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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #32

    More good stuff Micky boy👍🏻. On one of your other update posts I found a piece about a charity called Mossy Earth about rewilding in Scotland I was very impressed with their ethic & works so I signed up(monetarily) not as a volunteer in Scotland, so thanks for that😊

  • mickysf
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    edited December 2022 #33

    Never heard of this, makes for fabulous reading. Rewilding and reintroduction projects across the Country and beyond. We have a charity list for every new year a very worthy addition having read all about Mossy Earth. Thanks R2bs 

    https://mossy.earth/projects

  • mickysf
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    edited December 2022 #34

    Some very interesting rewilding and reintroduction initiatives are currently taking place in Dorset. See below

    https://www.westdorsetwilding.org


    This is happening close to this club site. Worthy of exploring and support me thinks!

     
    https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/club-sites/england/southern-england/dorset/bridport-bingham-grange-club-campsite/

     

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #35

    Martens have been spotted & fimed in Dalby Forest👍🏻

  • mickysf
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    edited December 2022 #36

    That’s great news R2Bs. Last I heard was that back in 2017 there was possible evidence of martens in Dalby. 

    https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/heritage-and-retro/heritage/rewilding-projects-could-see-eagles-elk-wolves-and-lynx-return-yorkshire-dales-2966101

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #37

    I’ve seen the vids👍🏻. They have a programme to help them stay. I get updates from the ForComm.

  • mickysf
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    edited December 2022 #38

    That’s excellent! The reintroduced beavers are also doing fine. Lynx next?😉

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #39

    Considering they are secretive I reckon they’d control Rabbits in their areas👍🏻

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2023 #41
  • nelliethehooker
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    edited February 2023 #42

    Great news of the Pine Martens being spotted in Grizedale Forest. Hopefully that will help to reduce the Grey Squirrel population and help the Red squirrels multiply.

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2023 #43

    Excellent news as featured on the recent Channel 5 Secret Life of the Forest.

    More info. here

    https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/heritage-and-retro/heritage/trail-yorkshires-only-wild-beavers-who-could-help-prevent-towns-flooding-1995719

    Although access to the beaver habitat is restricted the beauty of the Cropton and Dalby Forests are unquestionable in my opinion. Lots of rewilding taking place particularly at the former on what was once a shooting estate. Good to see the removal of non native trees taking place with these being replaced with native trees and other flora. Both Cropton and Dalby are close to The Howard CaMC site and, indeed, you can walk to Cropton from the site itself. Well worth a visit to both the site and these forests.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited February 2023 #44

    Following on from your beaver post, micky, did you see this from Loch Lomond, where an offer is believed to have killed two beaver kits from the introduced family?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-64666850

     

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2023 #45

    No, Nellie, I didn’t. Sounds very much like natural predation for territorial reasons, sad though it is, such behaviour appears everywhere as part and parcel of the natural world. Let’s hope for better outcomes here and elsewhere in the coming years.

  • Fisherman
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    edited February 2023 #46

    More ill conceived ideas by the armchair warriors. Just like the wildcats. If we believe the hype birds and small mammals are in terminal decline. What does releasing more killers do.

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2023 #47

    Not sure if you are aware fish but beavers are predominantly herbivorous! Beware the killer veggies!😉

  • Fisherman
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    edited February 2023 #48

    Fully aware. It is a bit odd though that  here where we do some control of predators we have a healthy population of Large birds ie Kites and Buzzards, Curlews and Lapwings on the open tops and songbirds everywhere. Not noticed the declines ( apart from Summer African migrants) some of the organisations talk about. But then they have their own agendas.

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2023 #49

    That’s good then you will be aware that it may be down to area and the activities in them. For instance 40+ million non-native pheasants are released into the wild annually in the UK. Where this happens it has a detrimental effect on some wildlife populations, reptiles in particularly, but also insects which many birds and other creatures depend upon. This huge release  doesn’t happen everywhere but concentrated in some areas including some rare habitats and arable land. 

  • Fisherman
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    edited February 2023 #50

    Not into the pheasant shooting brigade, but most seem to be city gents who come for the day. No interest in the countryside, the environment or anything but money. Probably the same ones who scatter lead shot everywhere. Probably would not know a Robin from a Kite, but hey "networking"

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2023 #51

    Like you fish, I’ve no interest in them either but unfortunately some ‘country folk’ profit from this activity and promote it. Something should be done, it continues year after year, it  should not be swept under the carpet and ignored as it is damaging the environment and habitats within. I have no issue with sensible and properly regulated control of some predators where their numbers cause issues to livestock, wildlife recovery or reintroductions but I do object to this being done in inhumane ways by humans dressed for the occasion for what they call sport. Afterall, we have caused much of the imbalance and we need to address it.

  • Fisherman
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    edited February 2023 #52

    By golly we seem to agree on something. However the one issue mindless arm chair environmentalists ( in awe to some so called personalities) are the main problem. Badgers with  their diseases the most protected animal in the UK. The place is over run with them and costing millions in TB compensation annually. The drive for reintroductions when the landscape has changed so much since they became extinct, for whatever  reason. The grant chasing tree planting schemes, not for the environment but profit. And the list goes on.

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2023 #53

    I don’t think anyone is suggesting reintroducing anything into a sterile environment man made environments. More to do with repair to habitats and the reintroduction of those creatures which truly belong there. Needs careful thought and management but it can be done as so many projects are now proving. Just needs things doing on a greater scale and with the correct ecosystem at the fore of developments and a positive attitude towards nature. 

  • Fisherman
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    edited February 2023 #55

    Ask the rich townies who shoot pheasants.

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2023 #56

    Fish, you seem to have but three strings to your bow. Townies, Sitka spruce and arm chair environmentalists. There is far more to ‘it’ and it’s far more complex than that. I’d hope we are allowed to discuss things in a more positive and creative manner here and suggest places to visit and things we can do to help. Those three strings of yours help little and result in much off target discussion. Many of us love nature and our trips out in our units allow us to explore and wonder at the nature around us. Many of us see the bigger picture and appreciate that helping nature is a significant need for future generations, some of us will be active in promoting and assisting this. We love it!

  • Fisherman
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    edited February 2023 #57

    Some of us actually do things. Hedge planting, native tree planting, small ponds, all on my land done quietly, no grants, no hype. None of the theory stuff.

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2023 #58

    That’s brilliant what you do fish, tiny thought it is, keep at it. it’s also fantastic that others are able to support, contribute and further the wider projects and that much bigger picture. Like you, I’m also not a great one for uncorroborated theories and projects driven by profit alone but where proven possible and supported by scientific evidence the efforts of many are having a positive effect on this wonderful patchwork of nature, habitats and environments right across the UK. It’s here right now, supported by many and is wonderful, rewarding and essential work that provides much for all our wildlife including us humans, it will benefit all!

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2023 #59

    Didn't know which post to enter this in but I think that the subject matter is important.

    Came across this story on the Loch Garten Osprey web site. Reintroduction plans to bring Ospreys to Ireland.

    https://www.independent.ie/news/environment/look-whos-swooping-in-after-250-years-osprey-chicks-to-be-released-here-in-summer-42410208.html

     

  • ABM
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    edited March 2023 #60

     Would be wonderful to have another base for my favourite birds to holiday in  !!

    Brian

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2023 #61

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07d1zw0

    That was four years ago. Prior to this only an odd wandering bird has been spotted in the UK. This spring, however, dozens of these iconic birds are now reported gracing our skies. What is most pleasing is that a high percentage are first time and returning migrants. These are now turning up in places as far afield as Lincolnshire and Yorkshire. Maybe some will nest up here in the very near future. Well done to all those who have assisted this reintroduction.