart meter. No idea of any other details but we all have to remember that this is a trial.
JK
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The pools at Hillhead and Looe are classed as leisure pools not swimming pools so they are heated to 29 degrees. Leisure pools are the same depth for the whole length which differ from a swimming pool that has a deep and shallow ends.
JK
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I found the temperature at Seacroft just perfect, even on a hot day in August.
But back to the trail, It's just a trial (as JK says) and not the end product that maybe will be rolled out everywhere. Hopefully it will highlight where things work well and what could be improved. Will the app work well and will it and the system be reliable? Will it work well for MHs? Will it cause problems for the wardens?
All sorts of things but the most important one might be will people come to the site to use it? It could either attract or detract. If occupancy is up then great, if occupancy is affected downwards then the club won't want to lose income. If no change (as would be if I wanted to use that site) then why bother with all the expense with a network rollout?
Will people be put off metering if their power fails at some point as they haven't put enough money and think it's not worth the effort? I assume there will be some way of getting feedback from those actually using the system on site?
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Will people be put off metering if their power fails at some point as they haven't put enough money and think it's not worth the effort? I assume there will be some way of getting feedback from those actually using the system on site?
Hopefully the system will be able to alert you when your account is getting low, either by text or email if a browser based system, or an alert if it is indeed an App.
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Yes, but a very new experience for many. And you do need to know what the coast of the electricity is. I think this latter may cause a few issues. Judging from comments on here when ever metering has been discussed quite a few don’t understand that domestic and commercial rates are different. I know that the info from the OP indicates a higher cost than domestic, but we know lots of members don’t read the info they get.
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"….but we know lots of members don’t read the info they get."
I'm afraid that becomes their problem to deal with. No organisation can be responsible for those who can’t be bothered to familiarise themselves with the info supplied.
What is the problem really? You bung in an amount of money and top it up if it’s not enough, or claim a refund if it’s too much. 🤷🏻♂️
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I wondered what was going on Tinster so I checked page7, I’ve got it now, you did too😊👍🏻
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I know that in Spain we use around 4kwH per day, that's the fridge on electric an electric kettle, charger is on but if sunny it could go off and the solar would keep the battery charged. No hot water or heating on electric. TV, phones and tablet charged on the 12v.
I guess in the UK it will be more if the weather isn't sunny or we had to have heating and hot water on.
In the MH we would use gas for the water and heating as its a refillable underslung tank but the caravan is bottles so expensive.
As long as you know the cost per KwH it wouldn't be hard to work it out.
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I expect the people will be back to queueing up at the shower block , unless they start charging for showers, and washing their dishes at the block instead of racking up the units on the bollard. The last couple of years it has been stated that the electricity cost per night was averaged at £4, now include the latest rises and they reckon the average is now £3 a night.
I just see it as another backdoor price rise
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Presumably if the electricity is metered you can just plug it in with no extra charge. Those with chargeable hybrids, depending on the rate charged, are likely to benefit. The £9 daily charge did seem excessively high given the capacity of the battery.
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I suppose initially that members not familiar with metering could react rather like many did when domestic electricity prices went through the roof. I think I would rather use my own facilities, even if it does cost a bit more, than having go to the site facilities. As I have said before everyone is concentrating on the £1 a night reduction but conveniently forgetting that later in the year the site price reduction is much bigger. I somehow imagine the pitch price reductions are not set in stone and could change as more information becomes available?
David
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It would indeed DD.
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David....I would think that the months when the reduction is only £1 or £2 are also the months when sites are busiest, so more people will be getting only small reductions.
Those of us who are aware of what we use have said that £1 will go nowhere near covering even very modest use as in fridge and charger, never mind any HW or cooking, but without knowing the unit price, as DD has said, we are totally in the dark as to how bad the extra cost might be.
This information needs to be provided so people can make an informed choice.
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Totally agree DD. We have a whole page of blurb about the trial but nothing on cost, other than they are going to be higher than domestic ones. Given that the trial is due to start shortly there doesn’t seem to be a good reason for this, other than that it is likely to be unpalatably high.
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I think it is going to be a personal decision for most folks about how useful, cost effective using metered electric bollards is going to be. A lot will depend on your outfit, your time spent on site, and of course personal preferences around how you tour.
If you like Club Sites, and it’s your first choice, then at the very least it might make more folks think a bit more around how much energy they use, which is no bad thing from a green perspective.
If you happily and comfortably tour off grid for either the whole or part of your holiday, I don’t think the discounts offered are enough, possibly they might have been if they had been at one of the non facility Sites still offering a one basic price visit, but these are no more.
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You will be even more in pocket using a no hook up CL or Britstop DD👍
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I have just emailed the Club to ask what the Kwh price will be on the two sites. I have suggested its not very transparent only to find out the cost once you have booked. Will let you know when I get a response.
David
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DD, your quoted figures of 29 to 32 pence per kwh are somewhat off the mark
JK
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